The Oregonian: Boy banned from wearing Obama mask in skit
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The Oregonian: Boy banned from wearing Obama mask in skit[^] More Obamanation: Does any rational person honestly believe that a student in this school would have been prevented, say a year ago, from wearing a mask of, say Bush, in a skit?
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Of course I do! For example: God created the Universe. God decides that wearing wool and linen together is abhorrent. Therefore, Christianity makes sense. Question: before Noah's ark, i.e. before God created rainbows, what existed instead of refraction? :confused:
The theory I heard was that it had never rained before then, in that part of the world.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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The theory I heard was that it had never rained before then, in that part of the world.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
It's not just rain that causes rainbows - there's also mist, dew, geysers, virga, sea spray etc. Anyway, didn't God flood the whole world? I assume he didn't create rainbows as a promise to never flood the world again just to desert people. And I don't buy that it had never rained there before. Also, where did all that water come from? Why is mass now suddenly and arbitrarily universally conserved? And why didn't Noah, his family and all the animals drown? That much water in the atmosphere is deadly.
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It's not just rain that causes rainbows - there's also mist, dew, geysers, virga, sea spray etc. Anyway, didn't God flood the whole world? I assume he didn't create rainbows as a promise to never flood the world again just to desert people. And I don't buy that it had never rained there before. Also, where did all that water come from? Why is mass now suddenly and arbitrarily universally conserved? And why didn't Noah, his family and all the animals drown? That much water in the atmosphere is deadly.
viagra causes rainbows ?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Anyway, didn't God flood the whole world?
Not if you read it carefully. The phrase 'the whole earth' is also used to talk about the area Cain was banished from. Adam and Eve were not the first humans, Cain was not sent to the moon, and the whole earth was not necessarily flooded, according to the bible.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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The Oregonian: Boy banned from wearing Obama mask in skit[^] More Obamanation: Does any rational person honestly believe that a student in this school would have been prevented, say a year ago, from wearing a mask of, say Bush, in a skit?
The core issue is that it's not long enough ago since your forefathers dragged his forefathers into boats and enslaved them. So, everyone is worried that anything they do to make fun of Obama will be seen as racially inspired. This doesn't mean the Obama crowd is BEHIND such feeling. I am sure that if a child HAD been stopped from wearing a Bush mask, you'd be hard pressed to find Democrats stupid enough to blame Bush for it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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viagra causes rainbows ?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Anyway, didn't God flood the whole world?
Not if you read it carefully. The phrase 'the whole earth' is also used to talk about the area Cain was banished from. Adam and Eve were not the first humans, Cain was not sent to the moon, and the whole earth was not necessarily flooded, according to the bible.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
viagra causes rainbows ?
You didn't know?
Christian Graus wrote:
Not if you read it carefully.
Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. It seems fairly unambiguous. Or maybe the Bible is intentionally attempting to deceive its readers...?
Christian Graus wrote:
The phrase 'the whole earth' is also used to talk about the area Cain was banished from.
...yeah, sometimes I use the word 'potato' to mean 'DVD player'. Is this in the same way that they use the word 'disc' to mean 'ball', despite the fact that they have a different word for 'ball'?
Christian Graus wrote:
Adam and Eve were not the first humans, Cain was not sent to the moon, and the whole earth was not necessarily flooded, according to the bible.
But God created Adam and Eve as the first humans, it says so. There's a whole boring section devoted to it! And the Bible is very clear on the matter: it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, and everything not on the ark died: 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
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Christian Graus wrote:
viagra causes rainbows ?
You didn't know?
Christian Graus wrote:
Not if you read it carefully.
Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. It seems fairly unambiguous. Or maybe the Bible is intentionally attempting to deceive its readers...?
Christian Graus wrote:
The phrase 'the whole earth' is also used to talk about the area Cain was banished from.
...yeah, sometimes I use the word 'potato' to mean 'DVD player'. Is this in the same way that they use the word 'disc' to mean 'ball', despite the fact that they have a different word for 'ball'?
Christian Graus wrote:
Adam and Eve were not the first humans, Cain was not sent to the moon, and the whole earth was not necessarily flooded, according to the bible.
But God created Adam and Eve as the first humans, it says so. There's a whole boring section devoted to it! And the Bible is very clear on the matter: it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, and everything not on the ark died: 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
As I said, the key thing to remember is that the phrase 'the face of the ground' represents the same thing as the area Cain was banished from. The other key thing is that knowing if the waters covered all the earth or not, is not really the core thing the bible is about, it doesn't particularly matter. And, don't forget, the Bible was written in Greek and Hebrew, we're reading translations.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But God created Adam and Eve as the first humans, it says so
Actually, it doesn't. Gen 1 says that He created men and women ( plural ) and Gen 2 says He formed Adam and Eve, they are two accounts of two different things, with no indication of how far apart they were. Given that the earth is a lot older than 6,000 years, this is hardly surprising. Later verses talk about there being other people about, also, obviously the people who were outside the garden all along.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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As I said, the key thing to remember is that the phrase 'the face of the ground' represents the same thing as the area Cain was banished from. The other key thing is that knowing if the waters covered all the earth or not, is not really the core thing the bible is about, it doesn't particularly matter. And, don't forget, the Bible was written in Greek and Hebrew, we're reading translations.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But God created Adam and Eve as the first humans, it says so
Actually, it doesn't. Gen 1 says that He created men and women ( plural ) and Gen 2 says He formed Adam and Eve, they are two accounts of two different things, with no indication of how far apart they were. Given that the earth is a lot older than 6,000 years, this is hardly surprising. Later verses talk about there being other people about, also, obviously the people who were outside the garden all along.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
As I said, the key thing to remember is that the phrase 'the face of the ground' represents the same thing as the area Cain was banished from. The other key thing is that knowing if the waters covered all the earth or not, is not really the core thing the bible is about, it doesn't particularly matter.
There's only one way that the flood water can be fifteen cubits above the highest mountain, and that's if it covers the entire planet. There is no way of getting around gravity. And yeah, I think it DOES matter. I could easily write a book telling people that they have to be nice to each other, but nobody would listen because they wouldn't believe it to be the inspired word of God. People do believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God. If it were to be so, God should at least show an understanding of the natural world beyond what would be expected of a mere mortal of the time. These aren't just mistranslations or misunderstandings, these Biblical stories show all of the sanity and restraint of fairy-tales.
Christian Graus wrote:
Actually, it doesn't. Gen 1 says that He created men and women ( plural ) and Gen 2 says He formed Adam and Eve, they are two accounts of two different things, with no indication of how far apart they were. Given that the earth is a lot older than 6,000 years, this is hardly surprising.
So you think it's more likely that God just majicked some people into existence, lets them do their own thing, and then creates two new people for apparently no reason? Why does he need Adam's rib to create Eve? I mean, he created women beforehand, no sweat. Why would he create them, anyway, if he knew that they were going to be tempted by one of his own creations? Why did he create the serpent? None of it makes sense!
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The core issue is that it's not long enough ago since your forefathers dragged his forefathers into boats and enslaved them. So, everyone is worried that anything they do to make fun of Obama will be seen as racially inspired. This doesn't mean the Obama crowd is BEHIND such feeling. I am sure that if a child HAD been stopped from wearing a Bush mask, you'd be hard pressed to find Democrats stupid enough to blame Bush for it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
The core issue is that it's not long enough ago since your forefathers dragged his forefathers into boats and enslaved them. So, everyone is worried that anything they do to make fun of Obama will be seen as racially inspired. This doesn't mean the Obama crowd is BEHIND such feeling. I am sure that if a child HAD been stopped from wearing a Bush mask, you'd be hard pressed to find Democrats stupid enough to blame Bush for it.
The core issue is that you're an ignorant git. Actually, and as always, the core issue is that you're intellectually dishonest (i.e. worse than a mere liar), but the phrase "ignorant git" is somewhat popular with your set.
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Wow, the school principal did something? Then Obama MUST be a bad president!
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Sorry...
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Sorry...
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Sorry...
I doubt it. "Sorry" implies a knowledge of what you did to offend and a commitment to not doing it again.
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I know I'm a crappy person, and I don't blame you for not liking me, but I need to know that I can fix people if I really try.
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The core issue is that it's not long enough ago since your forefathers dragged his forefathers into boats and enslaved them. So, everyone is worried that anything they do to make fun of Obama will be seen as racially inspired. This doesn't mean the Obama crowd is BEHIND such feeling. I am sure that if a child HAD been stopped from wearing a Bush mask, you'd be hard pressed to find Democrats stupid enough to blame Bush for it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
The core issue is that it's not long enough ago since your forefathers dragged his forefathers into boats and enslaved them.
That actually would not include Obama.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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The Oregonian: Boy banned from wearing Obama mask in skit[^] More Obamanation: Does any rational person honestly believe that a student in this school would have been prevented, say a year ago, from wearing a mask of, say Bush, in a skit?
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Bob Emmett wrote:
Can one dishonestly believe?
One would image not. And yet, "liberals" and 'atheists' (and "Darwinists," especially those called "theistic evolutionists") manage to pull it off all the time.
Well, no, one cannot; one either believes or does not believe a thing.
Ilíon wrote:
And yet, "liberals" and 'atheists' (and "Darwinists," especially those called "theistic evolutionists") manage to pull it off all the time.
That would be pretending to believe, which, while dishonest, is not believing. Are you saying that "liberals", 'atheists', and "Darwinists" (especially those called "theistic evolutionists") really believe all that you believe, but are pretending not to? Are being dishonest? To what end? Why would they perpetuate this charade?
Bob Emmett
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I know I'm a crappy person, and I don't blame you for not liking me, but I need to know that I can fix people if I really try.
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viagra causes rainbows ?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Anyway, didn't God flood the whole world?
Not if you read it carefully. The phrase 'the whole earth' is also used to talk about the area Cain was banished from. Adam and Eve were not the first humans, Cain was not sent to the moon, and the whole earth was not necessarily flooded, according to the bible.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
He said virga, not viagra. :laugh: Virga: Light wispy precipitation that evaporates before it reaches the ground (especially when the lower air is low in humidity)
Cheers, Vıkram.
Carpe Diem.