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  • O Oakman

    73Zeppelin wrote:

    4 and 1/2 litres of solution

    I don't know if you know this, but barium tastes better (not good, just better) if you drink it with one of those kiddy-straws that has cocoa powder inside. The doctor, of course, will think you are crazy.

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    Oakman wrote:

    I don't know if you know this, but barium tastes better (not good, just better) if you drink it with one of those kiddy-straws that has cocoa powder inside. The doctor, of course, will think you are crazy.

    In my case, polyethylene glycol with electrolytes sickly sweetened with aspartame. What goes in one end must come out the other... :rolleyes:

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      Oakman wrote:

      I don't know if you know this, but barium tastes better (not good, just better) if you drink it with one of those kiddy-straws that has cocoa powder inside. The doctor, of course, will think you are crazy.

      In my case, polyethylene glycol with electrolytes sickly sweetened with aspartame. What goes in one end must come out the other... :rolleyes:

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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      What goes in one end must come out the other...

      Making sure that happens is one of polyethylene glycol's most common uses X| . How is your wife handling this?

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      • O Oakman

        I found the latest press release from the Bank of America just too engaging not to pass on. It appears that CEO Ken Lewis, who -- four months ago -- broke his right arm patting himself on the back for snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices and doing the whole deal over a single weekend, is now getting an additional cash infusion from all of us who live or work in the States - via his good buddy and golfing partner Hank Paulson - to the tune of twenty billion up front and a guarantee against loss on bad loans made by Merril Lynch to the tune of another one hundred and eighteen fricken billion with a "B" dollars! It seems that, according to Ken, with his whirlwind aquisition from another good buddy, Stan O'Neil (ex CEO of Merril Lynch who just retired with a parachute of 161 million bucks) he bought a pig in a poke and discovered the porker was all baloney. Merril Lynch's balance sheet sucked scissors sideways. There's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot in the world of corporate finance - it's called due diligence. Theoretically, when not enough due dilligence is shown trying to identify any downside to changes in operation, heads will roll. But not, of course, if you are in that little club of friends-of-Paulson. Instead, any problems BoA might incur will be made good by you and by me. Pretty funny, huh? Ken Lewis, by the way, "vigorously disputes" the interpretation of his story that I just related. He says there was no way of knowing how badly Merril Lynch's loans would turn out when he bought it in September. This is a really great joke when you remember that he gets paid the big bucks (7.4 mil @ year) because he's supposed to be able to anticipate these things and protect the shareholders and employees from taking it on the chin. But the biggest joke of all is that Lewis just made a stock distribution to his employees as he was required to do by contract. The stock was valued at $14.17 @ share. Then he announced that BoA need more money from the Feds. Then he announced that he was cutting the dividend from 32 cents a share (last year) to 1 cent. Then he announced that for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year. . . Remember that stock worth $14.17? It is now worth $7.18. Can you imagine how the employees are laughing at the great joke Ken played? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: X|

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        I'm sure if you ask Gordon nicely he'll print you some money up, he's doing it for our banks so whats a few extra 0's between friends.

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        • O Oakman

          73Zeppelin wrote:

          What goes in one end must come out the other...

          Making sure that happens is one of polyethylene glycol's most common uses X| . How is your wife handling this?

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          She's fine. We went through this in 2006.

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          • 7 73Zeppelin

            Oakman wrote:

            - you get the real kind of man points for getting a checkup

            Thanks. The worst part of a colonoscopy (and I've been through 8 of them, to date) is the preparation. It is necessary to drink 4 and 1/2 litres of solution in 2 hours and refrain from food for over 12 hours (try it some time for fun :-D ). The actual procedure itself takes only about 15-20 minutes - and you're sedated the whole time. Like I said, the worst part is the preparation and the anxiety of waiting for test results if they find anything. Anways, I know there's some 50 years + types who read this board, so I'll say don't worry about the stigma/embarassment and just talk to your doctor about whether it's important for you to be screened (family history, change in bowel habits). Maybe I help nobody, maybe I help one person. That's the health message for the day! ;)

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            73Zeppelin wrote:

            The worst part of a colonoscopy (and I've been through 8 of them, to date) is the preparation. It is necessary to drink 4 and 1/2 litres of solution in 2 hours and refrain from food for over 12 hours (try it some time for fun ). The actual procedure itself takes only about 15-20 minutes - and you're sedated the whole time. Like I said, the worst part is the preparation and the anxiety of waiting for test results if they find anything.

            I've been through it twice now. Had a small, pre-cancerous polyp removed last time. But, yes, the preparation is absolutely the worst part. I pretty much slept through the actual procedure.

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            • O Oakman

              I found the latest press release from the Bank of America just too engaging not to pass on. It appears that CEO Ken Lewis, who -- four months ago -- broke his right arm patting himself on the back for snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices and doing the whole deal over a single weekend, is now getting an additional cash infusion from all of us who live or work in the States - via his good buddy and golfing partner Hank Paulson - to the tune of twenty billion up front and a guarantee against loss on bad loans made by Merril Lynch to the tune of another one hundred and eighteen fricken billion with a "B" dollars! It seems that, according to Ken, with his whirlwind aquisition from another good buddy, Stan O'Neil (ex CEO of Merril Lynch who just retired with a parachute of 161 million bucks) he bought a pig in a poke and discovered the porker was all baloney. Merril Lynch's balance sheet sucked scissors sideways. There's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot in the world of corporate finance - it's called due diligence. Theoretically, when not enough due dilligence is shown trying to identify any downside to changes in operation, heads will roll. But not, of course, if you are in that little club of friends-of-Paulson. Instead, any problems BoA might incur will be made good by you and by me. Pretty funny, huh? Ken Lewis, by the way, "vigorously disputes" the interpretation of his story that I just related. He says there was no way of knowing how badly Merril Lynch's loans would turn out when he bought it in September. This is a really great joke when you remember that he gets paid the big bucks (7.4 mil @ year) because he's supposed to be able to anticipate these things and protect the shareholders and employees from taking it on the chin. But the biggest joke of all is that Lewis just made a stock distribution to his employees as he was required to do by contract. The stock was valued at $14.17 @ share. Then he announced that BoA need more money from the Feds. Then he announced that he was cutting the dividend from 32 cents a share (last year) to 1 cent. Then he announced that for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year. . . Remember that stock worth $14.17? It is now worth $7.18. Can you imagine how the employees are laughing at the great joke Ken played? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: X|

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              Well, thats where an over reliance on government gets you. We conservatives have been trying to warn the rest of you guys for decades now. But would anyone listen? Nooooooo.... Oh well, it should all come crashing down soon enough now. Too much momentum propelling us towards the cliff for any hope of turning back, so I suppose it really doesn't matter.

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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              • 7 73Zeppelin

                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                That sucks, sorry man. Not too bad I hope.

                Without intentionally playing the sympathy card, it's kind of serious. As a side note: if anyone 50 years old and over reads this, I just want to mention that it's important for them to talk to their doctor about screening procedures for GI cancers. While it seems a little bit unpleasant, a simple procedure can easily save your life. Don't be embarassed to talk about it with your family doctor.

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                My fiancee's brother just went through this procedure. Turns out he has cancer. :( He's up for surgery this Wednesday. I hope he gets rid of it. He hasn't even turned 30!

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  Well, thats where an over reliance on government gets you. We conservatives have been trying to warn the rest of you guys for decades now. But would anyone listen? Nooooooo.... Oh well, it should all come crashing down soon enough now. Too much momentum propelling us towards the cliff for any hope of turning back, so I suppose it really doesn't matter.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Conservative or not. If you've got buddies within the government, its policies matters little. Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Conservative or not. If you've got buddies within the government, its policies matters little. Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                    Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

                    "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • O Oakman

                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

                      "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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                      Better be friends than foes.

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        Better be friends than foes.

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                        Oakman
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                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        Better be friends than foes.

                        Yep. You get great rates on your mortgage that way.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                          Better be friends than foes.

                          Yep. You get great rates on your mortgage that way.

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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          And in return, your money will lose value. Preferably at a steady state of 2%/year. Amazing system... Why didn't I become a banker??

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                            And in return, your money will lose value. Preferably at a steady state of 2%/year. Amazing system... Why didn't I become a banker??

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                            Oakman
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                            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            Preferably at a steady state of 2%/year

                            But inflation will insure that your tax rate goes up every year :-D

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                            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                              Conservative or not. If you've got buddies within the government, its policies matters little. Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

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                              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                              Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

                              ANother good reason to get rid of government I suppose.

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              • O Oakman

                                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

                                "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

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                                Stan Shannon
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                                Oakman wrote:

                                "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

                                SO which should we be rid of? Banks or standing armies? "A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government." -- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801 Notice, this is a comment made while actually in a policy making position, not some letter dashed off to one of his white trash buddies.

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                • S Stan Shannon

                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

                                  SO which should we be rid of? Banks or standing armies? "A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government." -- Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801 Notice, this is a comment made while actually in a policy making position, not some letter dashed off to one of his white trash buddies.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Oakman
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                                  Sorry, Stanley, I 'm just not in the mood for a food fight - and you seem incapable of anything else. Guess it's time to zap you with Diego's script. Bye.

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                                  • O Oakman

                                    I found the latest press release from the Bank of America just too engaging not to pass on. It appears that CEO Ken Lewis, who -- four months ago -- broke his right arm patting himself on the back for snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices and doing the whole deal over a single weekend, is now getting an additional cash infusion from all of us who live or work in the States - via his good buddy and golfing partner Hank Paulson - to the tune of twenty billion up front and a guarantee against loss on bad loans made by Merril Lynch to the tune of another one hundred and eighteen fricken billion with a "B" dollars! It seems that, according to Ken, with his whirlwind aquisition from another good buddy, Stan O'Neil (ex CEO of Merril Lynch who just retired with a parachute of 161 million bucks) he bought a pig in a poke and discovered the porker was all baloney. Merril Lynch's balance sheet sucked scissors sideways. There's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot in the world of corporate finance - it's called due diligence. Theoretically, when not enough due dilligence is shown trying to identify any downside to changes in operation, heads will roll. But not, of course, if you are in that little club of friends-of-Paulson. Instead, any problems BoA might incur will be made good by you and by me. Pretty funny, huh? Ken Lewis, by the way, "vigorously disputes" the interpretation of his story that I just related. He says there was no way of knowing how badly Merril Lynch's loans would turn out when he bought it in September. This is a really great joke when you remember that he gets paid the big bucks (7.4 mil @ year) because he's supposed to be able to anticipate these things and protect the shareholders and employees from taking it on the chin. But the biggest joke of all is that Lewis just made a stock distribution to his employees as he was required to do by contract. The stock was valued at $14.17 @ share. Then he announced that BoA need more money from the Feds. Then he announced that he was cutting the dividend from 32 cents a share (last year) to 1 cent. Then he announced that for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year. . . Remember that stock worth $14.17? It is now worth $7.18. Can you imagine how the employees are laughing at the great joke Ken played? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: X|

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                    A couple of points:

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                                    snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices

                                    I thought pretty much everybody was of the opinion that BOA paid too much for ML. ML was, in fact, happy that it had got such a 'good' deal.

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                                    due diligence

                                    The deal was stitched together over a weekend, at the urging of the Fed. It would have been impossible for BOA to assess ML's books completely. I know they are required to, by law, but it simply wasn't possible in the available time.

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                                    for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year

                                    BOA lost money for Q4, not all of 2008.

                                    Cheers, Vıkram.


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                                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                      My fiancee's brother just went through this procedure. Turns out he has cancer. :( He's up for surgery this Wednesday. I hope he gets rid of it. He hasn't even turned 30!

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                                      Detected early, chances of long-term survival are very high. It depends on the staging, histology, metastases or not... I hope everything goes well for him. When young (like he is and I am) this problem usually due to a genetic disorder (like a mutation in the APC tumour suppressor gene). It's been suggested that I undergo genetic testing, but I'm a little leary of privacy issues, etc...

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                                      • S Stan Shannon

                                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                        Banks and governments are usually good buddies.

                                        ANother good reason to get rid of government I suppose.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        I'd rather be ruled by people I get to vote for/against. That's just me. :shrug:

                                        -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                          A couple of points:

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                                          snapping up Merril Lynch at bargain-basement prices

                                          I thought pretty much everybody was of the opinion that BOA paid too much for ML. ML was, in fact, happy that it had got such a 'good' deal.

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                                          due diligence

                                          The deal was stitched together over a weekend, at the urging of the Fed. It would have been impossible for BOA to assess ML's books completely. I know they are required to, by law, but it simply wasn't possible in the available time.

                                          3

                                          for the first time since 1991, Bank of America lost money for the year

                                          BOA lost money for Q4, not all of 2008.

                                          Cheers, Vıkram.


                                          I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every moment of it.

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                                          Oakman
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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          everybody was of the opinion that BOA paid too much for ML

                                          You're right. I should've made it clear that Ken Lewis was saying he didn't.

                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          It would have been impossible for BOA to assess ML's books completely. I know they are required to, by law, but it simply wasn't possible in the available time.

                                          Nor did they have to worry about it since we are around to give them any money they need.

                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          BOA lost money for Q4, not all of 2008.

                                          Dead right. I was remembering rather than re-reading. They say your memory is the second thing to go. . .:confused: I forget what the first is.

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