A Sad Day For Free Speech In Italy
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So, what price Democracy when free speech is censored by Religious Pressure Group. Apparantly it is ok to say there is a God, but not ok to Deny it. Here[^] So much for the Rights enshrined in EU Law, it seems a cardinal of the catholic church can veto freedom of expression. Go, Intolerance, Go, don't allow poeple to think for themselves. Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith so that they cannot get uppity and start demanding answers that religion cannot provide!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
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So, what price Democracy when free speech is censored by Religious Pressure Group. Apparantly it is ok to say there is a God, but not ok to Deny it. Here[^] So much for the Rights enshrined in EU Law, it seems a cardinal of the catholic church can veto freedom of expression. Go, Intolerance, Go, don't allow poeple to think for themselves. Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith so that they cannot get uppity and start demanding answers that religion cannot provide!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
Are there going to be any "There's probably no Allah" buses?
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Are there going to be any "There's probably no Allah" buses?
There ought to be, but I think there probably wont!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
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There ought to be, but I think there probably wont!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
"One thing that is completely misunderstood about Islam is that it does not promote pre-emptive action nor radical reaction."[^] Methinks that radical reaction is precisely what there would be... It was interesting that the Italian message was more definite about the non-existence of god, but I think what will have troubled the church there is the second part that "the good news is you don't need him", because if enough people thought that way their power base would have crumbled. Heh heh heh...
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Are there going to be any "There's probably no Allah" buses?
Should not be, because everyone know that there's no Allah!
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Should not be, because everyone know that there's no Allah!
I'd like to disassociate myself from the previous poster...
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So, what price Democracy when free speech is censored by Religious Pressure Group. Apparantly it is ok to say there is a God, but not ok to Deny it. Here[^] So much for the Rights enshrined in EU Law, it seems a cardinal of the catholic church can veto freedom of expression. Go, Intolerance, Go, don't allow poeple to think for themselves. Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith so that they cannot get uppity and start demanding answers that religion cannot provide!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
Dalek Dave wrote:
Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith
Yes, let us brainwash them into believing there is no God.
Dalek Dave wrote:
answers that religion cannot provide
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept. There are all sorts of groups that have their own agenda, who seek to affect public policy according to their bias. Are you prepared to deny the Cardinal the right to protest a company's decision simply because you don't agree with him?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith
Yes, let us brainwash them into believing there is no God.
Dalek Dave wrote:
answers that religion cannot provide
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept. There are all sorts of groups that have their own agenda, who seek to affect public policy according to their bias. Are you prepared to deny the Cardinal the right to protest a company's decision simply because you don't agree with him?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept.
Suppose, for example, that I wish to know the molar mass of phenylalanine. Should I consult the Bible for answers?
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept.
Suppose, for example, that I wish to know the molar mass of phenylalanine. Should I consult the Bible for answers?
No, but then how does that question fit into the context of our discussion?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept.
Suppose, for example, that I wish to know the molar mass of phenylalanine. Should I consult the Bible for answers?
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No, but then how does that question fit into the context of our discussion?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
It doesn't. It's just that for a book that 'has all the answers', it's fairly light in the useful-information-department. I mean, God should've just ditched the first 15 or whatever chapters of Leviticus and explained how General and Special Relativity works.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Should I consult the Bible for answers?
Nope, but don't consult your chemistry textbook to discover why your parents put up with you, either.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
I spend too much time isolated in my bedroom for my parents to get sick of me.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith
Yes, let us brainwash them into believing there is no God.
Dalek Dave wrote:
answers that religion cannot provide
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept. There are all sorts of groups that have their own agenda, who seek to affect public policy according to their bias. Are you prepared to deny the Cardinal the right to protest a company's decision simply because you don't agree with him?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Yes, let us brainwash them into believing there is no God.
As opposed to brainwashing you that there is?
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept.
No, answers that are not believable which is somewhat different.
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Are you prepared to deny the Cardinal the right to protest a company's decision simply because you don't agree with him?
Indeed not: just dismayed at the craven and cowardly way they caved in. As per the other day: is catholocism worried that a sign on a bus will cause the worlds catholics to turn away from them? How feeble.
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I spend too much time isolated in my bedroom for my parents to get sick of me.
Still, it gets you a shed-load of geek points. Well done!
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It doesn't. It's just that for a book that 'has all the answers', it's fairly light in the useful-information-department. I mean, God should've just ditched the first 15 or whatever chapters of Leviticus and explained how General and Special Relativity works.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
It's just that for a book that 'has all the answers', it's fairly light in the useful-information-department.
With all due respect, did you ever stop to think that, at your age, you aren't qualified to decide what is useful information and what isn't? Right now you ought to be worrying less about what you filter out and more on what you can absorb. For what it's worth, I'd suggest that you might want to do a fairly detailed research on the writing and collation of both the Old and New Testaments as well as the Apocrypha. Then move on to study the history of the Semitic peoples we now call Jews. Then spend some time studying the difference between Pauline and Petrine Christianity. Who knows, you might learn something "worthwhile."
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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It doesn't. It's just that for a book that 'has all the answers', it's fairly light in the useful-information-department. I mean, God should've just ditched the first 15 or whatever chapters of Leviticus and explained how General and Special Relativity works.
This is just ignorant. The bible has the answers for the things it claims to talk about. It makes as much sense to suggest that a chemistry book is useless, because it has no information on art.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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I spend too much time isolated in my bedroom for my parents to get sick of me.
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It doesn't. It's just that for a book that 'has all the answers', it's fairly light in the useful-information-department. I mean, God should've just ditched the first 15 or whatever chapters of Leviticus and explained how General and Special Relativity works.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Leviticus and explained how General and Special Relativity works.
Yes, but then he would have had to give humanity algebra and calculus, not to mention an introductory course in Newtonian physics, which, of course, would not have been Newtonian since the man had not been born yet, as well as Maxwell's equations. And the obvious discourse on the laws of motion. And all this to some guy who's most advanced intellectual ambition was counting his goats, who would have been all like "shit, this religion crap is freaking hard, dude". Somehow I think the condensed version was more useful.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
Yes, let us brainwash them into believing there is no God.
As opposed to brainwashing you that there is?
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Or it provides answers you are not willing to accept.
No, answers that are not believable which is somewhat different.
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Are you prepared to deny the Cardinal the right to protest a company's decision simply because you don't agree with him?
Indeed not: just dismayed at the craven and cowardly way they caved in. As per the other day: is catholocism worried that a sign on a bus will cause the worlds catholics to turn away from them? How feeble.
digital man wrote:
As opposed to brainwashing you that there is?
Now you get it. Any form of presentation of views, for or against any viewpoint, can be called brainwashing, if you want to.
digital man wrote:
No, answers that are not believable which is somewhat different.
But wait, doesn't your inability to believe something imply free will, which means that the presentation of this information doesn't 'brainwash' at all, but just present a point of view that people are capable of rejecting ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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So, what price Democracy when free speech is censored by Religious Pressure Group. Apparantly it is ok to say there is a God, but not ok to Deny it. Here[^] So much for the Rights enshrined in EU Law, it seems a cardinal of the catholic church can veto freedom of expression. Go, Intolerance, Go, don't allow poeple to think for themselves. Let people be brainswashed into following a fundemental faith so that they cannot get uppity and start demanding answers that religion cannot provide!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
I think that the action to block the adverts itself, is an indication that there is no god, but a man made fairy tale. A fairy tale on which so much power is relying on, that it must be protected at all cost.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
