The Bush Memorial Shoe
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Stan Shannon wrote:
some equally well heeled lefty Bush hater
There are so many of them, aren't there, Stan? Do you check each night to see if any are hiding under your bed?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
Do you check each night to see if any are hiding under your bed?
Heheheh!!
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Stan Shannon wrote:
some equally well heeled lefty Bush hater
There are so many of them, aren't there, Stan? Do you check each night to see if any are hiding under your bed?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Anybody know how I can get rid of that pink elephant hiding under my bed ?
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Anybody know how I can get rid of that pink elephant hiding under my bed ?
Sahir Shah wrote:
Anybody know how I can get rid of that pink elephant hiding under my bed ?
Curious, Stan only sees Red Donkies under his. . .
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Sahir Shah wrote:
Anybody know how I can get rid of that pink elephant hiding under my bed ?
Curious, Stan only sees Red Donkies under his. . .
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
Stan only sees Red
Period.
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Oakman wrote:
Stan only sees Red
Period.
I'd say the last couple of months has pretty much validated that perspective.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
eorge Soros, or some equally well heeled lefty Bush hater.
I think the lefties hate him because he was a recession denier[^] for far too long. If they had acted in time, some of this could have been averted.
modified on Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:42 AM
Sahir Shah wrote:
I think the lefties hate him because he was a recession denier[^] for far too long.
Just for the sake of argument, I don't think he was denying any recessions in 2000, but I could be wrong. Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.
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Sahir Shah wrote:
I think the lefties hate him because he was a recession denier[^] for far too long.
Just for the sake of argument, I don't think he was denying any recessions in 2000, but I could be wrong. Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.
I've hated him all along.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one
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'The president, appearing sceptical, urged Congress to let last month's tax rebates "have a chance to kick in". ' It would seem that the primary purpose of the tax rebates was to give enough of a boost to the economy to make the crash that Bush, Paulson, and friends saw coming hold off until after January 20th. Unfortunately, just as Bush refused to spend the money needed to buy the weapons we needed to occupy Iraq, he reused to spend enough money to hold the debacle off until he was out of office (and could sell off his stocks.)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
Unfortunately, just as Bush refused to spend the money needed to buy the weapons we needed to occupy Iraq, he reused to spend enough money to hold the debacle off until he was out of office
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Sahir Shah wrote:
I think the lefties hate him because he was a recession denier[^] for far too long.
Just for the sake of argument, I don't think he was denying any recessions in 2000, but I could be wrong. Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.
RichardM1 wrote:
Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
They probably hated him before that for being a righty.
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Oakman wrote:
Unfortunately, just as Bush refused to spend the money needed to buy the weapons we needed to occupy Iraq, he reused to spend enough money to hold the debacle off until he was out of office
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Winning Elections. Keeping the costs down at any price to our soldiers seemed to be an administration priority before the 2004 election - you think maybe getting reelected had something to do with it? Postponing the crash would have been a great favor to John McCain. Even you might remember that until the economy blew up in our face, McCain was running neck and neck with Obama.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
modified on Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:12 AM
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Sahir Shah wrote:
I think the lefties hate him because he was a recession denier[^] for far too long.
Just for the sake of argument, I don't think he was denying any recessions in 2000, but I could be wrong. Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
Silver member by constant and unflinching longevity.
RichardM1 wrote:
Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
In 2002 Bush had a 90% positive rating by the American people. Either "true lefties" represent only 10% of the population or it was Bush's actions and not some knee-jerk reaction to Republicans that caused him to lose the approval of 65% of America. Certainly the recognition of the incompetence of the Bush Administration was well underway more than two or three years ago, but a lot of it can be traced back to the governmental response to Katrina on August 29th, 2005. "You're doing a great job, Brownie!" turned out to be words that would come to haunt him far more than his word flubs ever did.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Oakman wrote:
Unfortunately, just as Bush refused to spend the money needed to buy the weapons we needed to occupy Iraq, he reused to spend enough money to hold the debacle off until he was out of office
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Who suggested either you or he was sane?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Who suggested either you or he was sane?
Rob Graham wrote:
Who suggested either you or he was sane?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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RichardM1 wrote:
Or do you think they only started hating him in the last 2 or 3 years?
In 2002 Bush had a 90% positive rating by the American people. Either "true lefties" represent only 10% of the population or it was Bush's actions and not some knee-jerk reaction to Republicans that caused him to lose the approval of 65% of America. Certainly the recognition of the incompetence of the Bush Administration was well underway more than two or three years ago, but a lot of it can be traced back to the governmental response to Katrina on August 29th, 2005. "You're doing a great job, Brownie!" turned out to be words that would come to haunt him far more than his word flubs ever did.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Winning Elections. Keeping the costs down at any price to our soldiers seemed to be an administration priority before the 2004 election - you think maybe getting reelected had something to do with it? Postponing the crash would have been a great favor to John McCain. Even you might remember that until the economy blew up in our face, McCain was running neck and neck with Obama.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
modified on Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:12 AM
Oakman wrote:
Keeping the costs down at any price to our soldiers seemed to be an administration priority before the 2004 election - you think maybe getting reelected had something to do with it?
That doesn't make any sense at all. He was getting hammered for not having our forces properly prepared (which wasn't true to begin with. Our force that went into Iraq was better prepared than any force we have ever sent anywhere).
Oakman wrote:
Postponing the crash would have been a great favor to John McCain. Even you might remember that until the economy blew up in our face, McCain was running neck and neck with Obama.
You are actually trying to suggest that the Bush administration cleverly tried to keep the economy going until some predetermined point in the future? Thats fucking insane, Jon.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
modified on Sunday, February 1, 2009 12:29 PM
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Stan Shannon wrote:
What sane reason would he have had to do either one of those?
Who suggested either you or he was sane?
At least I don't suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome[^].
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Keeping the costs down at any price to our soldiers seemed to be an administration priority before the 2004 election - you think maybe getting reelected had something to do with it?
That doesn't make any sense at all. He was getting hammered for not having our forces properly prepared (which wasn't true to begin with. Our force that went into Iraq was better prepared than any force we have ever sent anywhere).
Oakman wrote:
Postponing the crash would have been a great favor to John McCain. Even you might remember that until the economy blew up in our face, McCain was running neck and neck with Obama.
You are actually trying to suggest that the Bush administration cleverly tried to keep the economy going until some predetermined point in the future? Thats fucking insane, Jon.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
modified on Sunday, February 1, 2009 12:29 PM
Stan Shannon wrote:
Our force that went into Iraq was better prepared than any force we have ever sent anywhere
One of Goebbels big lies in action. Your claim was controverted - at the time Bush was shortchanging the troops - by Generals testifying under oath and by John McCain. Even Rumsfeld found only the weak excuse, "sometimes you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want." You try so hard to rewrite history, Stan, but all you end up doing is looking like a fool.
Stan Shannon wrote:
You are actually trying to suggest that the Bush administration cleverly tried to keep the economy going until some predetermined point in the future?
Yes. I am glad you finally understand what I am saying. It only took me two tries to get through to you this time.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Thats f***ing insane, Jon
I agree, but that seems to be what he did. By the way, you can have the last word. I've made my point and you can yammer all your buzzwords as long as you wish. I've got more important things to read - like my laundry list.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Our force that went into Iraq was better prepared than any force we have ever sent anywhere
One of Goebbels big lies in action. Your claim was controverted - at the time Bush was shortchanging the troops - by Generals testifying under oath and by John McCain. Even Rumsfeld found only the weak excuse, "sometimes you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want." You try so hard to rewrite history, Stan, but all you end up doing is looking like a fool.
Stan Shannon wrote:
You are actually trying to suggest that the Bush administration cleverly tried to keep the economy going until some predetermined point in the future?
Yes. I am glad you finally understand what I am saying. It only took me two tries to get through to you this time.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Thats f***ing insane, Jon
I agree, but that seems to be what he did. By the way, you can have the last word. I've made my point and you can yammer all your buzzwords as long as you wish. I've got more important things to read - like my laundry list.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
One of Goebbels big lies in action. Your claim was controverted - at the time Bush was shortchanging the troops - by Generals testifying under oath and by John McCain. Even Rumsfeld found only the weak excuse, "sometimes you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want." You try so hard to rewrite history, Stan, but all you end up doing is looking like a fool.
And of course any actual historic comparison would be out of the question. Would you, for example, consider the force we entered WWII with adequately prepared and equipped? The notion that our modern Army was supposed to be equally ready for both destroying a conventional opponent and a well equipped and funded insurgency is completely stupid. For a guy who claims to have served in the military, you seem woefully lacking in any basic military frame of reference.
Oakman wrote:
Yes. I am glad you finally understand what I am saying. It only took me two tries to get through to you this time. Stan Shannon wrote: Thats f***ing insane, Jon I agree, but that seems to be what he did.
I see.
Oakman wrote:
By the way, you can have the last word. I've made my point and you can yammer all your buzzwords as long as you wish. I've got more important things to read - like my laundry list.
Yeah, running away when you're getting your ass kicked seems to be in your nature.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
One of Goebbels big lies in action. Your claim was controverted - at the time Bush was shortchanging the troops - by Generals testifying under oath and by John McCain. Even Rumsfeld found only the weak excuse, "sometimes you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want." You try so hard to rewrite history, Stan, but all you end up doing is looking like a fool.
And of course any actual historic comparison would be out of the question. Would you, for example, consider the force we entered WWII with adequately prepared and equipped? The notion that our modern Army was supposed to be equally ready for both destroying a conventional opponent and a well equipped and funded insurgency is completely stupid. For a guy who claims to have served in the military, you seem woefully lacking in any basic military frame of reference.
Oakman wrote:
Yes. I am glad you finally understand what I am saying. It only took me two tries to get through to you this time. Stan Shannon wrote: Thats f***ing insane, Jon I agree, but that seems to be what he did.
I see.
Oakman wrote:
By the way, you can have the last word. I've made my point and you can yammer all your buzzwords as long as you wish. I've got more important things to read - like my laundry list.
Yeah, running away when you're getting your ass kicked seems to be in your nature.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Yeah, running away when you're getting your ass kicked seems to be in your nature.
You are just like Hamas in Gaza - you get beat up, bitch-slapped, and kicked while you're down, but when the other guy walks away you claim victory. :laugh:
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Yeah, running away when you're getting your ass kicked seems to be in your nature.
You are just like Hamas in Gaza - you get beat up, bitch-slapped, and kicked while you're down, but when the other guy walks away you claim victory. :laugh:
Shepman wrote:
You are just like Hamas in Gaza - you get beat up, bitch-slapped, and kicked while you're down, but when the other guy walks away you claim victory.
Simply because you agree with someone does not translate into that opinion being correct. I maintain that, historically speaking, the force we entered Iraq with was better prepared for its mission than was any similar force our country ever started any war with. If that is not true, than it should be easy for you to refute it rather than patting yourself on the back for doing absolutely nothing. You have yet to make an actual point about anything. You basically follow Jon around going "me too! me too!"
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.