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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    You generally have more control over a property, but if you don't need that control then it's just overhead. And have you looked at automatic properties (or whatever they're called)?

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    That Asian Guy
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    No, whats that :S?

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      I've been using properties for quite some time, and it was until today that a question came to me: what's the difference between using a property and a variable? I know properties are better practice, but still... just wondering :).

      public int Number
      {
      get
      {
      return this.number;
      }
      set
      {
      this.number = value;
      }
      }

      vs

      public int number = 0;

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      DaveyM69
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      There are many reasons - a couple to get you started... 1. Using a property enables you to do validation etc within the object that holds the variable in the getter and setter methods. Imagine if the number variable should be restricted to a certain range under certain situations. If you expose the variable directly you have no control over what goes into it - other than the data type. With a property you can test the value parameter, and raise an exception or set the variable to a different value etc. 2. Properties do not have to refer to an actual variable. e.g.

      private int number1;
      private int number2;

      public int Sum
      {
      get { return number1 + number2; }
      }

      Dave
      BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
      Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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        There are many reasons - a couple to get you started... 1. Using a property enables you to do validation etc within the object that holds the variable in the getter and setter methods. Imagine if the number variable should be restricted to a certain range under certain situations. If you expose the variable directly you have no control over what goes into it - other than the data type. With a property you can test the value parameter, and raise an exception or set the variable to a different value etc. 2. Properties do not have to refer to an actual variable. e.g.

        private int number1;
        private int number2;

        public int Sum
        {
        get { return number1 + number2; }
        }

        Dave
        BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
        Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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        That Asian Guy
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        I see... thanks.

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        • T That Asian Guy

          No, whats that :S?

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          DaveyM69
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          If you don't 'need' the private variable yourself but are just using it to hold a property's value with no validation then you can do this and the compiler takes care of it all for you. Personally I never use them as I like to be in control of what's happening.

          // no need for private int number;
          public int Number { get; set; }

          Dave
          BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
          Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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          • T That Asian Guy

            No, whats that :S?

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Auto-Implemented Properties

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              If you don't 'need' the private variable yourself but are just using it to hold a property's value with no validation then you can do this and the compiler takes care of it all for you. Personally I never use them as I like to be in control of what's happening.

              // no need for private int number;
              public int Number { get; set; }

              Dave
              BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
              Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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              That Asian Guy
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              What would be the initial value of the property?

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              • T That Asian Guy

                What would be the initial value of the property?

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                DaveyM69
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                Whatever the intial value of the data type - 0 in the case of an int. All value types have an initial value. Reference types will be null (I believe - I haven't checked) as no instance has yet been created.

                Dave
                BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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                  If you don't 'need' the private variable yourself but are just using it to hold a property's value with no validation then you can do this and the compiler takes care of it all for you. Personally I never use them as I like to be in control of what's happening.

                  // no need for private int number;
                  public int Number { get; set; }

                  Dave
                  BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                  Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  I like these, simple in the above style and can easily be expanded to a normal property if required.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  • T That Asian Guy

                    I've been using properties for quite some time, and it was until today that a question came to me: what's the difference between using a property and a variable? I know properties are better practice, but still... just wondering :).

                    public int Number
                    {
                    get
                    {
                    return this.number;
                    }
                    set
                    {
                    this.number = value;
                    }
                    }

                    vs

                    public int number = 0;

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                    Mark Churchill
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                    A property can be an interface member, whereas a variable can't be. This means changing the definition of a class to add/remove a property is a breaking change. Generally speaking if "Number" is part of the publically available API, then you want to expose it as a property. A variable can be passed by reference (ref/out), a property can't be. A variable has only one access modifier, a property can have a different modifier on get/set. In terms of overhead, the effort of implementation is quite small if you use automatic properties. int Foo { get;set; }. In terms of performance the simple accessor will usually be inlined by JIT, making the performance identical (except on forms - they inherit MarshalByRef). Also as a property is effectively a stub of metadata pointing to getter and setter methods, they can benefit from things like declarative security, etc.

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      I like these, simple in the above style and can easily be expanded to a normal property if required.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      DaveyM69
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                      For future extensibility they are useful I suppose - but I've found I nearly always need more control so I do it the 'old fashioned' way! Also, not being able to have true read only properties this way (you have to have a set; - although it can have a private accessor) is a pain.

                      Dave
                      BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                      Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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                        For future extensibility they are useful I suppose - but I've found I nearly always need more control so I do it the 'old fashioned' way! Also, not being able to have true read only properties this way (you have to have a set; - although it can have a private accessor) is a pain.

                        Dave
                        BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                        Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        I use properties a LOT, I have a class for each table in my BLL and a property for each field in the table (all auto generated) so nearly all of these can be serviced by the auto property. Expanding an auto to a full property is really simple and can be done at any time.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          For future extensibility they are useful I suppose - but I've found I nearly always need more control so I do it the 'old fashioned' way! Also, not being able to have true read only properties this way (you have to have a set; - although it can have a private accessor) is a pain.

                          Dave
                          BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                          Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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                          J4amieC
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                          you know you can do this: public int MyInt{get; **private** set; }

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                          • J J4amieC

                            you know you can do this: public int MyInt{get; **private** set; }

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                            DaveyM69
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                            Yeah - in my post...

                            DaveyM69 wrote:

                            although it can have a private accessor

                            Dave
                            BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                            Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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