It's about time!
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
no.
no? You sound like a Republican... oh, wait. The Audacity of Nope.[^] ;P
"Republicans run for office saying that the government doesn't work, then they get elected, and they prove it." -- Al Franken
Al Beback wrote:
You sound like a Republican
I'm a registered Democrat.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Rob Graham wrote:
don't mind transferring money from your pocket (tax dollars) to executive bonu
I do. It shouldn't happen. Sent emails to our two senators complaining about it. But those that took the money are no longer really truley commercial entities anymore. They have started journey down the wide road that Fannie May and Freddie Mac have completed. It is what it is. I can write my representatives and send money to conservative canidates, I can do nothing more.
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
MrPlankton wrote:
It is what it is. I can write my representatives and send money to conservative canidates, I can do nothing more.
Suppose Spartacus had said that.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
no.
no? You sound like a Republican... oh, wait. The Audacity of Nope.[^] ;P
"Republicans run for office saying that the government doesn't work, then they get elected, and they prove it." -- Al Franken
If Republicans can't have a perfect bill to stimulate the economy, they'd rather have no economy at all Works for me...
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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MrPlankton wrote:
It is what it is. I can write my representatives and send money to conservative canidates, I can do nothing more.
Suppose Spartacus had said that.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
Suppose Spartacus had said that.
Hey, any time you want to start the bloody revolt, the rest of us will be right behind you, Sparty.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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MrPlankton wrote:
It is what it is. I can write my representatives and send money to conservative canidates, I can do nothing more.
Suppose Spartacus had said that.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Well ok, I can yet still be crucified for my opinions... :~ (now this is were Zeplin73, Karl and Ed for the first time give me a 5)
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
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Oakman wrote:
Suppose Spartacus had said that.
Hey, any time you want to start the bloody revolt, the rest of us will be right behind you, Sparty.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Well ok, I can yet still be crucified for my opinions... :~ (now this is were Zeplin73, Karl and Ed for the first time give me a 5)
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
MrPlankton wrote:
I can yet still be crucified for my opinions
Cross your legs, I only have one nail left.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Oakman wrote:
Suppose Spartacus had said that.
Hey, any time you want to start the bloody revolt, the rest of us will be right behind you, Sparty.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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MrPlankton wrote:
I can yet still be crucified for my opinions
Cross your legs, I only have one nail left.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
:)
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
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MrPlankton wrote:
I can yet still be crucified for my opinions
Cross your legs, I only have one nail left.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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So basically you're saying that the government should attach no strings whatsoever to the use of the billions of dollars these street beggars have taken? These companies took that money with full knowledge that it would give the government control over how it was used. If they don't like it, then they are free to give the money back.
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FFS! This is the 'civilised' world?
Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.
Trollslayer wrote:
'civilised' world?
Looking forward to that time. Just linked to happenings in this part of the world.
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
let us construct an agreement after the fact.
After spending umpty-ump years dealing with corporate suits, I assure you that they are quite accustomed to changing the rules half-way through the game. The only problem they will have is that this time they're on the bottom, not the top.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
I have a few of my own I'd like to reconstruct.
Run for the Senate. ;)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
Run for the Senate.
Julius Malema[^], was recently pushed as an EMP, now everybody has a reason to run. X|
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This is a tough call. It seems to me that getting the government to force people who didn't want to buy your lousy products in the first place, or who acatually lost money on your insane business practices, to give billions of dollars to your company anyway deserve's a bonus of some kind. Thats some damn good management right there, now. I mean, hell, I'd just as soon the business guys get it as the politicians. What possibly difference should it make to me?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
What difference does it make to you Stan?
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1. The government needs to keep its nose out of corporate pay issues, it isn't any of their business unless elected to the board and on the compensation committee. 2. Then the most obvious, the government needs to let failing businesses fail. If #2 is followed, #1 becomes a non-issue. Frankly I don't agree with the pay levels and bonuses these folks get, common sense should tell "you" that unless you can raise the dead or lay on hands to cure the ill: you value is somewhat limited - but that is an issue for share holders.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
the government needs to let failing businesses fail.
if the government does nothing it will start a chain reaction of failures. where will it stop ?
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What difference does it make to you Stan?
Brady Kelly wrote:
What difference does it make to you Stan?
None at all. The money I worked for is, in one way or another, being forceably confiscated and used for reasons I disapprove of. This epidosde represents a lot more than merely a collapse of our economic system, it represents the complete collapse of western liberal democratic ideals altogether. For our system to work, there must be honesty and intergrity somewhere. But there is not, not in business and not in government. Our civilization has failed completely. Thats the difference it makes to me. Compared to that, worrying about who is getting what is ludicrous.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
the government needs to let failing businesses fail.
if the government does nothing it will start a chain reaction of failures. where will it stop ?
If left alone, it would have stopped naturally where it should have stopped to take out all the corruption and incompetence, all by itself. It would have been a painful process, but it would have had a bottom. Now we have simply traded a lot of little failures for one big one. The entire problem started with the bundling of subprime loans into ever larger and larger bundles, all the government has done is to create the largest possible bundle of all. Now, we have all become pulled into that mess, regardless of how responsibly we handled our own personnal finances. We responsible citizens are the greatest suckers of all time.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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MrPlankton wrote:
I wonder.
What bothers me is that the NRA isn't reporting an equal boom in gun-safety classes. If that means that folks who know what they are doing are just buying a backup that's fine. If, as I suspect, it means that a whole bunch of nutjobs are keeping a loaded revolver in the kitchen drawer, we're going to be reading about a lot of schools being shot up when the weather gets warm.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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If left alone, it would have stopped naturally where it should have stopped to take out all the corruption and incompetence, all by itself. It would have been a painful process, but it would have had a bottom. Now we have simply traded a lot of little failures for one big one. The entire problem started with the bundling of subprime loans into ever larger and larger bundles, all the government has done is to create the largest possible bundle of all. Now, we have all become pulled into that mess, regardless of how responsibly we handled our own personnal finances. We responsible citizens are the greatest suckers of all time.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
If left alone, it would have stopped naturally where it should have stopped to take out all the corruption and incompetence, all by itself. It would have been a painful process, but it would have had a bottom.
What bottom ? Collapse of human civilisation as we know it ? Wipe the slate clean and start all over again ? Human civilisation is something we built over thousands of years. I wouldn't want to conduct that kind of experiment to see if it recovers half way down or hit's rock bottom and takes us back to the stone age. You are probably looking forward to living in caves, hitting women over the head with a club and dragging them off to your cave. That is what you really want, isn't it?
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