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  • S Synaptrik

    Technically he's being harassed for straying from his duty. He's put such a focus on his personal immigration battle that his regular Sheriff's duties are suffering. At least that's the report I heard. The complaints include massive racial profiling that it becomes a nuisance to honest Mexican-American citizens.

    This statement is false

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    Stan Shannon
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    Synaptrik wrote:

    The complaints include massive racial profiling

    Aren't people ever going to grow tired of promoting such blatant stupidity? For any practical purpose every single illegal alien is hispanic. That is not the fault of any white anglo saxon protestant American. It is just a fact. If you cannot acknowledge that altogether obvious reality, you simply cannot deal effectively with illegal immigration. Racial profiling is not the problem, illegal hispanics are. Stop falling for the fear mongers who try to terrify you about your own civilization and deal with the real problem of illegal hispanics from failed hispanic nations. ANd for fucks sake stop feeling guilty about it. Its ok, really. It doesn't make you a racist.

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    • S Synaptrik

      Technically he's being harassed for straying from his duty. He's put such a focus on his personal immigration battle that his regular Sheriff's duties are suffering. At least that's the report I heard. The complaints include massive racial profiling that it becomes a nuisance to honest Mexican-American citizens.

      This statement is false

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      Chris Austin
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      Synaptrik wrote:

      At least that's the report I heard.

      What report is this? While I live in Dallas, I still think of Phoenix as home. So, I'd love to hear an honest non political gripe.

      Synaptrik wrote:

      The complaints include massive racial profiling that it becomes a nuisance to honest Mexican-American citizens.

      All of the Honest People I know (my entire family and extended family and every friend I grew up with in a predominately mexican-american part of west Phoenix ) in Maricopa County like the guy. The only people I have seen complain about him are so-called immigrant's rights supporters. These are the same people who refuse to call the illegals 'illegal' but prefer the term undocumented workers or people without 'papers'. They have an agenda. Edit:

      Synaptrik wrote:

      The complaints include massive racial profiling

      How else can we deal with the problem of illegal aliens who, at least in Maricopa County, are by a great majority from South and Central America? I agree with going after people who employ them first and foremost. But, can you offer an effective alternative to racial profiling?

      Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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        Synaptrik wrote:

        The complaints include massive racial profiling

        Aren't people ever going to grow tired of promoting such blatant stupidity? For any practical purpose every single illegal alien is hispanic. That is not the fault of any white anglo saxon protestant American. It is just a fact. If you cannot acknowledge that altogether obvious reality, you simply cannot deal effectively with illegal immigration. Racial profiling is not the problem, illegal hispanics are. Stop falling for the fear mongers who try to terrify you about your own civilization and deal with the real problem of illegal hispanics from failed hispanic nations. ANd for fucks sake stop feeling guilty about it. Its ok, really. It doesn't make you a racist.

        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Oakman
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        :thumbsup::thumbsup:

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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        • O Oakman

          :thumbsup::thumbsup:

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          soap brain
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          You updated your profile page. When did you do that?

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          • S soap brain

            You updated your profile page. When did you do that?

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            Oakman
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            When I published my article

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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            • S Synaptrik

              Technically he's being harassed for straying from his duty. He's put such a focus on his personal immigration battle that his regular Sheriff's duties are suffering. At least that's the report I heard. The complaints include massive racial profiling that it becomes a nuisance to honest Mexican-American citizens.

              This statement is false

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              Rob Graham
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              The phrase "racial profiling" is being used by people with an contrary agenda to describe what actually should be called efficient application of law enforcement resources. If 90% of your violators are Latino, it makes no sense to apply equal effort to whites, negros, orientals and latinos. Anyone crying "racial profiling" is trying to divert attention to a straw man, and is interested in obscuring the truth rather than adding to it.

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              • K kmg365

                feds start paying attention, go Joe go.[^]

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                From the article[^]:

                The Department of Justice (DOJ) has launched an investigation of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office in Arizona following requests by congressional Democrats and allegations by liberal activists that the department has violated the civil rights of illegal aliens. ...

                Non-citizens of the US have no US civil rights. And illegal aliens -- do-it-yourself invaders -- have no moral claims upon our sympathies.

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                • K kmg365

                  feds start paying attention, go Joe go.[^]

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                  is that the sheriff that mad made the inmates wear pink jumpsuits and grow their own food?

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                  • F fred_

                    is that the sheriff that mad made the inmates wear pink jumpsuits and grow their own food?

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                    He also has them live in Tents and work on road clean up crews. No easy time on his watch.

                    Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                    • O Oakman

                      When I published my article

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      You and I must be working on very similar projects.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        You and I must be working on very similar projects.

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                        Oakman
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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        You and I must be working on very similar projects

                        Are you hooking into the page request manager, too? I'm just beginning to understand how useful an object it is.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        • O Oakman

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          You and I must be working on very similar projects

                          Are you hooking into the page request manager, too? I'm just beginning to understand how useful an object it is.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Stan Shannon
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                          Oakman wrote:

                          Are you hooking into the page request manager, too? I'm just beginning to understand how useful an object it is.

                          I actually haven't found a use for it yet. In fact, I don't use any of the microsoft ajax controls, including the updatepanel. My client side javascript is intended to be used in an MVC pattern. There is no application specific logic on the client and I'm just using ajax to transfer data between the controller and the view which is pretty much pure HTML. I have a custom control that sets up the scriptmanager and builds the view from an XML definition file. The IFrame has been an important part of the design but I have it working now without the need for an IFrame.

                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          • C Chris Austin

                            He also has them live in Tents and work on road clean up crews. No easy time on his watch.

                            Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                            kmg365
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                            I hope he runs for a higher office.

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                            • F fred_

                              is that the sheriff that mad made the inmates wear pink jumpsuits and grow their own food?

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                              kmg365
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                              Yes.

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                              • S Stan Shannon

                                Oakman wrote:

                                Are you hooking into the page request manager, too? I'm just beginning to understand how useful an object it is.

                                I actually haven't found a use for it yet. In fact, I don't use any of the microsoft ajax controls, including the updatepanel. My client side javascript is intended to be used in an MVC pattern. There is no application specific logic on the client and I'm just using ajax to transfer data between the controller and the view which is pretty much pure HTML. I have a custom control that sets up the scriptmanager and builds the view from an XML definition file. The IFrame has been an important part of the design but I have it working now without the need for an IFrame.

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                Oakman
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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                I actually haven't found a use for it yet

                                Here's a little piece of code I put in today: Public Shared Sub DisplayAJAXMessage(ByVal page As Control, ByVal msg As String) Dim myScript As String = String.Format("alert('{0:}')", msg) ScriptManager.RegisterStartupScript(page, page.GetType(), "MyScript", myScript, True) End Sub and later, to tell the player he can't do that: DisplayAJAXMessage(Me, "Not enough space or credits") Bingo, immediate alertbox that happens on the same postback that the player used to try something he couldn't do. Later I'll replace the alert with a CSS'd messagebox that'll act like a Toast. It's not rocket science, but it's an example of what I am beginning to really like about the manager, that ability to hook into the same round trip that occurred to create a situation. (Yes, it's VB, if you need it translated, I'll be glad to do so. ;) )

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                • C Chris Austin

                                  Synaptrik wrote:

                                  At least that's the report I heard.

                                  What report is this? While I live in Dallas, I still think of Phoenix as home. So, I'd love to hear an honest non political gripe.

                                  Synaptrik wrote:

                                  The complaints include massive racial profiling that it becomes a nuisance to honest Mexican-American citizens.

                                  All of the Honest People I know (my entire family and extended family and every friend I grew up with in a predominately mexican-american part of west Phoenix ) in Maricopa County like the guy. The only people I have seen complain about him are so-called immigrant's rights supporters. These are the same people who refuse to call the illegals 'illegal' but prefer the term undocumented workers or people without 'papers'. They have an agenda. Edit:

                                  Synaptrik wrote:

                                  The complaints include massive racial profiling

                                  How else can we deal with the problem of illegal aliens who, at least in Maricopa County, are by a great majority from South and Central America? I agree with going after people who employ them first and foremost. But, can you offer an effective alternative to racial profiling?

                                  Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

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                                  Synaptrik
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                                  Well, one novel idea is supporting the 14th amendment which provides for both equal protection and equal prosecution under the law. So, profiling as a practice by law enforcement when rounding up anyone who is Hispanic and forcing them to prove their legitimacy even for legal citizens who happen to be Mexican, which, Arizona has been Mexican for hundreds of years, is at best, unconstitutional. If we support the idea that we are a nation of laws, then we can't pick and choose which laws we wish to obey. As soon as law enforcement is allowed to ignore the laws they find inconvenient, then we are no longer a nation of laws.

                                  This statement is false

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