‘Make Every Woman Wear a Burkha’
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‘Make Every Woman Wear a Burkha’[^] And now we see the appropriateness of the user-info image I'd used until it was removed as "religiously offensive" (anyone with eyes to see could see that it was a political statement). This Moslem bullshit will never stop until Westerners refuse to put up with it any longer -- but to effectively oppose the Islamization and dhimmification of our societies would mean admiting that we took a wrong-turn at the so-called "Enlightenment," and what are the chances of that happening before it's too late?
Although I would never support the view of a Muslim Britain. However, unless UK and EU law is changed, these misguided individuals have the right of free speech as long as violence is not incited then the authorities will act and arrests and prosecutions will occur, and as necessary, deportation. People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain. Those who can't or won't adapt should get onto the next available aircraft and depart these shores.
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‘Make Every Woman Wear a Burkha’[^] And now we see the appropriateness of the user-info image I'd used until it was removed as "religiously offensive" (anyone with eyes to see could see that it was a political statement). This Moslem bullshit will never stop until Westerners refuse to put up with it any longer -- but to effectively oppose the Islamization and dhimmification of our societies would mean admiting that we took a wrong-turn at the so-called "Enlightenment," and what are the chances of that happening before it's too late?
that mode of dress restricts free movement and could restrict their participation in sports and athletics. it's better if all men wear eye patches in both eyes and the ladies be allowed to walk around nakid. any man who takes off his eye patch in a public place should be considered a peeping tom.
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Although I would never support the view of a Muslim Britain. However, unless UK and EU law is changed, these misguided individuals have the right of free speech as long as violence is not incited then the authorities will act and arrests and prosecutions will occur, and as necessary, deportation. People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain. Those who can't or won't adapt should get onto the next available aircraft and depart these shores.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain.
you want all these people to drink warm beer ? X| X|
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‘Make Every Woman Wear a Burkha’[^] And now we see the appropriateness of the user-info image I'd used until it was removed as "religiously offensive" (anyone with eyes to see could see that it was a political statement). This Moslem bullshit will never stop until Westerners refuse to put up with it any longer -- but to effectively oppose the Islamization and dhimmification of our societies would mean admiting that we took a wrong-turn at the so-called "Enlightenment," and what are the chances of that happening before it's too late?
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Although I would never support the view of a Muslim Britain. However, unless UK and EU law is changed, these misguided individuals have the right of free speech as long as violence is not incited then the authorities will act and arrests and prosecutions will occur, and as necessary, deportation. People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain. Those who can't or won't adapt should get onto the next available aircraft and depart these shores.
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Ilíon wrote:
to effectively oppose the Islamization and dhimmification of our societies would mean admiting that we took a wrong-turn at the so-called "Enlightenment,"
How so?
Bob Emmett
Bob Emmett wrote:
How so?
We strayed from God's teachings. Or something like that. I'm sure he'll let you know.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain.
you want all these people to drink warm beer ? X| X|
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain.
you want all these people to drink warm beer ? X| X|
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying
Are bound by British law. Which customs? Which traditions? Other than Derek Ibbotson's retirement mile, I have never been to a sporting event in my life! :)
Bob Emmett
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Bob Emmett wrote:
How so?
We strayed from God's teachings. Or something like that. I'm sure he'll let you know.
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Although I would never support the view of a Muslim Britain. However, unless UK and EU law is changed, these misguided individuals have the right of free speech as long as violence is not incited then the authorities will act and arrests and prosecutions will occur, and as necessary, deportation. People who come to Britain to live, study or holidaying should adopt the laws, customs and traditions of Britain. Those who can't or won't adapt should get onto the next available aircraft and depart these shores.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
However, unless UK and EU law is changed, these misguided individuals have the right of free speech ...
Do you ... a mere kuffr ... have the right of free speech to say "Bullocks!" to them and about them? The fact is, you don't.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
... as long as violence is not incited then the authorities will act and arrests and prosecutions will occur, and as necessary, deportation.
If you believe that they you simply aren't paying attention.
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Beer is served at room temperature because it is worth tasting. Anything that has to be served ice-cold is probably not worth tasting. ;P
Bob Emmett
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Ilíon wrote:
to effectively oppose the Islamization and dhimmification of our societies would mean admiting that we took a wrong-turn at the so-called "Enlightenment,"
How so?
Bob Emmett
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73Zeppelin wrote:
We strayed from God's teachings.
We have strayed as far from Allah as we have from Yahweh. Does he think that we can only be saved from one bunch of Semetic Myths by adopting another?
Bob Emmett
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Bob Emmett wrote:
How so?
We strayed from God's teachings. Or something like that. I'm sure he'll let you know.
73Zeppelin wrote:
We strayed from God's teachings. Or something like that.
I keep trying to understand the idea of a Supreme Being that wants to see His creations murder each other over their various interpretations of Him. Since I've seen hundreds of posts like the OP that seem to be filled with hatred or when they really get going, violence, I have to assume not everyone has this problem. Don't get me wrong, I do understand, better than most, that there are times when men or nations will/must use violence to achieve their goals, I just don't understand claiming that their omnicient, omnipotent, benevolent Creator wants them to do so. :confused:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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‘Make Every Woman Wear a Burkha’[^] And now we see the appropriateness of the user-info image I'd used until it was removed as "religiously offensive" (anyone with eyes to see could see that it was a political statement). This Moslem bullshit will never stop until Westerners refuse to put up with it any longer -- but to effectively oppose the Islamization and dhimmification of our societies would mean admiting that we took a wrong-turn at the so-called "Enlightenment," and what are the chances of that happening before it's too late?
The basic issue, as I see it, is that you would take the point of view of radicals, and present it as if it were a mainstream agenda. My father wants an Australian theocracy, he wants Christianity to be law. No-one is going to jump on nut cases like him, because although I'm sure the US has them, as members of a basically Christian based society, you understand that such people are radical. without such a frame of reference into the Muslim world, it's far easier to view the radicals as if they are the mainstream, and create a climate of fear which only helps the more radical elements to achieve their aims. Yes, you are doing the terrorists dirty work. Congratulations.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
How so?
The so-called Enlightenment leads directly ... and must lead directly ... to the denial of all the things which hold a culture together.
because.... http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Enlightenment[^] How does reason destroy culture, or do you have a different definition ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Bob Emmett wrote:
How so?
The so-called Enlightenment leads directly ... and must lead directly ... to the denial of all the things which hold a culture together.
I have to disagree with you on that. The enlightenment itself was the pinnacle of western civilization. It freed christianity from the state, and established a model for limiting political power to only the enforcement of laws and a few essential responsibilities. The problem occurs when the enlightenment message is coopted by a new form of moral authoritarianism disguising itself as a product of the enlightenment but which is really a means of returning us to pre-enlightenment social and political conditions. The enlightenment was first and foremost about the liberation of humanity from centralized authoritarianism. The modern left is about anything but that.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
We strayed from God's teachings. Or something like that.
I keep trying to understand the idea of a Supreme Being that wants to see His creations murder each other over their various interpretations of Him. Since I've seen hundreds of posts like the OP that seem to be filled with hatred or when they really get going, violence, I have to assume not everyone has this problem. Don't get me wrong, I do understand, better than most, that there are times when men or nations will/must use violence to achieve their goals, I just don't understand claiming that their omnicient, omnipotent, benevolent Creator wants them to do so. :confused:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
I suspect it comes down to looking for a way to tell some blokes who just want to sit at home, work and play with their kids, that they should be willing to die for the political will of their leaders. Telling them it's the path to heaven seems like a bright way to get them to accept meaningless death.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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The basic issue, as I see it, is that you would take the point of view of radicals, and present it as if it were a mainstream agenda. My father wants an Australian theocracy, he wants Christianity to be law. No-one is going to jump on nut cases like him, because although I'm sure the US has them, as members of a basically Christian based society, you understand that such people are radical. without such a frame of reference into the Muslim world, it's far easier to view the radicals as if they are the mainstream, and create a climate of fear which only helps the more radical elements to achieve their aims. Yes, you are doing the terrorists dirty work. Congratulations.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
without such a frame of reference into the Muslim world, it's far easier to view the radicals as if they are the mainstream, and create a climate of fear which only helps the more radical elements to achieve their aims. Yes, you are doing the terrorists dirty work. Congratulations.
Thats insane. Your dad isn't training children to go into other people's contries and murder them. If he tried that, he would be stopped. The reason that happens in our society and not in muslim society is becuase there are fundamental differences between the two societies. They are not the same thing. One is better than the other. A society that does not produce international terrorism is better than one which does. That is not a 'frame of reference', it is simply a fact. And to suggest that obeserving that fact somehow causes more terrorism is simply a means of blaming your own society for faults you refuse to acknowledge in another because to do so would make you some kind of a racist. Islamic terrorism does not exist because of us. It exists because islamic civilization is just fucked up.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.