Anil Dash's Linguistic Analysis of Sarah Palin
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So there wouldn't be a problem if McCain had started his campaign for president from the home of one of the Manson family? :-D
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
So there wouldn't be a problem if McCain had started his campaign for president from the home of one of the Manson family?
If McCain endorsed and/or took part in the activities of the Manson family that would be a problem. The key here is not simple association, but what a person is actively doing. For example, if you go golfing with someone who you later find out is a murderer, that doesn't mean you're a murderer. If you kill someone, then you're a murderer. It's not contagious. If Obama serves on a board with someone who was a terrorist almost 40 years before, that doesn't make him a terrorist. If he blew people up with a bomb, that would make him a terrorist. It's not contagious.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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Oakman wrote:
The hell I do. Obama's running for office and is asking for my vote. I on the other hand am a private citizen, not running for anything. I don't need to show sh*t. He does.
You're free to vote for anyone you like, but if you want to say Obama is taking part in terrorist activities then you have to prove it. You have not provided a single bit of evidence to support that claim.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
if you want to say Obama is taking part in terrorist activities then you have to prove it.
Please provide a link to the post where I said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
You have not provided a single bit of evidence to support that claim.
Please provide a link to the post where I said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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DRHuff wrote:
So there wouldn't be a problem if McCain had started his campaign for president from the home of one of the Manson family?
If McCain endorsed and/or took part in the activities of the Manson family that would be a problem. The key here is not simple association, but what a person is actively doing. For example, if you go golfing with someone who you later find out is a murderer, that doesn't mean you're a murderer. If you kill someone, then you're a murderer. It's not contagious. If Obama serves on a board with someone who was a terrorist almost 40 years before, that doesn't make him a terrorist. If he blew people up with a bomb, that would make him a terrorist. It's not contagious.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
For example, if you go golfing with someone who you later find out is a murderer, that doesn't mean you're a murderer.
No but if you keep golfing with them that might mean you lack a certain amount of good judgement and common sense. Unless you are implying that in all the time that Obama worked with him he was never informed that Bill Ayers was 'that Bill Ayers'?
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
that doesn't make him a terrorist.
I am not saying that he is a terrorist - just that his choice of acquaintances seems to indicate either an astounding lack of judgement or an implicit acceptance that what Ayers did just wasn't that big of a deal. Either way it has a profound influence on my opinion of the man. Lucky for you this Canadian doesn't get to vote!
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
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Daniel Ferguson wrote:
For example, if you go golfing with someone who you later find out is a murderer, that doesn't mean you're a murderer.
No but if you keep golfing with them that might mean you lack a certain amount of good judgement and common sense. Unless you are implying that in all the time that Obama worked with him he was never informed that Bill Ayers was 'that Bill Ayers'?
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
that doesn't make him a terrorist.
I am not saying that he is a terrorist - just that his choice of acquaintances seems to indicate either an astounding lack of judgement or an implicit acceptance that what Ayers did just wasn't that big of a deal. Either way it has a profound influence on my opinion of the man. Lucky for you this Canadian doesn't get to vote!
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
I am not saying that he is a terrorist - just that his choice of acquaintances seems to indicate either an astounding lack of judgement or an implicit acceptance that what Ayers did just wasn't that big of a deal.
I could say the same thing about McCain and Keating, except that Keating gave McCain a lot of money to put pressure on other politicians. Actually, that's a lot worse and it does say something direct about McCain's character. I hope you didn't vote for Stephen Harper. ;P
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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Daniel Ferguson wrote:
if you want to say Obama is taking part in terrorist activities then you have to prove it.
Please provide a link to the post where I said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
You have not provided a single bit of evidence to support that claim.
Please provide a link to the post where I said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Please provide a link to the post where I said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
That sounds like some kind of, I dunno, gotcha question or something. I'm the apparent king of gotcha questions, so I'm not going to fall for it. ;P So you agree then that Obama wasn't taking part in terrorist activities? Ya shoulda told me sooner! :-D
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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DRHuff wrote:
I am not saying that he is a terrorist - just that his choice of acquaintances seems to indicate either an astounding lack of judgement or an implicit acceptance that what Ayers did just wasn't that big of a deal.
I could say the same thing about McCain and Keating, except that Keating gave McCain a lot of money to put pressure on other politicians. Actually, that's a lot worse and it does say something direct about McCain's character. I hope you didn't vote for Stephen Harper. ;P
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
I hope you didn't vote for Stephen Harper
Nope - we don't vote for the Prime Minister unless you are in his riding. Both my parents did though. As for me - well I'm just one of those rednecked Alberta knuckledragging racists - so I voted for a guy named Deepak! :-D
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
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Oakman wrote:
Please provide a link to the post where I said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
That sounds like some kind of, I dunno, gotcha question or something. I'm the apparent king of gotcha questions, so I'm not going to fall for it. ;P So you agree then that Obama wasn't taking part in terrorist activities? Ya shoulda told me sooner! :-D
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
That sounds like some kind of, I dunno, gotcha question or somet
Nope it is an accusation of lying. You lied when you said that I ever said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities. Unable to defend your point of view with facts or even reasoned opinions you made stuff up. Have I made myself clear, now?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Daniel Ferguson wrote:
That sounds like some kind of, I dunno, gotcha question or somet
Nope it is an accusation of lying. You lied when you said that I ever said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities. Unable to defend your point of view with facts or even reasoned opinions you made stuff up. Have I made myself clear, now?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Nope it is an accusation of lying. You lied when you said that I ever said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
Not so. Here's the link. http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/Profiles.aspx?mid=420158[^]
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
With bombs? No?
What a stupid f***ing question. You want to claim that there's a statute of limitations on terrorism, fine by me. Ayers got off on a technicality, even though it was obvious he was as guilty as could be.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
You need to show what terrorist activities that Ayers has taken part in recently and how Obama was in on it.
The hell I do. Obama's running for office and is asking for my vote. I on the other hand am a private citizen, not running for anything. I don't need to show sh*t. He does. ---- You start off by saying Ayers is guilty of terrorism (which I don't dispute), then in response to my question about how "Obama was in on it [terrorism]" you say that you don't need to show any such proof and that "He [Obama] does". I then replied in the next post that if you think Obama is involved in terrorism, the onus doesn't fall on him to prove that he isn't but on you to prove that he is, since you're accusing him.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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Oakman wrote:
Nope it is an accusation of lying. You lied when you said that I ever said that Obama was taking part in terrorist activities.
Not so. Here's the link. http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/Profiles.aspx?mid=420158[^]
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
With bombs? No?
What a stupid f***ing question. You want to claim that there's a statute of limitations on terrorism, fine by me. Ayers got off on a technicality, even though it was obvious he was as guilty as could be.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
You need to show what terrorist activities that Ayers has taken part in recently and how Obama was in on it.
The hell I do. Obama's running for office and is asking for my vote. I on the other hand am a private citizen, not running for anything. I don't need to show sh*t. He does. ---- You start off by saying Ayers is guilty of terrorism (which I don't dispute), then in response to my question about how "Obama was in on it [terrorism]" you say that you don't need to show any such proof and that "He [Obama] does". I then replied in the next post that if you think Obama is involved in terrorism, the onus doesn't fall on him to prove that he isn't but on you to prove that he is, since you're accusing him.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
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If you repeat it enough, you might start to believe it's true.
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts