Jehovahs Witnesses
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Okay, before I start, I want to note that I'm starting this as a more light-hearted diversion to the serious debate on guns we've been having today. I am not out to offend anyone and I really shouldn't be taken seriously. So, if you're likely to be offended, based on the title and the first paragraph, please go to another thread now... ... Okay, that's those people out of the way. Now I have a question that's been plaguing me for years. David Wulff said something in another thread that just triggered it off again. Jehovas Witnesses - does anybody actually let them in? Alternatively, does anyone have a serious conversation with them? I've taunted them, told them I'm a satanist, told them that I worship the great god-king of the bee-people (I went on for five minutes then challenged them to prove their explaination is more valid than mine), I've slammed the door on them with the best of you. I even had a serious philosophical debate with a pair of Jehovahs Witnesses when I was doing a school project Market Research thing and got bored but I failed to ask the one really important question. What motivates you to do what you do? Has anyone ever had them knock on the door on a Saturday morning and said "sure, come in, have a coffee, sell god to me"? And if not then what is their motivation? What is the purpose of going door-to-door to be ridiculed at 10% and see the other 90% shut firmly before the Watchtower is out? If there's actually anyone out there who does this sort of thing, I really would like to know. I'm not trying to mock anyone, though I do find it amusing, I'm just asking the question. Paul
I have never met one myself. I remember a lady friend of mine who told a story about them once. They came striding into the garden where she and her mum were working, proclaiming them all to be sinners and would be going to hell or some such thing. I do remember she said they beat a hasty retreat from several sharp garden implements, and even sharper words. Come and preach to us in our garden, uninvited and knowing nothing about us? :mad:* * This was her, not me Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 I think I need a new quote, I am on the prowl, so look out for a soft cute furry looking animal, which is really a Hippo in disguise. Its probably me.
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I once had them knock around at 10am on New Year's Day. Not surprisingly, I had to get out of bed to answer the door. Needless to say I was not a happy bunny. Rather than just having a go at them (I think they expect that) I explained to them about Schrodinger's Cat, Quantum Mechanics and the Big Bang Theory for about half an hour or so...and they went away looking very, very, confused. :laugh: I couldn't have done it if I'd been sober though! ;P "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschClass act! :) Catch me unawares or asleep and the best I can do is shut the door on you. It's only when I see them working their way up the road that I start getting mischievous because I start worrying about their drab lives and look to brighten it up a bit. On the spot reactions, New Year's Day no less! Good for you. Paul
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I have never met one myself. I remember a lady friend of mine who told a story about them once. They came striding into the garden where she and her mum were working, proclaiming them all to be sinners and would be going to hell or some such thing. I do remember she said they beat a hasty retreat from several sharp garden implements, and even sharper words. Come and preach to us in our garden, uninvited and knowing nothing about us? :mad:* * This was her, not me Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 I think I need a new quote, I am on the prowl, so look out for a soft cute furry looking animal, which is really a Hippo in disguise. Its probably me.
:wtf::omg::wtf: Woah! I've never seen anything like this and I have to admit I wouldn't react well to it. Normally round here they're just really quiet people who walk door-to-door like salesmen. It's only the "a salesman wouldn't dare wear a suit like that in this millennium" thinking that gives them away. The most obnoxious thing they ever do is follow a "Don't ever stop mid-sentence even when directly faced with a closed door" philosophy. ... oh, and there was the bizarre conversation I had the first time I ever encountered JWs. I was 14 and opened the door to someone who started the conversation with "Hello, may I ask, do your parents allow you to have your own literature?" Bear in mind that I was a child with no life and went through about two books a week... how confused do you think I was? Then they offered me a Watchtower and I got completely lost by the whole conversation. I finally sent them on their way, knowing that nothing was free and they must be selling something - little did I know it was God - and later I found out what I'd encountered. I've been fascinated ever since. Paul
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Okay, before I start, I want to note that I'm starting this as a more light-hearted diversion to the serious debate on guns we've been having today. I am not out to offend anyone and I really shouldn't be taken seriously. So, if you're likely to be offended, based on the title and the first paragraph, please go to another thread now... ... Okay, that's those people out of the way. Now I have a question that's been plaguing me for years. David Wulff said something in another thread that just triggered it off again. Jehovas Witnesses - does anybody actually let them in? Alternatively, does anyone have a serious conversation with them? I've taunted them, told them I'm a satanist, told them that I worship the great god-king of the bee-people (I went on for five minutes then challenged them to prove their explaination is more valid than mine), I've slammed the door on them with the best of you. I even had a serious philosophical debate with a pair of Jehovahs Witnesses when I was doing a school project Market Research thing and got bored but I failed to ask the one really important question. What motivates you to do what you do? Has anyone ever had them knock on the door on a Saturday morning and said "sure, come in, have a coffee, sell god to me"? And if not then what is their motivation? What is the purpose of going door-to-door to be ridiculed at 10% and see the other 90% shut firmly before the Watchtower is out? If there's actually anyone out there who does this sort of thing, I really would like to know. I'm not trying to mock anyone, though I do find it amusing, I'm just asking the question. Paul
They knocked on the door of my friend Pauls house hte other day. I was in the sitting room with him and his father answered the door. Now they have been going around this sity showing a picture of a beautiful lake and amazing scenery... Paul's father is a brillaint gardener and has an amazing garden... the conversation went like this...: PF -> Pauls Father. JW -> :-). JW: You have a beautiful Garden. PF: Thanks you. I spend a lot of time working on it. JW: Isn't it amazing how God makes such beautiful things. PF: Sure is. JW: Who put those flowers there. PF: I did. JW: No.. but who put them there.. where did they come from. PF: The garden center over there... [pointing towards the garden centre] OK.. Sorry for being sad but at this point I split my sides laughing [:laugh::rolleyes:] and the JW decided it was time to leave. I know.. a crappy story but do I care.. no :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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They knocked on the door of my friend Pauls house hte other day. I was in the sitting room with him and his father answered the door. Now they have been going around this sity showing a picture of a beautiful lake and amazing scenery... Paul's father is a brillaint gardener and has an amazing garden... the conversation went like this...: PF -> Pauls Father. JW -> :-). JW: You have a beautiful Garden. PF: Thanks you. I spend a lot of time working on it. JW: Isn't it amazing how God makes such beautiful things. PF: Sure is. JW: Who put those flowers there. PF: I did. JW: No.. but who put them there.. where did they come from. PF: The garden center over there... [pointing towards the garden centre] OK.. Sorry for being sad but at this point I split my sides laughing [:laugh::rolleyes:] and the JW decided it was time to leave. I know.. a crappy story but do I care.. no :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)
I don't agree... excellent story. That'll keep me amused all night now, thanks.:laugh::laugh: Paul
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Okay, before I start, I want to note that I'm starting this as a more light-hearted diversion to the serious debate on guns we've been having today. I am not out to offend anyone and I really shouldn't be taken seriously. So, if you're likely to be offended, based on the title and the first paragraph, please go to another thread now... ... Okay, that's those people out of the way. Now I have a question that's been plaguing me for years. David Wulff said something in another thread that just triggered it off again. Jehovas Witnesses - does anybody actually let them in? Alternatively, does anyone have a serious conversation with them? I've taunted them, told them I'm a satanist, told them that I worship the great god-king of the bee-people (I went on for five minutes then challenged them to prove their explaination is more valid than mine), I've slammed the door on them with the best of you. I even had a serious philosophical debate with a pair of Jehovahs Witnesses when I was doing a school project Market Research thing and got bored but I failed to ask the one really important question. What motivates you to do what you do? Has anyone ever had them knock on the door on a Saturday morning and said "sure, come in, have a coffee, sell god to me"? And if not then what is their motivation? What is the purpose of going door-to-door to be ridiculed at 10% and see the other 90% shut firmly before the Watchtower is out? If there's actually anyone out there who does this sort of thing, I really would like to know. I'm not trying to mock anyone, though I do find it amusing, I'm just asking the question. Paul
pdriley wrote: And if not then what is their motivation? It's simple, fear of spending the afterlife in their version of hell. Rule #1 of religions: Our religion is right, all others are wrong. Anyone who follows another religion (or no religion) is going to [whatever hell is called]. Corrolary: If you convert someone to our religion, you get some sins pardoned, thus bringing you closer to [whatever heaven is called]. --Mike-- Proud atheist since 1972
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I once had them knock around at 10am on New Year's Day. Not surprisingly, I had to get out of bed to answer the door. Needless to say I was not a happy bunny. Rather than just having a go at them (I think they expect that) I explained to them about Schrodinger's Cat, Quantum Mechanics and the Big Bang Theory for about half an hour or so...and they went away looking very, very, confused. :laugh: I couldn't have done it if I'd been sober though! ;P "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschAnna :) wrote: I explained to them about Schrodinger's Cat, Quantum Mechanics and the Big Bang Theory for about half an hour or so...and they went away looking very, very, confused Brillaint. Confuse them so much they get headaches!!! Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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pdriley wrote: And if not then what is their motivation? It's simple, fear of spending the afterlife in their version of hell. Rule #1 of religions: Our religion is right, all others are wrong. Anyone who follows another religion (or no religion) is going to [whatever hell is called]. Corrolary: If you convert someone to our religion, you get some sins pardoned, thus bringing you closer to [whatever heaven is called]. --Mike-- Proud atheist since 1972
Okay, I get that much... I can even go some way to understanding how a religion can dictate that one person must kill people of another religion. ie. I can understand that the religious leaders have the need for control, usually in particular over the people of the target religion as well as their own people, control the people, control the land, etc, etc. I might not like it but I can see how all this comes about. What I don't understand how a religion can come to be entirely based upon sending people out in pairs to knock on people's doors ad nauseum. It makes no sense, who came up with the idea? Can you imagine the meeting? "Okay, how do we plan to take over the world?:confused:" "I have a plan.:-O" "Okay, Colin, what's your plan? Kill everyone that doesn't believe? Enslave the populace? Terrorism (KKK-style or Palestine-style)? It's all been done before.:~ " "No... much more subtle... we'll knock on their doors on a Saturday morning and try to sell them a magazine. Each one that converts can then knock on a hundred more doors, within a week we'll have a million members, within a month we'll have a billion.:cool:" "Wow! Nice idea, Colin, that's bound to work!:|" Paul
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I don't agree... excellent story. That'll keep me amused all night now, thanks.:laugh::laugh: Paul
pdriley wrote: That'll keep me amused all night now, thanks Your welcome :-) Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Okay, before I start, I want to note that I'm starting this as a more light-hearted diversion to the serious debate on guns we've been having today. I am not out to offend anyone and I really shouldn't be taken seriously. So, if you're likely to be offended, based on the title and the first paragraph, please go to another thread now... ... Okay, that's those people out of the way. Now I have a question that's been plaguing me for years. David Wulff said something in another thread that just triggered it off again. Jehovas Witnesses - does anybody actually let them in? Alternatively, does anyone have a serious conversation with them? I've taunted them, told them I'm a satanist, told them that I worship the great god-king of the bee-people (I went on for five minutes then challenged them to prove their explaination is more valid than mine), I've slammed the door on them with the best of you. I even had a serious philosophical debate with a pair of Jehovahs Witnesses when I was doing a school project Market Research thing and got bored but I failed to ask the one really important question. What motivates you to do what you do? Has anyone ever had them knock on the door on a Saturday morning and said "sure, come in, have a coffee, sell god to me"? And if not then what is their motivation? What is the purpose of going door-to-door to be ridiculed at 10% and see the other 90% shut firmly before the Watchtower is out? If there's actually anyone out there who does this sort of thing, I really would like to know. I'm not trying to mock anyone, though I do find it amusing, I'm just asking the question. Paul
Kind of OT, but it's a link I ran across a few years ago: http://www.serve.com/larryi/[^] Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
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Anna :) wrote: I explained to them about Schrodinger's Cat, Quantum Mechanics and the Big Bang Theory for about half an hour or so...and they went away looking very, very, confused Brillaint. Confuse them so much they get headaches!!! Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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Class act! :) Catch me unawares or asleep and the best I can do is shut the door on you. It's only when I see them working their way up the road that I start getting mischievous because I start worrying about their drab lives and look to brighten it up a bit. On the spot reactions, New Year's Day no less! Good for you. Paul
pdriley wrote: Class act! Catch me unawares or asleep and the best I can do is shut the door on you. It's only when I see them working their way up the road that I start getting mischievous because I start worrying about their drab lives and look to brighten it up a bit. On the spot reactions, New Year's Day no less! Good for you. Hehe thanks Paul. :-O I just find closed minded people so irritating - faith is one thing, but behaving like a sheep is quite another...and Jehovahs seem to be one of the biggest bunch of sheep around. Sad but true. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Okay, before I start, I want to note that I'm starting this as a more light-hearted diversion to the serious debate on guns we've been having today. I am not out to offend anyone and I really shouldn't be taken seriously. So, if you're likely to be offended, based on the title and the first paragraph, please go to another thread now... ... Okay, that's those people out of the way. Now I have a question that's been plaguing me for years. David Wulff said something in another thread that just triggered it off again. Jehovas Witnesses - does anybody actually let them in? Alternatively, does anyone have a serious conversation with them? I've taunted them, told them I'm a satanist, told them that I worship the great god-king of the bee-people (I went on for five minutes then challenged them to prove their explaination is more valid than mine), I've slammed the door on them with the best of you. I even had a serious philosophical debate with a pair of Jehovahs Witnesses when I was doing a school project Market Research thing and got bored but I failed to ask the one really important question. What motivates you to do what you do? Has anyone ever had them knock on the door on a Saturday morning and said "sure, come in, have a coffee, sell god to me"? And if not then what is their motivation? What is the purpose of going door-to-door to be ridiculed at 10% and see the other 90% shut firmly before the Watchtower is out? If there's actually anyone out there who does this sort of thing, I really would like to know. I'm not trying to mock anyone, though I do find it amusing, I'm just asking the question. Paul
Whenever I think of the Jehovas Witness crowd, I am always reminded of this Simpsons episode. Classic. :)
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Kind of OT, but it's a link I ran across a few years ago: http://www.serve.com/larryi/[^] Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
Jon Sagara wrote: Red Swingline Staplers The mind boggles. :eek:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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Whenever I think of the Jehovas Witness crowd, I am always reminded of this Simpsons episode. Classic. :)
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SIMON WALTON
SONORK ID 100.10024Ah yes, I remember the Movementarians. They were a cross between JW's, those guys on American television, and "that religion that cannot be named for legal reasons" *cough* $cientology *cough*. :suss: It was a very good episode. :)
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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I once had them knock around at 10am on New Year's Day. Not surprisingly, I had to get out of bed to answer the door. Needless to say I was not a happy bunny. Rather than just having a go at them (I think they expect that) I explained to them about Schrodinger's Cat, Quantum Mechanics and the Big Bang Theory for about half an hour or so...and they went away looking very, very, confused. :laugh: I couldn't have done it if I'd been sober though! ;P "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschYou didn't forget to explain both special and general theory of relativity did you? You can't just let them leave with half the truth! ;) Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!
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pdriley wrote: And if not then what is their motivation? It's simple, fear of spending the afterlife in their version of hell. Rule #1 of religions: Our religion is right, all others are wrong. Anyone who follows another religion (or no religion) is going to [whatever hell is called]. Corrolary: If you convert someone to our religion, you get some sins pardoned, thus bringing you closer to [whatever heaven is called]. --Mike-- Proud atheist since 1972
Right on! Michael Dunn wrote: Proud atheist since 1972 Since '75 here. Spread the word brother! ;) Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!
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Jon Sagara wrote: Red Swingline Staplers The mind boggles. :eek:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
Excuse me, I believe you have my stapler... I'm going to set the building on fire... That's it... that's the last straw... :-D Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
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You didn't forget to explain both special and general theory of relativity did you? You can't just let them leave with half the truth! ;) Preferred storyline: - I am your father. Search your feelings and you'll know it's the truth. Together we can rule this galaxy like father and son. - Ok dad. Let's kick some butt!
I think I'd confused them enough already by that point... ;) Besides which I can do Quantum Theory and Schrodinger's Cat while hungover, (they're wierd enough to make sense in that state) but I have to think about Relativity. "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Kind of OT, but it's a link I ran across a few years ago: http://www.serve.com/larryi/[^] Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
For want of a more (less?) appropriate phrase... Holy Crap! We really do get weak-assed JWs around our area, these guys are hardcore. The Antichrist is anyone who denys what the bible says about christ? DUDE! I'd often wondered about myself. Ya know what? I don't think I'll be asking such questions in their chatroom. This was supposed to be amusing, now I'm kinda scared :omg: Paul