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  • S Synaptrik

    I stand with Jon on this one. People have specifically targeted Troy for posting a single link with no input. Its irrelevant if he discusses later. In fact, I once did the same, and later said I did it to inspire discussion that I wanted to contribute to and Oakman called me a troll. So, Jon is 100% correct. Its selective treatment for a single link posting style.

    This statement is false

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    Synaptrik wrote:

    Its selective treatment for a single link posting style.

    :shrug: I voted for the removal of this thread as well. Happy? I'm not sure where you're going with this argument... it looks suspiciously like you're trying to defend one person's persistently poor behavior by pointing out the existence of this behavior elsewhere. If you really want to see this turn into Digg then just say that. Or go use Digg.

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    • O Oakman

      If you're in love with Troy, take him home with you and stay up all night talking, or showing him your man points. Why should we babysit him for you?

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

      modified on Monday, February 9, 2009 1:24 PM

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      Oh c'mon, don't be such a dick. You already know my stance. I don't agree agree with the way he's handling himself, but the soapbox isn't supposed to be held to the same high standards as the other forums, and should therefore be bereft of message purging (and your over-the-top handling of his messages just hurts the Soapbox). If his posts bother you so much, simply ignore them. It's easy. Really.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      • C Christian Graus

        You're missing the point. Having provided a link, he will discuss it. He is not flooding us with links and then abusing us if we try to talk to him to work out the point he is trying to make.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        You're missing the point. Having provided a link, he will discuss it. He is not flooding us with links and then abusing us if we try to talk to him to work out the point he is trying to make.

        I'm not missing anything. If he posts a link and doesn't want to engage afterwards, who really gives a flyin' fuck?

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          I don't know if Arizona has a similar law, but we have "the castle doctrine" here in Texas, and I'm tellin' you - there'd be some dead Mexicans on my lawn if they pulled that crap here.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Sure, go ahead.

            MrPlankton
            “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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            I don't vote messages except for the programming forums, and only if the message is a good answer to my question.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              I don't know if Arizona has a similar law, but we have "the castle doctrine" here in Texas, and I'm tellin' you - there'd be some dead Mexicans on my lawn if they pulled that crap here.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              But wouldn't what happened to Arizona rancher give you pause?

              MrPlankton
              “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Oh c'mon, don't be such a dick. You already know my stance. I don't agree agree with the way he's handling himself, but the soapbox isn't supposed to be held to the same high standards as the other forums, and should therefore be bereft of message purging (and your over-the-top handling of his messages just hurts the Soapbox). If his posts bother you so much, simply ignore them. It's easy. Really.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Oh c'mon, don't be such a dick.

                I'm not a dick, or a tom, or a harry. I was trying to be funny, though I suspect it wasn't one of my better efforts. :sigh:

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                You already know my stance

                The problem is that you encourage him to post more of the same old crap, when many of us who prefer to hang out in the John Simmons Memorial Soapbox, have been eager to convince him to either change his ways or change his preferred place of posting. Just before he disappeared again, he was actually trying to play it straight, and maybe, if he continues in that vein, folks will change their minds about auto-reporting him. As I pointed out earlier, one of his messages has survived - the one where he actually admitted he didn't know anything about the subject under discussion. :-D As far as what the Soapbox should or shouldn't tolerate, I figger that's far more important to the folks who like to post here than the ones who come in occasionally and or the ones who stick to the lounge but make disparaging remarks about SB. And as far as your stance goes, I may not agree with it but I will fight to the death for your right to have it - unless I am in the next cubicle in the airport men's room. ;)

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                • S Synaptrik

                  I stand with Jon on this one. People have specifically targeted Troy for posting a single link with no input. Its irrelevant if he discusses later. In fact, I once did the same, and later said I did it to inspire discussion that I wanted to contribute to and Oakman called me a troll. So, Jon is 100% correct. Its selective treatment for a single link posting style.

                  This statement is false

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                  Synaptrik wrote:

                  Oakman called me a troll. So, Jon is 100% correct.

                  I'm glad you agree with me, rather than John.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    You're missing the point. Having provided a link, he will discuss it. He is not flooding us with links and then abusing us if we try to talk to him to work out the point he is trying to make.

                    I'm not missing anything. If he posts a link and doesn't want to engage afterwards, who really gives a flyin' fuck?

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I'm not missing anything.

                    Yes, you are.

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    If he posts a link and doesn't want to engage afterwards, who really gives a flyin' fuck?

                    That's the point you are missing. Some of us do. I for one am sick and tired of him announcing that all true Christians hate all Muslims. Even though I'm not a true version of either, it pisses me off.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                    • O Oakman

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      I'm not missing anything.

                      Yes, you are.

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      If he posts a link and doesn't want to engage afterwards, who really gives a flyin' fuck?

                      That's the point you are missing. Some of us do. I for one am sick and tired of him announcing that all true Christians hate all Muslims. Even though I'm not a true version of either, it pisses me off.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      I for one am sick and tired of him announcing

                      Oakman wrote:

                      , it pisses me off.

                      So ignore it, turn the other cheek, get on with your life and stop being so worked up about it. Chill.

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                        "Mi perro tiene hambre y he' s hambriento para las nalgas." is now a phrase I will try to use daily!

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                        • L Lost User

                          Oakman wrote:

                          I for one am sick and tired of him announcing

                          Oakman wrote:

                          , it pisses me off.

                          So ignore it, turn the other cheek, get on with your life and stop being so worked up about it. Chill.

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                          Maxxx_ wrote:

                          So ignore it, turn the other cheek, get on with your life and stop being so worked up about it. Chill.

                          I'm not real good at turning the other cheek. I leave that for the wussies.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                          • O Oakman

                            Maxxx_ wrote:

                            So ignore it, turn the other cheek, get on with your life and stop being so worked up about it. Chill.

                            I'm not real good at turning the other cheek. I leave that for the wussies.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            I leave that for the wussies

                            Nothing wussy about it - you just need to be man enough to ignore it. If you're not man enough, then rattle your cage and vent your testosterone while you grow into maturity sufficiently to look back on your actions as the childish immaturities that they are.

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                              "Mi perro tiene hambre y he' s hambriento para las nalgas." is now a phrase I will try to use daily!

                              ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                              My dog is hungry and he' hungry s for the rumps 5 for you sir!

                              MrPlankton
                              “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                My dog is hungry and he' hungry s for the rumps 5 for you sir!

                                MrPlankton
                                “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                I am honoured to receive your five, Sir, though beg that the true recipient should, perhaps, be babelfish.

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                                  I am honoured to receive your five, Sir, though beg that the true recipient should, perhaps, be babelfish.

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                                  True sir, but I thought your blog worthy of research!

                                  MrPlankton
                                  “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                  • M MrPlankton

                                    But wouldn't what happened to Arizona rancher give you pause?

                                    MrPlankton
                                    “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                    Pause? Me?

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Maxxx_ wrote:

                                      So ignore it, turn the other cheek, get on with your life and stop being so worked up about it. Chill.

                                      I'm not real good at turning the other cheek. I leave that for the wussies.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                      It's obvious that your current approach is having no effect. He continues to do shit that pisses you off (at least I assume he does - by the time I get back in here, his messages have been removed). There are much better discussions going on in here for you to worry about Ilion.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        I don't know if Arizona has a similar law, but we have "the castle doctrine" here in Texas, and I'm tellin' you - there'd be some dead Mexicans on my lawn if they pulled that crap here.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        there'd be some dead Mexicans on my lawn if they pulled that crap here.

                                        That's a rather interesting thing to claim....what "crap" that they've been accused of exactly would you say justified a death penalty? Vandalism? Trespass? Being "not from around these parts boy?"

                                        C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          there'd be some dead Mexicans on my lawn if they pulled that crap here.

                                          That's a rather interesting thing to claim....what "crap" that they've been accused of exactly would you say justified a death penalty? Vandalism? Trespass? Being "not from around these parts boy?"

                                          C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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                                          If I "fear for the safety or security of my family or property", they're legal "targets".

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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