WTF is going on in the minds of these twats...Children taken from Grandparents to be given to gay couple

[Dalek Dave]

See Here[^] I am not prejudiced, please do not think this, but to take children from family and give them to strangers beggars belief. I am forty two, am I two old to be a parent? Who dared do this, and I can tell you if it was my family I would be up in arms over it.

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[Lost User]

That is dreadful. To take kids away from a loving familly on this basis is totally immoral.

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

[R Giskard Reventlov]

Agreed: this is bullying of the very worst kind: hopefully the publicity being generated will shame the council into taking a more sensible view. Social workers have far too much power which they appear to apply in a very strange way: cast your mind back to all of the cases of children coming to harm and social services not intervening when, clearly, they should have. There needs to be a root and branch review: taking children from a stable, loving environment is plainly wrong.

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[Andy_L_J]

F***ing Nanny State - Butt the F**k Out.:mad: That is all.

I don't speak Illidiot - please talk slowly and clearly

[Baconbutty]

I have medication for diabetes and I am 47. I'd best get home quick and I may have a chance to wave my kids goodbye before they are ripped from my hands. Someone in Edinburgh needs their arse kicking and then all social workers concerned be paraded through the streets and be pubicly humiliated. Then sacked. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea clearly has shit for brains.

My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

[John Carson]

This may be an outrage, but we have heard the story from the side of the grandparents. There may be another side. I note that the situation came about because the grandparents own daughter is now a "recovering heroin addict" unable to care for her children. This suggests that just maybe the grandparents have some other issues of their own that make them less than ideal parents.

John Carson

[Dalek Dave]

I still can't condone removal of children from family. All we have in the world is Family.

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

[John Carson]

Dalek Dave wrote:

I still can't condone removal of children from family.

Never? Not under any circumstances? I think the evidence is pretty clear that keeping families together generally gives the best outcomes, but some families are so bad that separation is necessary.

John Carson

[Dalek Dave]

There are, of course, exceptions, but generally family is best.

------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

[Ennis Ray Lynch Jr]

If someone ever attempted to remove my kids from my house they would get a bullet for their effort.

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[Stan Shannon]

John Carson wrote:

I think the evidence is pretty clear that keeping families together generally gives the best outcomes, but some families are so bad that separation is necessary.

The problem however is that the bureaucracy ultimately only has a vested interest in its own existence, not the families existence. Give such bureaucraies enough power and they will be splitting families up over any excuse merely to justify their own existence. Families with problems are a community issue and should be handled locally by the community itself with the government getting ivnovled as only a last resort if actual laws are being broken. So, unless getting old has become against the law, this should not have happened.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.