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http://www.medialens.org/alerts/index.php[^] Nice try. suppose I'll read the arguments now but I can pretty much guess what they say. So I'll just have to get out the 1 stick in response to all the ones that voted you down.
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I love that article. It points to a very serious hypocrisy. I just wish others would have the balls to point it out.
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Weird. I don't get emails telling me that you posted a reply to my posts.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
the majority of them wish to go back home, but can't
The truth is that many of them have never lived in Israel, Many Palestinians aren't even descended from people who lived in Israel. They come from Jordan but the Jordanians don't want them around any more than the Lebanese do.
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All the Palestinians that I know, and I assure you the number is quite big, was either born there or was born to parents who were born there. The third generation is starting to be. And all of them always go back to Palestine, to see their villages and where their farms, their land and their homes used to be. The one time I've ever seen my father cry was on a drive from his village named Deir Ballut (Monastery of the Oak, there used to be groves of Oak trees) towards Yafa (Israeli's name it Jaffo) and he was telling me how my grandfather, his father owned about 500 acres, groves of olives and citrus fruit, land that was confiscated and taken by the Israelis. The only reason there is a large number of Palestinians in Jordan is because it shares the largest border with Palestine and in the mass exodus that occurred in 1948 and again in 1967, it was easiest for them to escape death and annihilation there. Jordanians are 90% Palestinian and everyone is fighting tooth and nail for the right to return home.
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Stan, either have something constructive to say or go back to your conservative rightist hidey-hole. I don't care what reasons you might give, but using a weapon that instantly consumed the lives of near a quarter of a million people with the absolute overwhelming majority being civilians can be considered defense in any way and under any circumstance. I consider it a tar black spot in the history of the US.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Stan, either have something constructive to say or go back to your conservative rightist hidey-hole.
Firstly, fuck you too. Secondly...
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I don't care what reasons you might give, but using a weapon that instantly consumed the lives of near a quarter of a million people with the absolute overwhelming majority being civilians can be considered defense in any way and under any circumstance. I consider it a tar black spot in the history of the US.
No one gives a shit what you consider it... In 1945, my father-in-law was a young man preparing for the initial wave of invasion of Japan. He lived, they died. Freedom and democracy triumphed. End of story.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Stan, either have something constructive to say or go back to your conservative rightist hidey-hole.
Firstly, fuck you too. Secondly...
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I don't care what reasons you might give, but using a weapon that instantly consumed the lives of near a quarter of a million people with the absolute overwhelming majority being civilians can be considered defense in any way and under any circumstance. I consider it a tar black spot in the history of the US.
No one gives a shit what you consider it... In 1945, my father-in-law was a young man preparing for the initial wave of invasion of Japan. He lived, they died. Freedom and democracy triumphed. End of story.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Firstly, f*** you too.
I'm impressed. You maintained proper grammatical form whilst resorting to insults because you have no real comeback. Bravo. :clap clap:
Stan Shannon wrote:
No one gives a sh*t what you consider it... In 1945, my father-in-law was a young man preparing for the initial wave of invasion of Japan. He lived, they died. Freedom and democracy triumphed. End of story.
I'm glad he lived, I'm not glad with the way the American Military did it, that was the whole point of the whole damned point. Democracy and Freedom have nothing to do with the amount of force used so please be a bit more analytical. I extend the same offer to you as the one I extended ElliotA, if you can't be civil and argue/debate like a man, then either don't argue or tell me that you want a cussing match, I'll be more than happy to oblige.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Firstly, f*** you too.
I'm impressed. You maintained proper grammatical form whilst resorting to insults because you have no real comeback. Bravo. :clap clap:
Stan Shannon wrote:
No one gives a sh*t what you consider it... In 1945, my father-in-law was a young man preparing for the initial wave of invasion of Japan. He lived, they died. Freedom and democracy triumphed. End of story.
I'm glad he lived, I'm not glad with the way the American Military did it, that was the whole point of the whole damned point. Democracy and Freedom have nothing to do with the amount of force used so please be a bit more analytical. I extend the same offer to you as the one I extended ElliotA, if you can't be civil and argue/debate like a man, then either don't argue or tell me that you want a cussing match, I'll be more than happy to oblige.
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Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.
I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I extend the same offer to you as the one I extended ElliotA, if you can't be civil and argue/debate like a man, then either don't argue or tell me that you want a cussing match, I'll be more than happy to oblige.
You're the one who started insulting people. And you are also the one who is defining 'analytical' as any argument which agrees with your own prejudices.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I extend the same offer to you as the one I extended ElliotA, if you can't be civil and argue/debate like a man, then either don't argue or tell me that you want a cussing match, I'll be more than happy to oblige.
You're the one who started insulting people. And you are also the one who is defining 'analytical' as any argument which agrees with your own prejudices.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Bull. Calling you a conservative or a right-winger is insulting to you? My apologies. I didn't mean it as an insult, more a classification.
Stan Shannon wrote:
And you are also the one who is defining 'analytical' as any argument which agrees with your own prejudices.
That is as far away from the truth as calling Illion intelligent and you know it.
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unoccupied by military forces is a war crime, you needed to bold some more. IMO, I'm just glad that the US is not directly involved in this one.
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I don't really need to. Israel has been home to the Jews for, and no joke and no offense, before the Arab culture emerged. Check your history books "dude", Israel has fought how many wars against the Arab nations surround it's territory? How many times was it a draw? 0? How many times did Israel get attacked with no warning, and instead of losing, ended up conquering territory? Yeah that's right, Hamas will be no different. Israel clearly attempted to give Hamas a shot with the ceasefire that ended on the 27th. Hamas, never at one point honored their word and simply rearmed and continued to launch rockets. This is a direct result of their actions and now the supporting populous which is the Palestinian people must sit in their bed, for they have made it.
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Twice. The second time with foreknowledge that there were 100s of civilians hiding out there because it was thought to be safe.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.
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mustafa, don't get me wrong but you got to think about this. suppose hamas has a nuke would they hesitate to use it ???? israel actually has nukes. they haven't used them. i call that restraint exercised by a civilised democracy. any objections ?
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Yep.
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Bull. Calling you a conservative or a right-winger is insulting to you? My apologies. I didn't mean it as an insult, more a classification.
Stan Shannon wrote:
And you are also the one who is defining 'analytical' as any argument which agrees with your own prejudices.
That is as far away from the truth as calling Illion intelligent and you know it.
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Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.
I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Calling you a conservative or a right-winger is insulting to you?
Associating American conservatism with that old collectivist strawman "the right wing" is insulting both personally and intellectually. My politics exists on no political spectrum that ranges from Joseph Stalin to Adolph Hitler. I leave it to the collectivist to fiugre out where they are at on that spectrum, I'm not on it anywhere.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
That is as far away from the truth as calling Illion intelligent and you know it.
Than how can you say one point of view is analytical while one is not unless you are applying your own prejudices to that formulation? The bombing of Japan was purely analytical as is Israel's current operations against Hamas.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.