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  • V vaghelabhavesh

    Yeah Its been two years. I asked the HR department to improve filtering & recruitment process but as they are looking for cheap labor I don't think this will ever happen.

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    GibbleCH
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    That's not cheap though, it's way more expensive in the long run if they aren't competent. More fixing bugs, and longer development time. And what the heck kind of code would they put in the else if you don't technically need an else?

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    • S Shaun Wilde

      Ah a follower of the 'there must be only one return statement per method cult'.

      I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. - pTerry
      BizSquawk

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      #20

      A misguided one, gives the rest of us a bad name. Though I don't see where any other returns would go.

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      • G GibbleCH

        That's not cheap though, it's way more expensive in the long run if they aren't competent. More fixing bugs, and longer development time. And what the heck kind of code would they put in the else if you don't technically need an else?

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        vaghelabhavesh
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        GibbleCH wrote:

        And what the heck kind of code would they put in the else if you don't technically need an else?

        I have no idea man....Thank god I am in a different company now :-)

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        • R Robert Rohde

          How would you think of this?

          return dt != null && dt.Rows.Count > 0 && (int)t.Rows[0]["Number"] == 1;

          The last part depends on the data the table contains. But if its clear that the column is filled with integers then this should be more efficient.

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          BadKarma
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          #22

          Just a question: What if there is no value integer or otherwise in t.Rows[0]["Number"]? Wouldn't this result into a crash.

          Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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          • T Timothy Byrd

            Oddly enough, I just got rid of some code that looked a bit like that...

            bool InitRoutine()
            {
            bool failed=false;

            ValType val;
            
            HRESULT ans = GetValue1(val);
            if (ans==S\_OK)
                {
                globalVal1 = val;
                }
            else
                {
                failed = failed || true;
                }
            
            ans = GetValue2(val);
            if (ans==S\_OK)
                {
                globalVal2 = val;
                }
            else
                {
                failed = failed || true;
                }
            
            ans = GetValue3(val);
            if (ans==S\_OK)
                {
                globalVal3 = val;
                }
            else
                {
                failed = failed || true;
                }
            
            ans = GetValue4(val);
            if (ans==S\_OK)
                {
                globalVal4 = val;
                }
            else
                {
                failed = failed || true;
                }
            
            
            return !failed;
            }
            
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            Malli_S
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            Err ! Was that guy thinking to leave the company while writing this code ? :^)

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            • S Stephen Hewitt

              What's so bad about that? I'd do it like the following but I've seen far worse than that code:

              // Only proceed id if 'dt' is valid and contains at least one row.
              if (dt == NULL)
              return false;
              if (dt.Rows.Count == 0)
              return false;
               
              return (t.Rows[0]["Number"].ToString() == "1");

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              KarstenK
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              #24

              Thats fine code: logical development (right order) and easy to understand and maintain. :-O

              Greetings from Germany

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              • V vaghelabhavesh

                This code reminds me one developer working under me, according to her every if has to have else, you can't use if alone. :-)

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                KarstenK
                wrote on last edited by
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                Did your hear about the Zune (aka as Y2k9) bug? There was missing an else. X|

                Greetings from Germany

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                • B BadKarma

                  Just a question: What if there is no value integer or otherwise in t.Rows[0]["Number"]? Wouldn't this result into a crash.

                  Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                  Robert Rohde
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                  Thats why I wrote the following after the code block:

                  The last part depends on the data the table contains. But if its clear that the column is filled with integers then this should be more efficient.

                  Probably I should have added: ... and otherwise the code will explode. :-D

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                  • B BadKarma

                    Just a question: What if there is no value integer or otherwise in t.Rows[0]["Number"]? Wouldn't this result into a crash.

                    Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                    che3358
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                    #27

                    I believe it will be another if...else IF the developer knew to deal with the DBNull issue that you mentioned. Now, how many ELSE he has? :)

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                    • R Robert Rohde

                      How would you think of this?

                      return dt != null && dt.Rows.Count > 0 && (int)t.Rows[0]["Number"] == 1;

                      The last part depends on the data the table contains. But if its clear that the column is filled with integers then this should be more efficient.

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                      qualitychecker
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                      #28

                      Nice (and compact) solution !! Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language / the optimization of the underlaying compiler .. More safe and maintainable code: ------------------------------------ bool res = false; if (null == dt) else if (null == dt.Rows) else if (dt.Rows.Count < 0) else res = (1 == (int)dt.Rows[0]["Number"]); return res; ------------------------------------ Rules to be applied : (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first (2) : always control potential nulls even if seems useless versus construction rules (ex null == dt.Rows) (3) : provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems (4) : write readable code (5) : single return output point Shears and happy new year.

                      modified on Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:03 AM

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                      • Q qualitychecker

                        Nice (and compact) solution !! Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language / the optimization of the underlaying compiler .. More safe and maintainable code: ------------------------------------ bool res = false; if (null == dt) else if (null == dt.Rows) else if (dt.Rows.Count < 0) else res = (1 == (int)dt.Rows[0]["Number"]); return res; ------------------------------------ Rules to be applied : (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first (2) : always control potential nulls even if seems useless versus construction rules (ex null == dt.Rows) (3) : provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems (4) : write readable code (5) : single return output point Shears and happy new year.

                        modified on Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:03 AM

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        qualitychecker wrote:

                        Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language

                        Uh, yeah, so? Are we going to get into that again?

                        qualitychecker wrote:

                        always put constants first

                        If you can remember to do that, you're smart enough not to make that mistake in the first place.

                        qualitychecker wrote:

                        provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems

                        No thanks.

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          qualitychecker wrote:

                          Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language

                          Uh, yeah, so? Are we going to get into that again?

                          qualitychecker wrote:

                          always put constants first

                          If you can remember to do that, you're smart enough not to make that mistake in the first place.

                          qualitychecker wrote:

                          provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems

                          No thanks.

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          If you can remember to do that, you're smart enough not to make that mistake in the first place.

                          I agree, although one might argue that on the rare occasion one might forget to apply this strange habit, the statement could still be correct (i.e. one could accidentally forget to drop one of the = signs). :-D

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                          Love, happiness and fewer bugs for 2009!


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                          • C che3358

                            The following code was found in someone's web template. Hope you enjoy the best logic.

                            if(dt != null)
                            {
                            if(dt.Rows.Count != 0)
                            {
                            if(dt.Rows[0]["Number"].ToString() == "1")
                            {
                            return true;
                            }
                            else
                            {
                            return false;
                            }
                            }
                            else
                            {
                            return false;
                            }
                            }
                            else
                            {
                            return false;
                            }

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                            Tony Pottier
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                            There's nothing "horrible" in this code. Industry is all about making something that works and that's easily understandable by your co-workers. Sure, this is going over the top, and I'd do something that was suggested above, like:

                            if (dt == NULL)
                            return false;
                            if (dt.Rows.Count == 0)
                            return false;

                            return (t.Rows[0]["Number"].ToString() == "1");

                            But, seriously, who cares? It's readable and it will run as fast as return dt != null && dt.Rows.Count > 0 && (int)t.Rows[0]["Number"] == 1;

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                            • L Luc Pattyn

                              Nah. This is much more difficult to debug, how would you set a breakpoint anywhere inside such a complex expression?

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                              Love, happiness and fewer bugs for 2009!


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                              Stephen Hewitt
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                              Agreed.

                              Steve

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                              • Q qualitychecker

                                Nice (and compact) solution !! Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language / the optimization of the underlaying compiler .. More safe and maintainable code: ------------------------------------ bool res = false; if (null == dt) else if (null == dt.Rows) else if (dt.Rows.Count < 0) else res = (1 == (int)dt.Rows[0]["Number"]); return res; ------------------------------------ Rules to be applied : (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first (2) : always control potential nulls even if seems useless versus construction rules (ex null == dt.Rows) (3) : provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems (4) : write readable code (5) : single return output point Shears and happy new year.

                                modified on Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:03 AM

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                                qualitychecker wrote:

                                Rules to be applied : (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first (2) : always control potential nulls even if seems useless versus construction rules (ex null == dt.Rows) (3) : provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems (4) : write readable code (5) : single return output point

                                You cannot satisfy rule (4) AND all the others :)

                                -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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                                • Q qualitychecker

                                  Nice (and compact) solution !! Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language / the optimization of the underlaying compiler .. More safe and maintainable code: ------------------------------------ bool res = false; if (null == dt) else if (null == dt.Rows) else if (dt.Rows.Count < 0) else res = (1 == (int)dt.Rows[0]["Number"]); return res; ------------------------------------ Rules to be applied : (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first (2) : always control potential nulls even if seems useless versus construction rules (ex null == dt.Rows) (3) : provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems (4) : write readable code (5) : single return output point Shears and happy new year.

                                  modified on Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:03 AM

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                                  User 4483848
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                                  qualitychecker wrote:

                                  (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first

                                  I used to do this a bit when I was writting C, but I don't think there is any benefit with C#. Try doing a single = in a in a if statement and the compiler will complain. So can anybody see a benefit of doing (null == x)? Actually, I've just checked, it doesn't always complain, although I think it does sometimes complain.

                                  modified on Monday, January 12, 2009 9:22 AM

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                                    qualitychecker wrote:

                                    (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first

                                    I used to do this a bit when I was writting C, but I don't think there is any benefit with C#. Try doing a single = in a in a if statement and the compiler will complain. So can anybody see a benefit of doing (null == x)? Actually, I've just checked, it doesn't always complain, although I think it does sometimes complain.

                                    modified on Monday, January 12, 2009 9:22 AM

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    Member 4487083 wrote:

                                    the compiler will complain

                                    Except when using booleans.

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                                    • G GibbleCH

                                      That's not cheap though, it's way more expensive in the long run if they aren't competent. More fixing bugs, and longer development time. And what the heck kind of code would they put in the else if you don't technically need an else?

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                                      kenrentz
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                                      With thinking like that you'll never make it in HR :-D

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                                      • T Timothy Byrd

                                        Oddly enough, I just got rid of some code that looked a bit like that...

                                        bool InitRoutine()
                                        {
                                        bool failed=false;

                                        ValType val;
                                        
                                        HRESULT ans = GetValue1(val);
                                        if (ans==S\_OK)
                                            {
                                            globalVal1 = val;
                                            }
                                        else
                                            {
                                            failed = failed || true;
                                            }
                                        
                                        ans = GetValue2(val);
                                        if (ans==S\_OK)
                                            {
                                            globalVal2 = val;
                                            }
                                        else
                                            {
                                            failed = failed || true;
                                            }
                                        
                                        ans = GetValue3(val);
                                        if (ans==S\_OK)
                                            {
                                            globalVal3 = val;
                                            }
                                        else
                                            {
                                            failed = failed || true;
                                            }
                                        
                                        ans = GetValue4(val);
                                        if (ans==S\_OK)
                                            {
                                            globalVal4 = val;
                                            }
                                        else
                                            {
                                            failed = failed || true;
                                            }
                                        
                                        
                                        return !failed;
                                        }
                                        
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                                        Jeremy Tierman
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                                        Beautiful... failed = failed || true;

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                                        • Q qualitychecker

                                          Nice (and compact) solution !! Still depends on the precedence priorities of the language / the optimization of the underlaying compiler .. More safe and maintainable code: ------------------------------------ bool res = false; if (null == dt) else if (null == dt.Rows) else if (dt.Rows.Count < 0) else res = (1 == (int)dt.Rows[0]["Number"]); return res; ------------------------------------ Rules to be applied : (1) : prevent against '=' instead of '==' : always put constants first (2) : always control potential nulls even if seems useless versus construction rules (ex null == dt.Rows) (3) : provide debugging / tracing points in case of future problems (4) : write readable code (5) : single return output point Shears and happy new year.

                                          modified on Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:03 AM

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                                          Timothy Byrd
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                                          qualitychecker wrote:

                                          More safe and maintainable code: ------------------------------------ bool res = false; if (null == dt) else if (null == dt.Rows) else if (dt.Rows.Count < 0) else res = (1 == (int)dt.Rows[0]["Number"]); return res; ------------------------------------

                                          Oops - hate to say this, but if dt.Rows.Count == 0 - i.e. the table is empty - then that code will throw an array-out-of-bounds exception. You meant else if (dt.Rows.Count <= 0), right? -- T

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