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  • R Rob Graham

    Dow futures off 550. circuit breakers tripped before the market even opens. Looks like we are headed for free fall. Hope your parachutes were packed carefully.

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    Paul Conrad
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    Rob Graham wrote:

    Hope your parachutes were packed carefully.

    Hope the parachutes open :rolleyes:

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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    • R Rob Graham

      Steve_Harris wrote:

      Crude is down nearly 50%; the price per litre in the UK is down about 5%. Hmmm.

      US Gasoline is down at least 25%, perhaps 30% from its highs of earlier this year. Although there is always some lag (especially in the downward direction) between the price of crude and refined product, you should probably be asking loudly who is gouging whom at this point.

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      Paul Conrad
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      Rob Graham wrote:

      US Gasoline is down at least 25%

      Yep. Down to about $3.30'ish down the hill from me. Up here on the hill still in the $3.50 range, but that is quite a bit lower than 6 months ago.

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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        Rob Graham wrote:

        US Gasoline is down at least 25%

        Yep. Down to about $3.30'ish down the hill from me. Up here on the hill still in the $3.50 range, but that is quite a bit lower than 6 months ago.

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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        Gary Kirkham
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        I paid $2.62 this morning.

        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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          I paid $2.62 this morning.

          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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          Paul Conrad
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          Lucky you. Whereabouts was the gas station?

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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            I paid $2.62 this morning.

            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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            geoffs
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            ...and 2.49 at the local Costco...

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              Lucky you. Whereabouts was the gas station?

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              Gary Kirkham
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              At Walmart in Huntsville, Al

              Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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              • R Rob Graham

                Dow futures off 550. circuit breakers tripped before the market even opens. Looks like we are headed for free fall. Hope your parachutes were packed carefully.

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                Chris Austin
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                It's really not too bad right now for the buy and pray people since 8200 - 8300 seems to be a good support. As the time goes by well see if this is due to fundamentals or emotion. Either way, the trend is your friend.

                Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long

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                  At Walmart in Huntsville, Al

                  Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  Hmmmm. I'll have to look at the San Bernardino Sam Club this weekend and see what the price is there. The prices that I mentioned earlier is from Chevron and 76, which is usually high out here. Gas is always higher priced up here on the hill since they have to truck it up a 15 mile long grade that climbs 4,800 feet. My Price Lock card for $2.99/gallon was nice for pumping gas around here, doesn't make much difference down the hill. With the way crude is dropping, it might not make a difference at all soon.

                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    It's really not too bad right now for the buy and pray people since 8200 - 8300 seems to be a good support. As the time goes by well see if this is due to fundamentals or emotion. Either way, the trend is your friend.

                    Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long

                    modified on Friday, October 24, 2008 11:13 AM

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                    73Zeppelin
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                    Just curious how much of a "chartist" are you Chris?

                    This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                      Just curious how much of a "chartist" are you Chris?

                      This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                      I am pretty close to a stereotypical turtle trader. That is I don't put much faith in prognostications about the fundamentals of a security. I just make short to mid term trades based on TA(the chart) and couple of simple price pivot strategies. If I actually took buy and hold seriously I'd probably be more concerned with fundamentals and long term outlooks.

                      Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long

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                        I am pretty close to a stereotypical turtle trader. That is I don't put much faith in prognostications about the fundamentals of a security. I just make short to mid term trades based on TA(the chart) and couple of simple price pivot strategies. If I actually took buy and hold seriously I'd probably be more concerned with fundamentals and long term outlooks.

                        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long

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                        73Zeppelin
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                        Chris Austin wrote:

                        I am pretty close to a stereotypical turtle trader. That is I don't put much faith in prognostications about the fundamentals of a security. I just make short to mid term trades based on TA(the chart) and couple of simple price pivot strategies. If I actually took buy and hold seriously I'd probably be more concerned with fundamentals and long term outlooks.

                        Thought so. Myself, I'm more fundamentals. I used to have huge arguments about technical analysis with a couple of hedge fund guys. Not sure how they're doing in this market, but I'd be curious. I know one guy who is really into momentum trading. I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as you make some gains and remain solvent...

                        This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                          Chris Austin wrote:

                          I am pretty close to a stereotypical turtle trader. That is I don't put much faith in prognostications about the fundamentals of a security. I just make short to mid term trades based on TA(the chart) and couple of simple price pivot strategies. If I actually took buy and hold seriously I'd probably be more concerned with fundamentals and long term outlooks.

                          Thought so. Myself, I'm more fundamentals. I used to have huge arguments about technical analysis with a couple of hedge fund guys. Not sure how they're doing in this market, but I'd be curious. I know one guy who is really into momentum trading. I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as you make some gains and remain solvent...

                          This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                          I hate to say it but it's been a pretty decent time right now. These short buy and sell cycles are almost easily predictable right now. But, I am closing my positions pretty quickly these days since I honestly fear that there is some market manipulation that is keeping the market from breaking out further downward.

                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          I suppose in and remain solvent...

                          No un-covered positions for me. I had an acquaintance who got the "margin call of death" when I first started this years ago. I was scared into covering everything since then.

                          Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long

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                            Chris Austin wrote:

                            I am pretty close to a stereotypical turtle trader. That is I don't put much faith in prognostications about the fundamentals of a security. I just make short to mid term trades based on TA(the chart) and couple of simple price pivot strategies. If I actually took buy and hold seriously I'd probably be more concerned with fundamentals and long term outlooks.

                            Thought so. Myself, I'm more fundamentals. I used to have huge arguments about technical analysis with a couple of hedge fund guys. Not sure how they're doing in this market, but I'd be curious. I know one guy who is really into momentum trading. I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as you make some gains and remain solvent...

                            This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                            73Zeppelin wrote:

                            I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as you make some gains and remain solvent...

                            especially if you don't give a fuck about the consequences in the Real WorldTM

                            If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy! Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as you make some gains and remain solvent...

                              especially if you don't give a fuck about the consequences in the Real WorldTM

                              If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy! Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                              Yeah, yeah. Capital markets drive the economy, be very careful about vilifying them. When rich nations do well, poor nations benefit. When rich nations do badly, poor nations suffer. Capitalism is not the evil it's made out to be, but it does make a convenient scapegoat.

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                                ...and 2.49 at the local Costco...

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                                Oakman
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                                geoffs wrote:

                                ...and 2.49 at the local Costco...

                                And that's what it is here in South Carolina. Only 7 cents gas tax. :-D

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                                  Yeah, yeah. Capital markets drive the economy, be very careful about vilifying them. When rich nations do well, poor nations benefit. When rich nations do badly, poor nations suffer. Capitalism is not the evil it's made out to be, but it does make a convenient scapegoat.

                                  This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                                  Capitalism is not the evil it's made out to be,

                                  Absolutely true, but neither is it the Holy Grail as some would have us believe.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    Yeah, yeah. Capital markets drive the economy, be very careful about vilifying them. When rich nations do well, poor nations benefit. When rich nations do badly, poor nations suffer. Capitalism is not the evil it's made out to be, but it does make a convenient scapegoat.

                                    This is what we've waited for This is it, boys, this is war

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                                    KaRl
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                                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                                    When rich nations do well, poor nations benefit. When rich nations do badly, poor nations suffer

                                    When rich nations do well, poor nations suffer. When rich nations do badly, poor nations suffer. Look at Africa for instance "When the pitcher falls upon the stone, woe to the pitcher ; when the stone falls upon the pitcher, woe to the pitcher; whatever mishap, woe to the pitcher"

                                    When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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