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For the regulars who answer questions on this board - is there any point to having Chris put up a sticky that discourages asking for "URGENTZ - NEED HELP" type requests? Perhaps included in the sticky would be advice on asking good questions so that your question gets answered? If I can get some agreement on this, I'll post something in the suggestions forum to that effect.
I doubt that such a warning would phase 99% of such posters since they probably wouldn't read it. A large proportion of such posts come as their very first post. Hell, a lot of them can't even seem to figure out which forum to post in. :doh:
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For the regulars who answer questions on this board - is there any point to having Chris put up a sticky that discourages asking for "URGENTZ - NEED HELP" type requests? Perhaps included in the sticky would be advice on asking good questions so that your question gets answered? If I can get some agreement on this, I'll post something in the suggestions forum to that effect.
IMO every forum should have a sticky message, and most of them could have exactly the same content except for the mission statement. Why would this forum be any different? :)
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IMO every forum should have a sticky message, and most of them could have exactly the same content except for the mission statement. Why would this forum be any different? :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
Why would this forum be any different?
I don't know. That's why I asked! :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
Why would this forum be any different?
I don't know. That's why I asked! :)
If you want to suggest they change it, you would have to repost in the suggestions&bugs forum, that's the only one Chris reads! :)
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For the regulars who answer questions on this board - is there any point to having Chris put up a sticky that discourages asking for "URGENTZ - NEED HELP" type requests? Perhaps included in the sticky would be advice on asking good questions so that your question gets answered? If I can get some agreement on this, I'll post something in the suggestions forum to that effect.
As if sticky will do any magic. I think what might force people to read (at least see it) is when someone is new (say below x number of posts) then when posting they will be redirected with the page that have the same wording as sticky and they need to consent (similar to EULA) by checking off. That way, at least they will loose the "oh! I did not see it" argument. just my 2cents
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
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As if sticky will do any magic. I think what might force people to read (at least see it) is when someone is new (say below x number of posts) then when posting they will be redirected with the page that have the same wording as sticky and they need to consent (similar to EULA) by checking off. That way, at least they will loose the "oh! I did not see it" argument. just my 2cents
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
you can't complain about people not following the rules, if the rules aren't published. Having them signed of once may not be good enough, lots of things around here change all the time. I'm in favor of a sticky note with a last-modified date (as in suggs/bugs forum). :)
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you can't complain about people not following the rules, if the rules aren't published. Having them signed of once may not be good enough, lots of things around here change all the time. I'm in favor of a sticky note with a last-modified date (as in suggs/bugs forum). :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
you can't complain about people not following the rules, if the rules aren't published.
I think you did not get what I said. What I suggested was a different way of publishing the rules. This can be done in addition to sticky.
Luc Pattyn wrote:
Having them signed of once may not be good enough, lots of things around here change all the time.
No, it does have to be done only once. This could be for the first x number of posts. That way the message is delivered again and again.
Luc Pattyn wrote:
I'm in favor of a sticky note with a last-modified date (as in suggs/bugs forum).
I have nothing against this. But if you see the sticky for asp.net and c# ( for example ), the most rules that get violated frequently are #1 and #2. So, the question is how do we make people to follow this rules, well 1. Sticky is good, but it does not force people to see it. 2. Making it *mandatory* to show for the first x number of posts will force *some* people to notice it. I recon it will not eliminate the issue, people will keep ignoring it, but if it can reduce the people by good percentage it is worth it.
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
you can't complain about people not following the rules, if the rules aren't published.
I think you did not get what I said. What I suggested was a different way of publishing the rules. This can be done in addition to sticky.
Luc Pattyn wrote:
Having them signed of once may not be good enough, lots of things around here change all the time.
No, it does have to be done only once. This could be for the first x number of posts. That way the message is delivered again and again.
Luc Pattyn wrote:
I'm in favor of a sticky note with a last-modified date (as in suggs/bugs forum).
I have nothing against this. But if you see the sticky for asp.net and c# ( for example ), the most rules that get violated frequently are #1 and #2. So, the question is how do we make people to follow this rules, well 1. Sticky is good, but it does not force people to see it. 2. Making it *mandatory* to show for the first x number of posts will force *some* people to notice it. I recon it will not eliminate the issue, people will keep ignoring it, but if it can reduce the people by good percentage it is worth it.
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
Rather than annoying new members N times (some do understand from a single read, you should not punish them for being new here), we should be given a button "poster needs to read the rules again" next to "vote to remove", so readers can inflict the pop-up rules as much as is required. :)
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Rather than annoying new members N times (some do understand from a single read, you should not punish them for being new here), we should be given a button "poster needs to read the rules again" next to "vote to remove", so readers can inflict the pop-up rules as much as is required. :)
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Rather than annoying new members N times (some do understand from a single read, you should not punish them for being new here), we should be given a button "poster needs to read the rules again" next to "vote to remove", so readers can inflict the pop-up rules as much as is required. :)
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles]
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
we should be given a button "poster needs to read the rules again"
Open to abuse. If a poster doesn't like a reply, or just has a vendetta against a member, they can annoy a member indefinitely. Perhaps it would be possible to put some form of restriction on it? (e.g. 3 votes required or cannot be performed on [silver|gold] members and above
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
we should be given a button "poster needs to read the rules again"
Open to abuse. If a poster doesn't like a reply, or just has a vendetta against a member, they can annoy a member indefinitely. Perhaps it would be possible to put some form of restriction on it? (e.g. 3 votes required or cannot be performed on [silver|gold] members and above
of course, similar to the "vote to remove", whatever the filter is there. :)
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of course, similar to the "vote to remove", whatever the filter is there. :)
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No slight on the forum or its denizens, but chances are 13 people aren't going to vote to force a member to click through the guidelines of posting. The criteria would have to be far lower in order for the system to be practical
OK, let's have just one counter belonging to the account, not the message; - increment it by readers clicking the "poster needs to learn the rules" button; - when poster posts a message: * if >= N show the pop-up and decrement by N * else decrement by 1 but not below zero (or not below -N ?) Some experiments will indicate what a good value for N would be, let's start with 10. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
we should be given a button "poster needs to read the rules again"
Open to abuse. If a poster doesn't like a reply, or just has a vendetta against a member, they can annoy a member indefinitely. Perhaps it would be possible to put some form of restriction on it? (e.g. 3 votes required or cannot be performed on [silver|gold] members and above
Computafreak wrote:
If a poster doesn't like a reply, or just has a vendetta against a member, they can annoy a member indefinitely.
yea that would be cool ;P
Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]
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OK, let's have just one counter belonging to the account, not the message; - increment it by readers clicking the "poster needs to learn the rules" button; - when poster posts a message: * if >= N show the pop-up and decrement by N * else decrement by 1 but not below zero (or not below -N ?) Some experiments will indicate what a good value for N would be, let's start with 10. :)
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