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  • E Ed Gadziemski

    Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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    So?


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    • E Ed Gadziemski

      Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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      BoneSoft
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      Yeah, but let's not loose track of what's important... What color is Joe's dog?


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      • E Ed Gadziemski

        Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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        Ooo ooo! Do me next!


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        • E Ed Gadziemski

          Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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          TimesLeader: Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded[^]

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          • E Ed Gadziemski

            Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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            Ilion
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            Michelle Malkin: The Left Declares War on Joe the Plumber[^]

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            • E Ed Gadziemski

              Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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              Ed Gadziemski wrote:

              Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home.

              NY Post: RANGEL'S SPANISH EXCUSE[^] EXPLAINS NOT REPORTING $75,000 INCOME

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                So?


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                Well, I think what's at issue is "Joe's" (not his real name) claim that Obama's tax plan will prevent him from buying a plumbing business. A claim that is not true at all since "Joe" (real name: Samuel) is actually not a plumber at all and Obama's tax plans are the least of his worries: BBC article[^]. "However, a bit of media digging has uncovered that Mr Wurzelbacher's first name is actually Samuel and he does not have a plumber's licence, although the company he works for does. According to Tony Herrera, of the Plumbers and Steamfitters Local 50 in Toledo, Ohio, Mr Wurzelbacher cannot practise in Toledo without a licence - although he can work for someone with a master's licence or in outlying areas that do not require a licence. According to local court records, Mr Wurzelbacher also owes the state of Ohio $1,182.98 in personal income tax. Mr Wurzelbacher acknowledged he did not have a plumber's licence and admitted in one interview he was "not even close" to earning $250,000. "

                "If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank."

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                • E Ed Gadziemski

                  Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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                  Stan Shannon
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                  Wow! Now if only we knew that much about Obama - you know, the guy who is actually running for office - aside from the fact that he wants to 'spread our wealth around', that is.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Wow! Now if only we knew that much about Obama - you know, the guy who is actually running for office - aside from the fact that he wants to 'spread our wealth around', that is.

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Are you worried that "The American Dream" might turn out to be a nightmare?

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                    • 7 73Zeppelin

                      Well, I think what's at issue is "Joe's" (not his real name) claim that Obama's tax plan will prevent him from buying a plumbing business. A claim that is not true at all since "Joe" (real name: Samuel) is actually not a plumber at all and Obama's tax plans are the least of his worries: BBC article[^]. "However, a bit of media digging has uncovered that Mr Wurzelbacher's first name is actually Samuel and he does not have a plumber's licence, although the company he works for does. According to Tony Herrera, of the Plumbers and Steamfitters Local 50 in Toledo, Ohio, Mr Wurzelbacher cannot practise in Toledo without a licence - although he can work for someone with a master's licence or in outlying areas that do not require a licence. According to local court records, Mr Wurzelbacher also owes the state of Ohio $1,182.98 in personal income tax. Mr Wurzelbacher acknowledged he did not have a plumber's licence and admitted in one interview he was "not even close" to earning $250,000. "

                      "If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank."

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                      Gary Kirkham
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                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      "Joe's" (not his real name)

                      His name is Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher :rolleyes: Surely you can do better

                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      actually not a plumber at all

                      He is a plumber, he just isn't licenced. Working under a contractor's licence is acceptable, at least it is where I live. From what I have seen, he never claimed to make $250K

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                      • 7 73Zeppelin

                        Well, I think what's at issue is "Joe's" (not his real name) claim that Obama's tax plan will prevent him from buying a plumbing business. A claim that is not true at all since "Joe" (real name: Samuel) is actually not a plumber at all and Obama's tax plans are the least of his worries: BBC article[^]. "However, a bit of media digging has uncovered that Mr Wurzelbacher's first name is actually Samuel and he does not have a plumber's licence, although the company he works for does. According to Tony Herrera, of the Plumbers and Steamfitters Local 50 in Toledo, Ohio, Mr Wurzelbacher cannot practise in Toledo without a licence - although he can work for someone with a master's licence or in outlying areas that do not require a licence. According to local court records, Mr Wurzelbacher also owes the state of Ohio $1,182.98 in personal income tax. Mr Wurzelbacher acknowledged he did not have a plumber's licence and admitted in one interview he was "not even close" to earning $250,000. "

                        "If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank."

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                        It was a hypothetical question. It doesn't matter if Joe is actually Josephine the one legged crack whore. It doesn't negate anything.


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                          Ooo ooo! Do me next!


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                          Oakman
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                          BoneSoft wrote:

                          Ooo ooo! Do me next!

                          Did you really want to put that in print?

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                            BoneSoft wrote:

                            Ooo ooo! Do me next!

                            Did you really want to put that in print?

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            BoneSoft
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                            It was a tough decision... But there just wasn't a better way to word it. ;P


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                            • E Ed Gadziemski

                              Joe is not a licensed plumber. He is working illegally as an unlicensed plumber. Joe only made $40K in 2006 and is a single father so he would get a hefty tax reduction under Obama's tax plan. Joe owes the State of Ohio $1,200 in back taxes and they have filed a tax lien on his home. Joe is not buying a business and cannot because his credit is abysmal and he does not have the $1.25 million needed to buy a $250K annual going concern. Joe is the relative of a man who went to prison in the Keating 5 scandal. Joe's last name is misspelled in the voting registrar's database so he would be unable to vote if he hadn't registered prior to 2004. Joe is a registered Republican and voted in the Republican primary.

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                              Doesn't it scare the fuck out of you that the media (liberal) has dug up so much on the man in such short order to defend Obama?? Damn!

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                                Are you worried that "The American Dream" might turn out to be a nightmare?

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                                Stan Shannon
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                                It always has been a nightmare - to collectivists...

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Doesn't it scare the fuck out of you that the media (liberal) has dug up so much on the man in such short order to defend Obama?? Damn!

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                                  The really scary part is that people like Ed don't care. All of the "oh my god Bush has destroyed our civil liberties" crowd, could care less that a man who dared quesiton Obama is being destroyed for it. yet more proof of the real truth.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    The really scary part is that people like Ed don't care. All of the "oh my god Bush has destroyed our civil liberties" crowd, could care less that a man who dared quesiton Obama is being destroyed for it. yet more proof of the real truth.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    Ed Gadziemski
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                                    And Ed didn't try to set up McCain for a gotcha moment on tape. Damn that Ed!

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                                    • E Ed Gadziemski

                                      And Ed didn't try to set up McCain for a gotcha moment on tape. Damn that Ed!

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                                      If that was a set up - it worked. Obama admitted who and what he is. Thats the only pertinent issue.

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      • S Stan Shannon

                                        If that was a set up - it worked. Obama admitted who and what he is. Thats the only pertinent issue.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Ed Gadziemski
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                                        Okay, Stan. I understand that you want 90% of the nation's wealth concentrated in the hands of 1% of its population. I assume you're a member of the 1%. I personally would rather see that 90% of the nation's wealth spread more equally among 90% of the population. I'm not a member of the 1%. Perhaps that's why we take a different view.

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                                        • E Ed Gadziemski

                                          Okay, Stan. I understand that you want 90% of the nation's wealth concentrated in the hands of 1% of its population. I assume you're a member of the 1%. I personally would rather see that 90% of the nation's wealth spread more equally among 90% of the population. I'm not a member of the 1%. Perhaps that's why we take a different view.

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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          Nope. I spent most of my life very much towards the bottom. But I have benefitted from rich people freely spreading their wealth by paying me to do a job for them. I don't need Obama to help with that by forcing them to give that same money to people for doing nothing in return.

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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