Ammunition is pretty scarce [modified]
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Oakman wrote:
Why do you consider it important?
Because it is a quintessentially social issue. It is a perfect example of how our culture is being defined for us by an oligarchy (which you easily dismiss because, well gee, after all, we have always been an oligarchy :rolleyes: )
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Because it is a quintessentially social issue
So are blue laws or if it's homosexuality that frosts your cookies so are civil unions. Or if its marriage you want to talk about, so is miscegenation. Yet you seem to focus in on a specific form of sexuality that is practiced according to some studies by around 10% of all heterosexuals and 25% of college age heteros. And which is not practiced, regardless of what you believe, by all male homosexuals.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But those are just for the extraterrestrials
Of course. But France was taken over by Ganymedians back in the '80's.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
But France was taken over by Ganymedians back in the '80's.
Ah hah! I knew it! I kept telling people that those Frenchies couldn't possibly be human, but they rebuffed me. I was being silly, they said. GROW UP, THEY SAID! :mad:
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:laugh: LMAO! You are a funny little kid. :doh:
Um...OK...? :~:confused:
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Um...OK...? :~:confused:
You still have a lot to grasp.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Because it is a quintessentially social issue
So are blue laws or if it's homosexuality that frosts your cookies so are civil unions. Or if its marriage you want to talk about, so is miscegenation. Yet you seem to focus in on a specific form of sexuality that is practiced according to some studies by around 10% of all heterosexuals and 25% of college age heteros. And which is not practiced, regardless of what you believe, by all male homosexuals.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
Or if its marriage you want to talk about, so is miscegenation. Yet you seem to focus in on a specific form of sexuality that is practiced according to some studies by around 10% of all heterosexuals and 25% of college age heteros. And which is not practiced, regardless of what you believe, by all male homosexuals.
It isn't a question of who practices what. The question is where should the power to define appropriate social parameters exist? Who gets to say which behaviors are acceptable and which are not? If the people create anti-sodomy laws, and there is nothing in the constitution which says explicitely that they cannot, than the courts do not have a say on the issue. It belongs to the people. To make an argument that both represent different forms of oligarchy and are therefore equivalent is absurd. The court is an oligarchy, the people are not.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Or if its marriage you want to talk about, so is miscegenation. Yet you seem to focus in on a specific form of sexuality that is practiced according to some studies by around 10% of all heterosexuals and 25% of college age heteros. And which is not practiced, regardless of what you believe, by all male homosexuals.
It isn't a question of who practices what. The question is where should the power to define appropriate social parameters exist? Who gets to say which behaviors are acceptable and which are not? If the people create anti-sodomy laws, and there is nothing in the constitution which says explicitely that they cannot, than the courts do not have a say on the issue. It belongs to the people. To make an argument that both represent different forms of oligarchy and are therefore equivalent is absurd. The court is an oligarchy, the people are not.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Who gets to say which behaviors are acceptable and which are not? If the people create anti-sodomy laws, and there is nothing in the constitution which says explicitely that they cannot, than the courts do not have a say on the issue.
Even if you were right about the courts -- and you're not -- none of this explains why you seem to always be talking about anal intercourse.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The court is an oligarchy, the people are not.
Oligarchy does not define the ruling group, it defines the entire system, both rulers and ruled.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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You still have a lot to grasp.
Fuck you.
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I don't have any uncoded ammunition. :-D
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
Given that the scum whose trying to peddle this scam hasn't found a single manufacturer willing to buy their shit I beg to differ...
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Given that the scum whose trying to peddle this scam hasn't found a single manufacturer willing to buy their shit I beg to differ...
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
I beg to differ
No need to beg...perhaps you missed the :-D icon. If they come to take my firearms, then it will be, "No sir, I don't own any firearms."
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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dan neely wrote:
I beg to differ
No need to beg...perhaps you missed the :-D icon. If they come to take my firearms, then it will be, "No sir, I don't own any firearms."
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
If they come to take my firearms, then it will be, "No sir, I don't own any firearms. Ain't nobody here but us chickens, boss."
FTFY
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
If they come to take my firearms, then it will be, "No sir, I don't own any firearms. Ain't nobody here but us chickens, boss."
FTFY
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
I am not sure how to take that. Rather than jumping to a wrong conclusion (which I am very capable of doing), could you explain what you mean by that?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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I am not sure how to take that. Rather than jumping to a wrong conclusion (which I am very capable of doing), could you explain what you mean by that?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
You're probably too young to remember. But a long time ago, but not so far away, there was a joke about a sheriff hunting a fugitive who had taken refuge in a chicken coop. The sheriff, thinking he heard movement in the coop called out, "Who is in there?" and the answer came back, "Nobody but us chickens, boss." No reference to courage or fowls were intended. (No harm, no fowls.)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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You're probably too young to remember. But a long time ago, but not so far away, there was a joke about a sheriff hunting a fugitive who had taken refuge in a chicken coop. The sheriff, thinking he heard movement in the coop called out, "Who is in there?" and the answer came back, "Nobody but us chickens, boss." No reference to courage or fowls were intended. (No harm, no fowls.)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Actually I do remember it and it did occur to me, but I wasn't sure...I'm not all that young. :)
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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Fuck you.