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A Final GW Bushism...

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    Dalek Dave
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    He said "I want history to judge me." I can't see how the past can judge him, surely the Future will judge him!

    ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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      He said "I want history to judge me." I can't see how the past can judge him, surely the Future will judge him!

      ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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      Stan Shannon
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      While I admire your tenacity at getting every last possible lash in on Bush in order to give your hopeless lefty ignorace some sort of imaginary validity, I'm actually pretty sure that particular turn of phrase is not original to him... http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001297[^]

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        While I admire your tenacity at getting every last possible lash in on Bush in order to give your hopeless lefty ignorace some sort of imaginary validity, I'm actually pretty sure that particular turn of phrase is not original to him... http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001297[^]

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        soap brain
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        I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

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          He said "I want history to judge me." I can't see how the past can judge him, surely the Future will judge him!

          ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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          Oakman
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          I'm no fan of Bush, but I picked up 330,000 hits on Google for the phrase, "history will judge."

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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            While I admire your tenacity at getting every last possible lash in on Bush in order to give your hopeless lefty ignorace some sort of imaginary validity, I'm actually pretty sure that particular turn of phrase is not original to him... http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001297[^]

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            Dalek Dave
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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            lefty ignorace

            Apart from the spelling, that is quite amusing. I am so Right Wing!

            ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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              I'm no fan of Bush, but I picked up 330,000 hits on Google for the phrase, "history will judge."

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              Dalek Dave
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              I do not deny people use the term, but, chronologically it is quite incorrect!

              ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                I do not deny people use the term, but, chronologically it is quite incorrect!

                ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                Oakman
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                I do not deny people use the term

                then how can be be a Bushism? Doesn't that imply sui generis?

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  I do not deny people use the term, but, chronologically it is quite incorrect!

                  ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                  John Carson
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  I do not deny people use the term, but, chronologically it is quite incorrect!

                  No it isn't. "History will judge" means "historians of the future (and perhaps also their students) will judge".

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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    lefty ignorace

                    Apart from the spelling, that is quite amusing. I am so Right Wing!

                    ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                    Stan Shannon
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    I am so Right Wing!

                    Sorry, to a Jeffersonian, there is no real difference.

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Because it's a conspiracy, and you're in on it, whether you want to or not!

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                        I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        The short answer is rampant dishonesty and self-delusion. The only reason it has survived dispite that is because of how powerful free market capitalism has been. Like a great Ox, it has been dragging a delapidated, wheelless wagon full of yammering eggheads and whimpering ner-do-wells (representing collectivism, of course). But the Ox is now dead, or at least close to it. And the wagon ain't going anywhere any time soon. So, it won't be much longer before someone in the wagon has to get out and start pulling. Thats when the real fun will start.

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

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                          thrakazog
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                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                          'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

                          Smelly hippies? Oh sorry. What are Smelly Hippies? Now I'll take take global warming for $500.

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                            I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

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                            chester123456
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                            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                            I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

                            because people are stupid. see, that was easy. it's a bold man who thinks he knows better how to allocate resources than the market as a whole. and by bold I mean stupid, because he can't. but they do enjoy trying.

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              I am so Right Wing!

                              Sorry, to a Jeffersonian, there is no real difference.

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Sahir Shah
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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              Sorry, to a Jeffersonian, there is no real difference.

                              Ah! you are a Jeffersonian. If you are looking to move to a Jeffersonian utopia, there is such a place: it's Afghanistan. The federal government has absolutely no power outside the capital city, throughout the land, all power is vested in the state and local goverments (a.k.a. warlords). The economy is agriculture based (mostly poppy). Just sort out your differences with them over what are the correct words of god (i.e. they accept your version or you accept theirs), grow a beard, smoke the poppy, and be happy.

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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                Sorry, to a Jeffersonian, there is no real difference.

                                Ah! you are a Jeffersonian. If you are looking to move to a Jeffersonian utopia, there is such a place: it's Afghanistan. The federal government has absolutely no power outside the capital city, throughout the land, all power is vested in the state and local goverments (a.k.a. warlords). The economy is agriculture based (mostly poppy). Just sort out your differences with them over what are the correct words of god (i.e. they accept your version or you accept theirs), grow a beard, smoke the poppy, and be happy.

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                                Oakman
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                                rolling on the floor, laughing! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                  I ask you, why does 'Leftism' still exist if it is so completely and obviously untenable?

                                  because people are stupid. see, that was easy. it's a bold man who thinks he knows better how to allocate resources than the market as a whole. and by bold I mean stupid, because he can't. but they do enjoy trying.

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                                  Oakman
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                                  chester123456 wrote:

                                  it's a bold man who thinks he knows better how to allocate resources than the market as a whole.

                                  Which is a far cry from saying that the market will do a good job - which is what any self-respecting True Believer will proclaim from the rooftops.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    I do not deny people use the term, but, chronologically it is quite incorrect!

                                    ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                                    Sahir Shah
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    I do not deny people use the term, but, chronologically it is quite incorrect!

                                    What "I want history to judge me" means : when history is written (at some point in the future) I want to be judged by what is written. This usage is correct.

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                                      chester123456 wrote:

                                      it's a bold man who thinks he knows better how to allocate resources than the market as a whole.

                                      Which is a far cry from saying that the market will do a good job - which is what any self-respecting True Believer will proclaim from the rooftops.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      Stan Shannon
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      the market will do a good job

                                      The market will not always do a good job. But it does have a built in corrective feed back mechanism, which when allowed to function freely, will always reestablish economic growth.

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Sorry, to a Jeffersonian, there is no real difference.

                                        Ah! you are a Jeffersonian. If you are looking to move to a Jeffersonian utopia, there is such a place: it's Afghanistan. The federal government has absolutely no power outside the capital city, throughout the land, all power is vested in the state and local goverments (a.k.a. warlords). The economy is agriculture based (mostly poppy). Just sort out your differences with them over what are the correct words of god (i.e. they accept your version or you accept theirs), grow a beard, smoke the poppy, and be happy.

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                                        Stan Shannon
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                                        Sahir Shah wrote:

                                        If you are looking to move to a Jeffersonian utopia, there is such a place: it's Afghanistan.

                                        Sorry, but there is obviously a great deal you do not comprehend about Jeffersonian democracy. But, don't worry, most modern Americans don't understand it either.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                          Sahir Shah wrote:

                                          If you are looking to move to a Jeffersonian utopia, there is such a place: it's Afghanistan.

                                          Sorry, but there is obviously a great deal you do not comprehend about Jeffersonian democracy. But, don't worry, most modern Americans don't understand it either.

                                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                          Shepman
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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          Sorry, but there is obviously a great deal you do not comprehend about Jeffersonian democracy. But, don't worry, most modern Americans don't understand it either.

                                          From what you have written here, I think it safe to say that the group you describe, includes you.

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