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Did the 'Earth Liberation Front' start the fires in Australia to raise media awareness of supposed 'Global Warming'?

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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    Naw. The situation is probably more akin to the arsonists in Greece who do it for land development.

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    Lost User
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    You could be right, its certainly commopn enough near Marseille. But I wouldnt put it past them to do this.

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      It shows that they are known to be involved in arson attacks. And since the fires in Australia were started by arsoniots I was merely wondering whether there is a link either to them or other activist eco organisations. Tell me, do you think it is impossible that these fires were started by eco-terrorists?

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      Rob Graham
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      Although not impossible that ELF or similar organization might be responsible, there certainly is no credible evidence that they are. It is far more likely that garden variety pyromaniacs are involved. ELF usually focuses on construction projects and the like that are "clearing the land, damaging the ecosystem", rather than burning up the very ecosystem they want to "protect" by setting brush fires or forest fires. I keep hoping they'll torch the Gore mansion...

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        You could be right, its certainly commopn enough near Marseille. But I wouldnt put it past them to do this.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        73Zeppelin
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        Shrug. Why would they do such a thing? It increases global warming! :laugh:

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          "Earth Liberation Front" start fires australia[^] If so State of Fear becomes a factual book. What next? Spreading disease in western cities? Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          That it may have been the coalition for the the liberation of itinerant tree dwellers. Seriously, though, violent activist groups often do more damage to their cause than good. Imagine if you will a national conference of extremist environmentalists spanning 4 days in a beautiful meadow. On the 5th examine the environment after they have left.

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            "Earth Liberation Front" start fires australia[^] If so State of Fear becomes a factual book. What next? Spreading disease in western cities? Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            Chris Meech
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            fat_boy wrote:

            Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

            That's being too polite. Şhit-Head or Dumb-Fucķ is much more appropriate. :

            Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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              Although not impossible that ELF or similar organization might be responsible, there certainly is no credible evidence that they are. It is far more likely that garden variety pyromaniacs are involved. ELF usually focuses on construction projects and the like that are "clearing the land, damaging the ecosystem", rather than burning up the very ecosystem they want to "protect" by setting brush fires or forest fires. I keep hoping they'll torch the Gore mansion...

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              Like putting nails in trees to stop looging firms? Sounds lilke a good way to protect a tree.

              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                fat_boy wrote:

                Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

                That's being too polite. Şhit-Head or Dumb-Fucķ is much more appropriate. :

                Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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                AndyKEnZ
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                Chris Meech wrote:

                That's being too polite. Şhit-Head or Dumb-Fucķ is much more appropriate. :

                Congratulation Fat-Lad, there's your tabloid response to your tabloid post. Cast dubious blame and wait for the flak. Ho-Hum.

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                  "Earth Liberation Front" start fires australia[^] If so State of Fear becomes a factual book. What next? Spreading disease in western cities? Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  I have to say I'm normally with you on the eco-crap thingy but I feel this may be a little too far fetched: much more likely the arsonists are no more or less than plain old arsonists with no agenda other than delighting in setting fires and watching them rage. If a group were responsible and the connection could be made I don't think Australia would shirk at bringing them to justice, wherever they may be and I'm prety sure they'd get plenty of help considering the appalling consequences of these fires.

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                    Like putting nails in trees to stop looging firms? Sounds lilke a good way to protect a tree.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    Oakman
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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Sounds lilke a good way to protect a tree.

                    Doesn't really harm the tree, if that's what you are thinking.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      "Earth Liberation Front" start fires australia[^] If so State of Fear becomes a factual book. What next? Spreading disease in western cities? Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      James L Thomson
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                      You'll get no argument from me that the terrorist group ELF needs to be taken care of, but given that you have presented nothing remotely resembling evidence to link them to this particular case of arson, I don't see why you are even bringing it up. You're beginning to sound like Stan, blaming anything and everything that goes wrong in the world on socialists AGW proponents.

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                        Like putting nails in trees to stop looging firms? Sounds lilke a good way to protect a tree.

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                        Rob Graham
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                        Actually, it may well be a good way to stop loggers from cutting one down. It does only minor harm to the tree, and may well cause it to be left uncut rather than risk damaging a saw. [edit] besides, the purpose of the nails is not to protect the tree so much as to hurt the logger by damaging saw blades, thereby hopefully slowing down the cutting operation. No one said ELF was sane, or anything other than a terrorist group, however, you haven't demonstrated even the remotest link in this instance.[/edit]

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          That it may have been the coalition for the the liberation of itinerant tree dwellers. Seriously, though, violent activist groups often do more damage to their cause than good. Imagine if you will a national conference of extremist environmentalists spanning 4 days in a beautiful meadow. On the 5th examine the environment after they have left.

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                          If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
                          Doing a job is like selecting a mule, you can't choose just the front half xor the back half so when you ask me to do a job don't expect me to do it half-assed.

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                          led mike
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                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                          Imagine if you will

                          Indeed. Now imagine this. A group of wall street brokers crooks unknowingly goes camping at a spot frequented by man eating grizzlies. Now everything goes well for the first few days until the grizzlies go bearzirk on the wall street scum and tear them limb from limb. On the 4th day the aliens that were tracking the grizzlies from orbit land their saucer ship at the secluded site to abduct them for study. Now this is where it starts getting weird...

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                            Like putting nails in trees to stop looging firms? Sounds lilke a good way to protect a tree.

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                            led mike
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                            fat_boy wrote:

                            Like putting nails in trees to stop looging firms? Sounds lilke a good way to protect a tree.

                            Yes it is. You should try it on yourself, it might help protect you from global warming.

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                              Imagine if you will

                              Indeed. Now imagine this. A group of wall street brokers crooks unknowingly goes camping at a spot frequented by man eating grizzlies. Now everything goes well for the first few days until the grizzlies go bearzirk on the wall street scum and tear them limb from limb. On the 4th day the aliens that were tracking the grizzlies from orbit land their saucer ship at the secluded site to abduct them for study. Now this is where it starts getting weird...

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                              Oakman
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                              led mike wrote:

                              Now imagine this

                              ROFL

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                "Earth Liberation Front" start fires australia[^] If so State of Fear becomes a factual book. What next? Spreading disease in western cities? Thats why they are called Eco-Terrorists.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                "Earth Liberation Front" start fires australia[^]

                                I doubt it very much. You'll no doubt enjoy this article though Green ideas must take blame for deaths[^]

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                                • A AndyKEnZ

                                  Chris Meech wrote:

                                  That's being too polite. Şhit-Head or Dumb-Fucķ is much more appropriate. :

                                  Congratulation Fat-Lad, there's your tabloid response to your tabloid post. Cast dubious blame and wait for the flak. Ho-Hum.

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                                  He he!

                                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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