Our history is being suppressed

[Christian Graus]

Have you read the book 1421 ? The Chinese basically invented *everything* according to this guy. He makes a powerful case. It seems possible that the West had a more warlike culture, not the brightest ideas. He even argues that Leonardo Da Vinci was a great artist who copied Chinese manuscripts. Now, he may be off on some of it, but the first book, 1421, he builds a powerful case for the Chinese being behind the first to navigate the whole world.

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[Christian Graus]

I have no doubt. It's possible that Shirley used to work both ways.

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[Lost User]

Surely you can't be serious? I am, and stop calling me Shirley!

[Christian Graus]

Are you a member of the country club ?

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[Oakman]

Christian Graus wrote:

It's possible that Shirley used to work both ways

"Before the publication of the novel "Shirley" by Charlotte Brontë in 1849 Shirley was an uncommon, but distinctly male name and would have been a very unusual name for a woman." (From Wikipedia, but don't tell Zep :~ )

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[Sahir Shah]

No, I haven't read 1421. I just read the Wikipedia article[^] on it. It seems this guy Gavine Menzies got carried away and made some unsubstantiated claims. Nevertheless, everyone knows about the huge contributions made by the Chinese to science. I never suspected my home state had anything to be proud of other than beautiful scenery, coconut oil, lungi and the world's greatest drinkers.

[Lost User]

Very true. There was (died a few years back) a British Heavyweight Wrestler called Shirley Crabtree. Better known (in UK) as Big Daddy. [^]. (Opps, another wikipedia link!)

[Christian Graus]

Yeah, his first book was a big success, and I thought his second book was both boring and probably went too far. You could be right, although I generally regarded that the Muslim world had contributed great things to science, especially maths and astrology. If I'd stopped to think about it, I'd have assumed the Indian world was involved there, too.

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[leckey 0]

I also thought that suspicious.

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[leckey 0]

Guess what? Most US textbooks have inaccuracies or are just plain wrong, or cover up the truth. Like Helen Keller...we all know her to have overcome her disabilities. Did you know she was a raving socialist? No, you don't. We want everyone, including every President even if they served less than a year or hated African-Americans (um, Wilson)we just cover it up. G-d forbid we give any credit to another country!

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[Christian Graus]

leckey wrote:

Did you know she was a raving socialist?

Yes, I did :P

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[leckey 0]

Ask how many Americans know that, much less learned that in school!

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[Andy_L_J]

Have you forgotten? http://www.davewarner.com.au/shirley.html[^]

I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly I don't know what all the fuss is about with America getting it's first black president. Zimbabwe's had one for years and he's sh*t. - Percy Drake , Shrewsbury