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  • H hairy_hats

    Campaigners claim that new extreme porn laws could make some comics illegal[^] in the UK.

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    Dalek Dave
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    I was talking to Steve Dillon about this, (He is the Artist that draws Wolverine), and he says that some of his slash and gore will have to toned down a little, and he is deeply offended. He is selling a fantasy, not reality and why should censorship intrude upon art. I agree with him. Should we put fig leaves on all the great art? Surely if you may be offended, the answer is simple, don't look!

    ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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    • H hairy_hats

      Campaigners claim that new extreme porn laws could make some comics illegal[^] in the UK.

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      This country is third-world socialist shit-hole without the benefit of a warm climate or odour free public transport. When practical I shall leave.

      me, me, me

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        This country is third-world socialist shit-hole without the benefit of a warm climate or odour free public transport. When practical I shall leave.

        me, me, me

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        digital man wrote:

        without the benefit of a warm climate or odour free public transport

        :laugh:

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        • H hairy_hats

          Campaigners claim that new extreme porn laws could make some comics illegal[^] in the UK.

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          RichardGrimmer
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          That's one of the most ridiculous and ill-thought out pieces of legislation I've ever encountered. For me, the telling point is that it could be illegal to have a photograph of yourself engaged in a completely legal activity....

          C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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          • H hairy_hats

            Campaigners claim that new extreme porn laws could make some comics illegal[^] in the UK.

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            KaRl
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            This law is so vague it could be used to forbid many things. Bloody puritans.

            Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!

            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              This country is third-world socialist shit-hole without the benefit of a warm climate or odour free public transport. When practical I shall leave.

              me, me, me

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              KaRl
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              digital man wrote:

              This country is third-world socialist sh*t-hole

              It wouldn't deal with 'obscenity' then, 'decency' is a right wing fad.

              Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Syndicalism is the opposite. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                digital man wrote:

                This country is third-world socialist sh*t-hole

                It wouldn't deal with 'obscenity' then, 'decency' is a right wing fad.

                Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Syndicalism is the opposite. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                Ka?l wrote:

                It wouldn't deal with 'obscenity' then.

                You need to familiarise yourself with Shari'a Law. Otherwise you might find yourself being unintentionally hilarious - like now.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                  Ka?l wrote:

                  It wouldn't deal with 'obscenity' then.

                  You need to familiarise yourself with Shari'a Law. Otherwise you might find yourself being unintentionally hilarious - like now.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                  KaRl
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                  Oakman wrote:

                  Shari'a Law

                  Woah, what an example of socialism!

                  When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                  Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                  • K KaRl

                    Oakman wrote:

                    Shari'a Law

                    Woah, what an example of socialism!

                    When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    Ka?l wrote:

                    Woah, what an example of socialism!

                    Many Muslim states are, or claim to be, socialist. Are you under the impression that socialism only flourishes in societies where Christianity is or was dominant? If that's the case, you really need to get out more.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                    • K KaRl

                      digital man wrote:

                      This country is third-world socialist sh*t-hole

                      It wouldn't deal with 'obscenity' then, 'decency' is a right wing fad.

                      Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Syndicalism is the opposite. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                      Ka?l wrote:

                      'decency' is a right wing fad.

                      After a few thousand years, doesn't it graduate from "fad" to something else?


                      Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                        Ka?l wrote:

                        Woah, what an example of socialism!

                        Many Muslim states are, or claim to be, socialist. Are you under the impression that socialism only flourishes in societies where Christianity is or was dominant? If that's the case, you really need to get out more.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                        KaRl
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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Many Muslim states are, or claim to be, socialist.

                        Those states don't apply the Sharia - and those states face islamist oppositions, oppositions who want to apply the Sharia. You're wrong - once again.

                        Jouir et faire jouir sans faire de mal ni à toi ni à personne, voilà je crois le fondement de toute morale Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                          Ka?l wrote:

                          'decency' is a right wing fad.

                          After a few thousand years, doesn't it graduate from "fad" to something else?


                          Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                          KaRl
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                          If you've got a better translation for 'marotte' I take it.

                          Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                            Ka?l wrote:

                            Woah, what an example of socialism!

                            Many Muslim states are, or claim to be, socialist. Are you under the impression that socialism only flourishes in societies where Christianity is or was dominant? If that's the case, you really need to get out more.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            Are you under the impression that socialism only flourishes in societies where Christianity is or was dominant?

                            Exactly. In fact, Antonio Gramsci wrote that to socialize cultures that were predominantly Christian, you would have to destroy religion because it and social morals are the main obsticles to segregating a population into classes, which of course is necessary for there to be a proletariat uprising. Those two things give classes too much in comon that they can all relate to.


                            Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                              I was talking to Steve Dillon about this, (He is the Artist that draws Wolverine), and he says that some of his slash and gore will have to toned down a little, and he is deeply offended. He is selling a fantasy, not reality and why should censorship intrude upon art. I agree with him. Should we put fig leaves on all the great art? Surely if you may be offended, the answer is simple, don't look!

                              ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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                              Didn't the church at one point have leaves painted over the paintings in the 16th Chapel?

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                Are you under the impression that socialism only flourishes in societies where Christianity is or was dominant?

                                Exactly. In fact, Antonio Gramsci wrote that to socialize cultures that were predominantly Christian, you would have to destroy religion because it and social morals are the main obsticles to segregating a population into classes, which of course is necessary for there to be a proletariat uprising. Those two things give classes too much in comon that they can all relate to.


                                Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                With all due respect to opposing points of view, I have never seen a laissez-faire capitalist society, nor a totally socialist society. I have seen Capitalism flourish under the worst dictatorships imaginable (ones that maintained at least a nominal Christianity) and I have seen Socialism proclaimed as the law of the land by equally reprehensible dictators who claimed to be warriors of Islam. In my most humble opinion, in religion, in politics, in economic theory, and probably everything else, there are two groups. Those who think that there are people who have or should have the right to use force to tell others what to do and how to do it (always for their own good of course) and those who think that a legal, religious, social concept that must be enforced by the use of police is an abomination. And no, I've never seen nor heard of a society where power didn't come from the barrel of a gun, either. :sigh:

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                • K KaRl

                                  If you've got a better translation for 'marotte' I take it.

                                  Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                  Ka?l wrote:

                                  If you've got a better translation for 'marotte' I take it.

                                  In English that means "fool's head" as in what is stuck on a spring in a Jack-in-the-Box.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                    Ka?l wrote:

                                    If you've got a better translation for 'marotte' I take it.

                                    In English that means "fool's head" as in what is stuck on a spring in a Jack-in-the-Box.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                    KaRl
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                                    The word is borrowed from the French, where it signifies either a fool's (literal) bauble, or a fad/craze.[^]

                                    Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!

                                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                      Didn't the church at one point have leaves painted over the paintings in the 16th Chapel?

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                                      Pope Clement XIII was the one! He asked for Fig Leaves to be carved and placed on the genitalia of all the statues, because he felt that the human body was rude and he was a prude! What an Arse!

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                                      • K KaRl

                                        The word is borrowed from the French, where it signifies either a fool's (literal) bauble, or a fad/craze.[^]

                                        Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!

                                        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                        Oakman
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                                        Ka?l wrote:

                                        The word is borrowed from the French

                                        You asked for the translation did you not? Why would anyone care what the French thought? Approximately 1/3rd of all the words in English are loan words from a latinate language. In all cases, what matters in not what the original meaning was but what it means now, in English.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                          Ka?l wrote:

                                          The word is borrowed from the French

                                          You asked for the translation did you not? Why would anyone care what the French thought? Approximately 1/3rd of all the words in English are loan words from a latinate language. In all cases, what matters in not what the original meaning was but what it means now, in English.

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                          KaRl
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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          You asked for the translation did you not?

                                          You did not provide one, you just gave the signification of the corresponding english word. That is not translation.

                                          I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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