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  • C Christian Graus

    What I don't understand, is the notion that you have a country, but the federal government should have no power to create laws, and has to play these economic games instead of saying 'if you drink underage, you go to jail'

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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    Mike Gaskey
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    instead of saying 'if you drink underage, you go to jail'

    there is no contituitional support for the federal government to do so. this sort of bullshit is reserved for the states.

    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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    • S Synaptrik

      There is a fellow that is suing the government for information on how the TARP funds are being spent. Jerry[^] is the fellow in question. He's not asking for money in the suit. He's volunteered at Katrina, Ground Zero, Lake Charles, never asked for anything. His website cause is to get more males involved in nursing, not a porn site. He's an ex military person and not a liberal. Now on to my point: He's tried to get onto Rush's show and was called unamerican by the screener. He tried Hannity's show and was asked if he was an angry liberal. Is this the meme of conservatives for attempting to find out how the banks are spending the trillions of taxpayer money they have? The reason I ask is there is a lot of uproar about Obama's plan, and those same conservative voices have applied the same to the TARP program, yet in the media conservatives seem to apply selective outrage. TARP funds setup by Bush is American, but Obama's is Socialist. Anyone have any views on what exactly the conservative position is on this subject?

      This statement is false

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      Dan Neely
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      Any answer you got would be bullshit. Once it's given to company X, it's no different than any other money in company X's bank account; any report they give will be meaningless. If they had $bn of normal income and $1bn of bailout and spend $667M on each of 3 catagories (Good, Meh, GRRRR) any assertation of which money went to which is purely arbitrary. X will claim they spend the bailout on all of Good and half of Meh, with not one cent spend on GRRRR. Anyone critical of the company/bailout will claim the opposite. Even were our elected idiots to try and dictate where it can/can't be spent the same sleight of hand would apply. :rolleyes:

      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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      • B BoneSoft

        Good catch, I believe it does. I do have a keyboard that's somewhat on the shrill side.

        led mike wrote:

        Maybe the new pres will launch some military operations/invasions

        Yeah, I'll be watching for that... State side. But then I assume I'll have to call him what he dictates and not something of my own invention. Till then, I'll split my addresses between Uh-bama (especially after his painful speaking engagements), Obamessiah, and Obamanation.


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        BoneSoft wrote:

        Yeah, I'll be watching for that... State side. But then I assume I'll have to call him what he dictates and not something of my own invention. Till then, I'll split my addresses between Uh-bama (especially after his painful speaking engagements), Obamessiah, and Obamanation.

        Yeah I know what you mean. We should have just left Bush in there. I'm sure he was just about to start making things better. Maybe McCain would have told him how to catch Bin Laden.

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          There is a fellow that is suing the government for information on how the TARP funds are being spent. Jerry[^] is the fellow in question. He's not asking for money in the suit. He's volunteered at Katrina, Ground Zero, Lake Charles, never asked for anything. His website cause is to get more males involved in nursing, not a porn site. He's an ex military person and not a liberal. Now on to my point: He's tried to get onto Rush's show and was called unamerican by the screener. He tried Hannity's show and was asked if he was an angry liberal. Is this the meme of conservatives for attempting to find out how the banks are spending the trillions of taxpayer money they have? The reason I ask is there is a lot of uproar about Obama's plan, and those same conservative voices have applied the same to the TARP program, yet in the media conservatives seem to apply selective outrage. TARP funds setup by Bush is American, but Obama's is Socialist. Anyone have any views on what exactly the conservative position is on this subject?

          This statement is false

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          MrPlankton
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          Conservatives are not for TARPI, TARP2, Spendulous, or any nationalization or bail out. Perhaps you think conservatives are for TARP and against Spendulous, which would be incorrect. I to would like to know where the TARP I money was spent. It is a good question and needs to be answered! --- That guy should have no problem getting on the talk shows you mentioned... unless he was boring (that is unforgivable on talk radio) or making stuff up.

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          • C Christian Graus

            What I don't understand, is the notion that you have a country, but the federal government should have no power to create laws, and has to play these economic games instead of saying 'if you drink underage, you go to jail'

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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            Oakman
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            What I don't understand, is the notion that you have a country

            . . .that has a population 15 times the size of yours. What works in a country that has twenty million people is better administered (at least in theory) by a State with a population almost twice that like California, or equal to it like New York and Texas.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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            • L led mike

              BoneSoft wrote:

              Uh-bama is a socialist

              I'm trying to determine if that qualifies for Shog's observation. Did you type that shrilly? Perhaps you have a Shrill keyboard? Maybe the new pres will launch some military operations/invasions and you can call him "I'll bomb ya". Remember the higher the death toll the more we reduce the species dependency on food, water and oxygen.

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              led mike wrote:

              Remember the higher the death toll the more we reduce the species dependency on food, water and oxygen.

              And killing off a bunch of twenty-somethings will lower the unemployment rate really quickly. And, with luck, the other guy will bomb where there are lots of toxic mortgages. . .

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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              • L led mike

                BoneSoft wrote:

                Yeah, I'll be watching for that... State side. But then I assume I'll have to call him what he dictates and not something of my own invention. Till then, I'll split my addresses between Uh-bama (especially after his painful speaking engagements), Obamessiah, and Obamanation.

                Yeah I know what you mean. We should have just left Bush in there. I'm sure he was just about to start making things better. Maybe McCain would have told him how to catch Bin Laden.

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                led mike wrote:

                We should have just left Bush in there.

                Exactly! No really, Bush, McCain and Obama are the last degenerates we need heading this country. But thanks for the benefit of the doubt there Mike. ;)


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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  A lot of conservatives are closeted, narrow-minded bigots that like living in an echo chamber. It is the same way with liberals. Controversy it what makes modern media, not educated discourse.

                  Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States.
                  If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
                  Doing a job is like selecting a mule, you can't choose just the front half xor the back half so when you ask me to do a job don't expect me to do it half-assed.

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                  Synaptrik
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                  ...and the question remains unanswered. Thanks for playing.

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                  • R Rob Graham

                    You seem to be having a hard time getting anyone to bite on your obvious troll.

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                    Synaptrik
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                    This was a sincere question. I really am trying to figure it out. And mistakenly thought people here were open to discussion. Thanks for letting me know that you think I'm not worth a valid reply.

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                    • O Oakman

                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      You seem to be having a hard time getting anyone to bite on your obvious troll.

                      Just what I was thinking. Essentially he wants to know if the Conservatives have stopped beating their wives yet.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      Not at all. But you are free to misinterpret all you like.

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                      • B BoneSoft

                        Synaptrik wrote:

                        Anyone have any views on what exactly the conservative position is on this subject?

                        Bush was just about the only "conservative" that thought TARP was a good American idea. OK, I exagerate, a minority of TARP voters were Republicans, all of which have highly pissed off constituencies now. I can't answer for the call screeners at either show, but I'm fairly certain that Rush and Hannity would have applauded this guys efforts, as do I. Oh yeah, and Uh-bama is a socialist. :-D


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                        BoneSoft wrote:

                        I can't answer for the call screeners at either show, but I'm fairly certain that Rush and Hannity would have applauded this guys efforts, as do I.

                        That's what I thought and what I'm trying to reconcile. Thanks for an honest reply. Seems difficult to get these days on this forum.

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                        • B BoneSoft

                          led mike wrote:

                          We should have just left Bush in there.

                          Exactly! No really, Bush, McCain and Obama are the last degenerates we need heading this country. But thanks for the benefit of the doubt there Mike. ;)


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                          BoneSoft wrote:

                          But thanks for the benefit of the doubt there Mike.

                          I have plenty of doubts, but you better hurry because I think my benefits are about to be seriously reduced! :laugh:

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                            BoneSoft wrote:

                            But thanks for the benefit of the doubt there Mike.

                            I have plenty of doubts, but you better hurry because I think my benefits are about to be seriously reduced! :laugh:

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                            BoneSoft
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                            led mike wrote:

                            I think my benefits are about to be seriously reduced

                            Mine too (if I'd had any). I don't fit Uh-bama's definition of working class... I work.


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                            • B BoneSoft

                              led mike wrote:

                              I think my benefits are about to be seriously reduced

                              Mine too (if I'd had any). I don't fit Uh-bama's definition of working class... I work.


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                              BoneSoft wrote:

                              I don't fit Uh-bama's definition of working class

                              Don't flatter yourself. He doesn't even know who you are, I just asked him. He's currently got Homeland Security focusing on heavy consumption of Cough Syrup. Those people fit the terrorist recruiting profile.

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                              • M Mike Gaskey

                                Synaptrik wrote:

                                He's tried to get onto Rush's show and was called unamerican by the screener. He tried Hannity's show and was asked if he was an angry liberal.

                                I don't believe it.

                                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                Synaptrik
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                                You are not required to. But I heard this straight from the person himself on another talk radio show.

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                                • M MrPlankton

                                  Conservatives are not for TARPI, TARP2, Spendulous, or any nationalization or bail out. Perhaps you think conservatives are for TARP and against Spendulous, which would be incorrect. I to would like to know where the TARP I money was spent. It is a good question and needs to be answered! --- That guy should have no problem getting on the talk shows you mentioned... unless he was boring (that is unforgivable on talk radio) or making stuff up.

                                  MrPlankton
                                  “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

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                                  Synaptrik
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                                  That's what I was thinking. I was just looking to see if this was an aberration. Maybe he said the wrong thing to the screener.

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                                  • S Synaptrik

                                    This was a sincere question. I really am trying to figure it out. And mistakenly thought people here were open to discussion. Thanks for letting me know that you think I'm not worth a valid reply.

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                                    Synaptrik wrote:

                                    Thanks for letting me know that you think I'm not worth a valid reply.

                                    You're welcome.

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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      What I don't understand, is the notion that you have a country

                                      . . .that has a population 15 times the size of yours. What works in a country that has twenty million people is better administered (at least in theory) by a State with a population almost twice that like California, or equal to it like New York and Texas.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      . . .that has a population 15 times the size of yours

                                      So ? How does the number of people in the country define if it's a good idea or not for the country to have one set of laws ? This is an historical situation, it's not one that you guys came up with because you had lots of people.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                      • S Synaptrik

                                        Not at all. But you are free to misinterpret all you like.

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                                        As you are free to unavote anyone who disagrees with you.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                                        • S Synaptrik

                                          This was a sincere question. I really am trying to figure it out. And mistakenly thought people here were open to discussion. Thanks for letting me know that you think I'm not worth a valid reply.

                                          This statement is false

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                                          Synaptrik wrote:

                                          Thanks for letting me know that you think I'm not worth a valid reply.

                                          You might be. Your question wasn't.

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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