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That Obama has achieved - even a fervent supporter could not.[^] I bet you can't either, please signify with a "1" vote if you can't. A "5" if you can.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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I just keep waiting for the Twilight Zone music to start and for Rod Sirling to appear on TV saying "For your consideration, a man named Obama, a man of no accomplishments, a man with no past, a man with no friends, the president of the united states..."
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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I just keep waiting for the Twilight Zone music to start and for Rod Sirling to appear on TV saying "For your consideration, a man named Obama, a man of no accomplishments, a man with no past, a man with no friends, the president of the united states..."
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I just keep waiting for the Twilight Zone music to start
I'm thinking we need to find the theme song for the Jimma Carter show, that great comedy from years ago, but I think Billy pissed all over it.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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That Obama has achieved - even a fervent supporter could not.[^] I bet you can't either, please signify with a "1" vote if you can't. A "5" if you can.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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what this comes down to is not what obama has done but what people are afraid mcCain will do. almost always when this conversation comes up ( at least round these parts ;P ) obama's accomplishments are never discussed as much as people fears about mcCain/Palin. people are just plain afraid to elect mcCain. for whatever reason. just another election where the issues are never what people are voting based on. this is just my opinion, which is not to say that i would vote for one or the other. libertarian party FTW! :)
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what this comes down to is not what obama has done but what people are afraid mcCain will do. almost always when this conversation comes up ( at least round these parts ;P ) obama's accomplishments are never discussed as much as people fears about mcCain/Palin. people are just plain afraid to elect mcCain. for whatever reason. just another election where the issues are never what people are voting based on. this is just my opinion, which is not to say that i would vote for one or the other. libertarian party FTW! :)
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jgasm wrote:
people are just plain afraid to elect mcCain. for whatever reason. just another election where the issues are never what people are voting based on.
Well, thats just sad. More afraid of a war hero and a women with a perfectly traditional American background than of a man with a life long history of associations with radical leftist - to the extent that he has any history at all.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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what this comes down to is not what obama has done but what people are afraid mcCain will do. almost always when this conversation comes up ( at least round these parts ;P ) obama's accomplishments are never discussed as much as people fears about mcCain/Palin. people are just plain afraid to elect mcCain. for whatever reason. just another election where the issues are never what people are voting based on. this is just my opinion, which is not to say that i would vote for one or the other. libertarian party FTW! :)
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
jgasm wrote:
libertarian party FTW!
sorry. I wasted my vote once on a guy named Perot. like it or not we have a 2 party dominance and the nation will devolve before that is ever cured. A Barr vote is an Obama vote.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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jgasm wrote:
people are just plain afraid to elect mcCain. for whatever reason. just another election where the issues are never what people are voting based on.
Well, thats just sad. More afraid of a war hero and a women with a perfectly traditional American background than of a man with a life long history of associations with radical leftist - to the extent that he has any history at all.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Well, thats just sad. More afraid of a war hero and a women with a perfectly traditional American background than of a man with a life long history of associations with radical leftist - to the extent that he has any history at all.
that is just how you see it. obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives. Also, i am sick to death of your constant "leftist" and "rightist" partisan crap.
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jgasm wrote:
libertarian party FTW!
sorry. I wasted my vote once on a guy named Perot. like it or not we have a 2 party dominance and the nation will devolve before that is ever cured. A Barr vote is an Obama vote.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
like it or not we have a 2 party dominance and the nation will devolve before that is ever cured.
:(
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Well, thats just sad. More afraid of a war hero and a women with a perfectly traditional American background than of a man with a life long history of associations with radical leftist - to the extent that he has any history at all.
that is just how you see it. obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives. Also, i am sick to death of your constant "leftist" and "rightist" partisan crap.
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jgasm wrote:
obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives.
They must be all those "free thinkers" I keep hearing so much about. Good thing they all agree with each other...
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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jgasm wrote:
obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives.
They must be all those "free thinkers" I keep hearing so much about. Good thing they all agree with each other...
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
They must be all those "free thinkers" I keep hearing so much about. Good thing they all agree with each other...
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=2605&msg=2785686[^]
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Stan Shannon wrote:
They must be all those "free thinkers" I keep hearing so much about. Good thing they all agree with each other...
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=2605&msg=2785686[^]
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
jgasm wrote:
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=2605&msg=2785686\[^\]
Precisely.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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jgasm wrote:
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=2605&msg=2785686\[^\]
Precisely.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
:rolleyes:
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Well, thats just sad. More afraid of a war hero and a women with a perfectly traditional American background than of a man with a life long history of associations with radical leftist - to the extent that he has any history at all.
that is just how you see it. obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives. Also, i am sick to death of your constant "leftist" and "rightist" partisan crap.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
jgasm wrote:
obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives
and they are a gaggle of fucking morons who have absolutely no common sense.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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jgasm wrote:
obviously a large portion of american people view the candidates with a different set of adjectives
and they are a gaggle of fucking morons who have absolutely no common sense.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
and they are a gaggle of f***ing morons who have absolutely no common sense.
and they would say the same thing about "your side"
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
and they are a gaggle of f***ing morons who have absolutely no common sense.
and they would say the same thing about "your side"
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jgasm wrote:
and they would say the same thing about "your side"
then "they" are too young to remember Jimma Carter or incapable of asking critical questions, but they're fucking morons none the less. I suspect you've swallowed whole the, "he'll bring us all together" bullshit. If so, check the spike in gun sales or look at the markets and ask yourself, "why?". I'd place a significant wager that the "why" is in anticipation of the Messiah's economic plans.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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jgasm wrote:
and they would say the same thing about "your side"
then "they" are too young to remember Jimma Carter or incapable of asking critical questions, but they're fucking morons none the less. I suspect you've swallowed whole the, "he'll bring us all together" bullshit. If so, check the spike in gun sales or look at the markets and ask yourself, "why?". I'd place a significant wager that the "why" is in anticipation of the Messiah's economic plans.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
then "they" are too young to remember Jimma Carter or incapable of asking critical questions, but they're f***ing morons none the less.
duh. anyone who does not agree with you must be...
Mike Gaskey wrote:
f***ing morons
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
then "they" are too young to remember Jimma Carter or incapable of asking critical questions, but they're f***ing morons none the less.
duh. anyone who does not agree with you must be...
Mike Gaskey wrote:
f***ing morons
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jgasm wrote:
duh. anyone who does not agree with you must be...
well, I'll tell you what. if the messiah is elected, you'll be the one harmed. I'm close enough to retirement to in fact retire and have the pension, 401(k) money and pure cash to live quite well. You do not. I most probably will because I'll not pay taxes to support you and the fraud you'll have elected.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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jgasm wrote:
duh. anyone who does not agree with you must be...
well, I'll tell you what. if the messiah is elected, you'll be the one harmed. I'm close enough to retirement to in fact retire and have the pension, 401(k) money and pure cash to live quite well. You do not. I most probably will because I'll not pay taxes to support you and the fraud you'll have elected.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
well, I'll tell you what. if the messiah is elected, you'll be the one harmed. I'm close enough to retirement to in fact retire and have the pension, 401(k) money and pure cash to live quite well. You do not. I most probably will because I'll not pay taxes to support you and the fraud you'll have elected.
damn. that is a lot of assumptions. :rolleyes:
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jgasm wrote:
and they would say the same thing about "your side"
then "they" are too young to remember Jimma Carter or incapable of asking critical questions, but they're fucking morons none the less. I suspect you've swallowed whole the, "he'll bring us all together" bullshit. If so, check the spike in gun sales or look at the markets and ask yourself, "why?". I'd place a significant wager that the "why" is in anticipation of the Messiah's economic plans.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
look at the markets and ask yourself, "why?".
I did. My answer has a lot to do Clinton and just about as much to do with Bush. I'd suggest that if the hedge fund managers are blaming the present on the future, that demonstrates a lack of the ability to ask critical questions, in and of itself, and hardly a reason to blame Obama.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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That Obama has achieved - even a fervent supporter could not.[^] I bet you can't either, please signify with a "1" vote if you can't. A "5" if you can.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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He has achieved the Democratic nomination and a substantial lead over your favoured candidate.
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He has achieved the Democratic nomination and a substantial lead over your favoured candidate.
Got to give you props for an actual answer to the question.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.