Well now I understand

Shepman

oilFactotum wrote:

Very bad analogy.

You can't simply announce something like that, you have to prove it. It would appear to me that Mr. Gaskey expresses his opinion on how and why the war should be waged succinctly and clearly. You, not so much.

BoneSoft

Or more recently, "The object of class warfare is for the poor, the dead and the cartoon characters to cast an uninformed ballot, and have the rich and powerful push their ideology upon the rest of us." - Obama in an honest alternate reality

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Shepman

oilFactotum wrote:

More bullsh*t from the king of bullsh*t.

Once again, someone with whom you disagree expresses himself clearly and certainly challenges you to explain and defend your position. This time your response is not only vulgar, it is totally off the mark. Whatever Oakman's faults are, he doesn't try to bullshit anyone.

BoneSoft

Well "roll over and take it" is a lesser strategy. Don't ya think?

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thrakazog

oilFactotum wrote:

You really think that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict can be resolved militarily?

Well sure. But to do so you have to start throwing around those buzzwords the press loves so much. Megaton, genocide, nuclear fallout, etc. Short of that there seems to be too much crazy involved for this to ever be resolved.

Ilion

EliottA wrote:

Your words smack with racism and disgust.

Cry me a river, fool.

BoneSoft

Ilíon wrote:

Allah knows, Arabs never have been good for much of anything else.

Did you ever think about where math comes from?

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Ilion

Stan Shannon wrote:

What, precisely, is that assumption based on?

If it's an assumption (and it is) then, by definition, it's not based on anything. If if were based on something, it would be a conclusion. If it were a conclusion, we could try to see how well it aligns to reality.

Oakman

BoneSoft wrote:

Did you ever think about where math comes from?

When addressing Ilion, the proper way to punctuate that sentence is to put a period after the word, "think."

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Ilion

BoneSoft wrote:

Did you ever think about where math comes from?

Not from Arabs, that's for sure. Please! That bullshit about "the golden tolerant civilization of al-Andalus which taught civilization to Europe" is lies first invented by French (atheistic) socialists (of Jewish extraction).

BoneSoft

BS. Ever heard of a movie being based on a fictional book? Does that make it a conclusion? I'll make the assumption that a meaningful response is not forthcoming, based on past observations.

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Lost User

Get an education, you're extremely stupid.

BoneSoft

While you can't say they invented it, they contributed a lot to it's beginnings. "Recent research paints a new picture of the debt that we owe to Islamic mathematics. Certainly many of the ideas which were previously thought to have been brilliant new conceptions due to European mathematicians of the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries are now known to have been developed by Arabic/Islamic mathematicians around four centuries earlier. In many respects, the mathematics studied today is far closer in style to that of Islamic mathematics than to that of Greek mathematics." J. J. O'Conner and E. F. Robertson, from the MacTutor History of Mathematics

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Reagan Conservative

Well, the gift of land for peace sure as shit didn't work! The Arabs (I refuse to call them 'Palestinians'), don't want peace --- they want Israel EXTERMINATED! You know, something like what HITLER wanted to do?? Is that OK?? If the Arabs don't want their women, children, and elderly to die, then get the hell away from Hamas! And let the Arabs deal with Hamas in bringing an end to the bloodshed. After all, who started killing who after the "land for peace"??

AF Pilot

oilFactotum

Shepman wrote:

challenges you to explain and defend your position.

Since that's not what he did, that's not how I chose to answer. I have never advocated for the destruction of Israel and he knows it.

Ilion

BoneSoft wrote:

While you can't say they invented it, they contributed a lot to it's beginnings.

Did nothing of the sort. Furthermore, if anything good did ever come out of Islamic "civilization," the probabilities are high that it wasn't actual Moslems who did it, but Christians, or Jews, or Zoroastrians, or Hindus, etc. And, of the meagre civilizational offerings of actual Moslems, the probabilities are high that they (or their fathers) were converts to the Submission DeathCult, and thus they were not fully mind-crippled in the manner of Moslems.

Ilion

EliottA wrote:

Get an education, you're extremely stupid.

As though a PC-infected non-entity like you could even recognize education.

oilFactotum

Mike Gaskey wrote:

but years lobbing rockets into Israeli civilian neighborhoods certainly does.

Well, no it doesn't.

Mike Gaskey wrote:

but I do think they'll grow a brain and see that supporting the Hamas' vermin is a losing strategy.

Why would you think that? After all By trying to weaken Fatah, Israel got Hamas in Gaza instead. Why do you think Hamas's replacement would be better? And why does this goal justify massive civilian casualties? So try this one on for size: Your country is occupied for 40 years. The occupier builds permanent settlements in the territory, They blockade you, your economy is destroyed, you are unable to work or get food or medicine. Your children are hungry, sick and uneducated. What would you do? It is not my argument that the valid grievances of the Palistinians justifies the terrorism of Hamas. But Israels valid grievences does not justify all acts of violence that they engage in.

Oakman

oilFactotum wrote:

I have never advocated for the destruction of Israel and he knows it.

Every time you claim that they shouldn't defend themselves that is exactly what you are doing. No country can permit a neighbor to fire rockets and mortars across their border indefinitely. Sooner or later they need to insure that the perpertrators are no longer capable of attacking them. That's way cities have police and nations have armies.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

BoneSoft

Oy... :doh: I forgot that you make up your own history too. Were you homeschooled by a sibling that was a year or two younger?

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