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  • S soap brain

    Odd. He's gone mute. I thought he'd gleefully show us how much he knows about evolution.

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    Go Boy! Now discuss burst theory and convergent evolution, that would make his frontal lobe quake!

    ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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      Go Boy! Now discuss burst theory and convergent evolution, that would make his frontal lobe quake!

      ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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      soap brain
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Go Boy!

      What am I, a puppy dog?

      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Now discuss burst theory and convergent evolution, that would make his frontal lobe quake!

      Meh. I just want to know when he's getting his Nobel Prize for disproving evolution.

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      • S soap brain

        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Go Boy!

        What am I, a puppy dog?

        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Now discuss burst theory and convergent evolution, that would make his frontal lobe quake!

        Meh. I just want to know when he's getting his Nobel Prize for disproving evolution.

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        No, Darwins Bulldog!

        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

        I just want to know when he's getting his Nobel Prize for disproving evolution.

        The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

        ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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        • D Dalek Dave

          No, Darwins Bulldog!

          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

          I just want to know when he's getting his Nobel Prize for disproving evolution.

          The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

          ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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          soap brain
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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          No, Darwins Bulldog!

          Ohhh, but bulldogs are fugly. Puppy dogs[^] are way cooler. :cool:

          Dalek Dave wrote:

          The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

          Did you know that the presence of a human sexually arouses ostriches?

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          • S soap brain

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            No, Darwins Bulldog!

            Ohhh, but bulldogs are fugly. Puppy dogs[^] are way cooler. :cool:

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

            Did you know that the presence of a human sexually arouses ostriches?

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            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

            Did you know that the presence of a human sexually arouses ostriches?

            Is that for real? Cos if it is I will be using it! :)

            ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

              Did you know that the presence of a human sexually arouses ostriches?

              Is that for real? Cos if it is I will be using it! :)

              ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Is that for real? Cos if it is I will be using it!

              Yeah, it's real. I knew you'd appreciate it! :)

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                ... two with which to cover their eyes, and two with which to cover their ears. News at Princeton: Evolution's new wrinkle: Proteins with cruise control provide new perspective[^]

                A team of Princeton University scientists has discovered that chains of proteins found in most living organisms act like adaptive machines, possessing the ability to control their own evolution. The research, which appears to offer evidence of a hidden mechanism guiding the way biological organisms respond to the forces of natural selection, provides a new perspective on evolution, the scientists said. The researchers -- Raj Chakrabarti, Herschel Rabitz, Stacey Springs and George McLendon -- made the discovery while carrying out experiments on proteins constituting the electron transport chain (ETC), a biochemical network essential for metabolism. A mathematical analysis of the experiments showed that the proteins themselves acted to correct any imbalance imposed on them through artificial mutations and restored the chain to working order. "The discovery answers an age-old question that has puzzled biologists since the time of Darwin: How can organisms be so exquisitely complex, if evolution is completely random, operating like a 'blind watchmaker'?" said Chakrabarti, an associate research scholar in the Department of Chemistry at Princeton. "Our new theory extends Darwin's model, demonstrating how organisms can subtly direct aspects of their own evolution to create order out of randomness." . . The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. Applying the concepts of control theory, a body of knowledge that deals with the behavior of dynamical systems, the researchers concluded that this self-correcting behavior could only be possible if, during the early stages of evolution, the proteins had developed a self-regulating mechanism, analogous to a car's cruise control or a home's thermostat, allowing them to fine-tune and control their subsequent evolution. The scientists are working on formulating a new general theory based on this finding they are calling "evolutionary control." . . The scientists do not know how the cellular machinery guiding this process may have originated, but they emphatically said it does not butt

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                How does your lot feel about Newton now? Any of his philosophy acceptable yet?

                Bob Emmett

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                • I Ilion

                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  Odd. He's gone mute. I thought he'd gleefully show us how much he knows about evolution.

                  What fools you children are.

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                  Ilíon wrote:

                  What fools you children are.

                  :zzz:

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                  • L Lost User

                    How does your lot feel about Newton now? Any of his philosophy acceptable yet?

                    Bob Emmett

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                    Bob Emmett wrote:

                    How does your lot feel about Newton now? Any of his philosophy acceptable yet?

                    Ah, yes, the old ""evolution" (whatever that word means) is as well "proven" (which word your set also avoids understanding) as gravity" gambit. Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'" Also, and oddly enough, I notice that you seem to be under the wild misunderstanding that your lame attempt to mock my mockery of your mock-worthy beliefs is on an equaly footing.

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                    • S soap brain

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Is that for real? Cos if it is I will be using it!

                      Yeah, it's real. I knew you'd appreciate it! :)

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                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      I knew you'd appreciate it!

                      Did you respect the ostrich in the morning?

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                        I knew you'd appreciate it!

                        Did you respect the ostrich in the morning?

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Did you respect the ostrich in the morning?

                        Did I...what? Is this some sort of sexual euphemism? :confused:

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                        • I Ilion

                          Bob Emmett wrote:

                          How does your lot feel about Newton now? Any of his philosophy acceptable yet?

                          Ah, yes, the old ""evolution" (whatever that word means) is as well "proven" (which word your set also avoids understanding) as gravity" gambit. Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'" Also, and oddly enough, I notice that you seem to be under the wild misunderstanding that your lame attempt to mock my mockery of your mock-worthy beliefs is on an equaly footing.

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                          Ilíon wrote:

                          Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'"

                          2 reasons: 1) The Theory of Gravity is not as well supported as modern evolutionary theory. 2) You don't have a large enough group of ignoramuses saying things like "Gravity is wrong because the moon stays up there without falling".

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                            Ilíon wrote:

                            Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'"

                            2 reasons: 1) The Theory of Gravity is not as well supported as modern evolutionary theory. 2) You don't have a large enough group of ignoramuses saying things like "Gravity is wrong because the moon stays up there without falling".

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                            :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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                            • I Ilion

                              Bob Emmett wrote:

                              How does your lot feel about Newton now? Any of his philosophy acceptable yet?

                              Ah, yes, the old ""evolution" (whatever that word means) is as well "proven" (which word your set also avoids understanding) as gravity" gambit. Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'" Also, and oddly enough, I notice that you seem to be under the wild misunderstanding that your lame attempt to mock my mockery of your mock-worthy beliefs is on an equaly footing.

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                              Ilíon wrote:

                              Ah, yes, the old ""evolution" (whatever that word means) is as well "proven" (which word your set also avoids understanding) as gravity" gambit.

                              :rolleyes: I merely asked whether Newton's philosophy was now acceptable to your lot. I understand that the 'all truth is revealed in the Pentateuch' brigade of 250 years ago despised Newton. Do their descendants still do so?

                              Bob Emmett

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                                No, Darwins Bulldog!

                                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                I just want to know when he's getting his Nobel Prize for disproving evolution.

                                The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

                                ------------------------------------ "Will you marry me? Are you rich?, Don't answer in that order" Groucho Marx

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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

                                Doesn't he first have to figure out where his arse is? :laugh:

                                "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  The day he figures out what an Arse he is?

                                  Doesn't he first have to figure out where his arse is? :laugh:

                                  "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

                                  I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^]
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                                  Between his nose and his chin

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                                  • J James L Thomson

                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'"

                                    2 reasons: 1) The Theory of Gravity is not as well supported as modern evolutionary theory. 2) You don't have a large enough group of ignoramuses saying things like "Gravity is wrong because the moon stays up there without falling".

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                                    Ilion
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                                    James L. Thomson wrote:

                                    Ilíon wrote: Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'" 2 reasons: 1) The Theory of Gravity is not as well supported as modern evolutionary theory. 2) You don't have a large enough group of ignoramuses saying things like "Gravity is wrong because the moon stays up there without falling".

                                    Ah! The famous circular -- and invisible -- "mountain of evidence!" :rolleyes: You boys just don't *do* linear logic, do you? Observe:

                                    "The discovery answers an age-old question that has puzzled biologists since the time of Darwin: How can organisms be so exquisitely complex, if evolution is completely random, operating like a 'blind watchmaker'?" said Chakrabarti, an associate research scholar in the Department of Chemistry at Princeton. ... . The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. ...

                                    Translation: 1) 'modern evolutionary theory' does not make, and has never made, sense in light of what it is asserted to explain -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! 2) despite that invisible and circularly "argued" "mountain of evidence," 'modern evolutionary theorists' have *no* explanation for what they choose to call "evolution" -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! 2a) which is to say, there *is* no actual theory of "evolution" -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! But, The Trvth of "evolution" must be protected, and logical reasoning certainly takes the hindmost:

                                    The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. Applying the concepts of control theory, a body of knowledge that deals with the behavior of dynamical systems, the researchers concluded that this self-correcting behavior could only be possible if, during the early stages of evolution, the proteins had developed a self-regulating mechanism, analogous to a car's cruise control or a home's thermostat, allowing them to fine-tune and control their subsequent evolution. The scientists are working on formulating a new general theory based on this finding they are calling "evolutionary control."

                                    Translation: 1) "random mutation and natural selection" is incapable of *bei

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                                      Ilíon wrote:

                                      Ah, yes, the old ""evolution" (whatever that word means) is as well "proven" (which word your set also avoids understanding) as gravity" gambit.

                                      :rolleyes: I merely asked whether Newton's philosophy was now acceptable to your lot. I understand that the 'all truth is revealed in the Pentateuch' brigade of 250 years ago despised Newton. Do their descendants still do so?

                                      Bob Emmett

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                                      Bob Emmett wrote:

                                      :rolleyes: I merely asked whether Newton's philosophy was now acceptable to your lot. I understand that the 'all truth is revealed in the Pentateuch' brigade of 250 years ago despised Newton. Do their descendants still do so?

                                      :rolleyes: yourself, you intellectually dishonest (and patheticly so) person

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                                        James L. Thomson wrote:

                                        Ilíon wrote: Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'" 2 reasons: 1) The Theory of Gravity is not as well supported as modern evolutionary theory. 2) You don't have a large enough group of ignoramuses saying things like "Gravity is wrong because the moon stays up there without falling".

                                        Ah! The famous circular -- and invisible -- "mountain of evidence!" :rolleyes: You boys just don't *do* linear logic, do you? Observe:

                                        "The discovery answers an age-old question that has puzzled biologists since the time of Darwin: How can organisms be so exquisitely complex, if evolution is completely random, operating like a 'blind watchmaker'?" said Chakrabarti, an associate research scholar in the Department of Chemistry at Princeton. ... . The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. ...

                                        Translation: 1) 'modern evolutionary theory' does not make, and has never made, sense in light of what it is asserted to explain -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! 2) despite that invisible and circularly "argued" "mountain of evidence," 'modern evolutionary theorists' have *no* explanation for what they choose to call "evolution" -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! 2a) which is to say, there *is* no actual theory of "evolution" -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! But, The Trvth of "evolution" must be protected, and logical reasoning certainly takes the hindmost:

                                        The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. Applying the concepts of control theory, a body of knowledge that deals with the behavior of dynamical systems, the researchers concluded that this self-correcting behavior could only be possible if, during the early stages of evolution, the proteins had developed a self-regulating mechanism, analogous to a car's cruise control or a home's thermostat, allowing them to fine-tune and control their subsequent evolution. The scientists are working on formulating a new general theory based on this finding they are calling "evolutionary control."

                                        Translation: 1) "random mutation and natural selection" is incapable of *bei

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                                        Ilion
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                                        :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: What poor, pathetic, irrational children you 'modern evolutionary theorists' are. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                          James L. Thomson wrote:

                                          Ilíon wrote: Oddly enough, we *never* see physicists saying things like "gravitation is as well proven as 'modern evolutionary theory'" 2 reasons: 1) The Theory of Gravity is not as well supported as modern evolutionary theory. 2) You don't have a large enough group of ignoramuses saying things like "Gravity is wrong because the moon stays up there without falling".

                                          Ah! The famous circular -- and invisible -- "mountain of evidence!" :rolleyes: You boys just don't *do* linear logic, do you? Observe:

                                          "The discovery answers an age-old question that has puzzled biologists since the time of Darwin: How can organisms be so exquisitely complex, if evolution is completely random, operating like a 'blind watchmaker'?" said Chakrabarti, an associate research scholar in the Department of Chemistry at Princeton. ... . The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. ...

                                          Translation: 1) 'modern evolutionary theory' does not make, and has never made, sense in light of what it is asserted to explain -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! 2) despite that invisible and circularly "argued" "mountain of evidence," 'modern evolutionary theorists' have *no* explanation for what they choose to call "evolution" -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! 2a) which is to say, there *is* no actual theory of "evolution" -- and biologists *know* that this is the case! But, The Trvth of "evolution" must be protected, and logical reasoning certainly takes the hindmost:

                                          The authors sought to identify the underlying cause for this self-correcting behavior in the observed protein chains. Standard evolutionary theory offered no clues. Applying the concepts of control theory, a body of knowledge that deals with the behavior of dynamical systems, the researchers concluded that this self-correcting behavior could only be possible if, during the early stages of evolution, the proteins had developed a self-regulating mechanism, analogous to a car's cruise control or a home's thermostat, allowing them to fine-tune and control their subsequent evolution. The scientists are working on formulating a new general theory based on this finding they are calling "evolutionary control."

                                          Translation: 1) "random mutation and natural selection" is incapable of *bei

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                                          Wow, congratulations! :) When are you getting your Nobel Prize?

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