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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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    73Zeppelin wrote:

    Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

    But why? Why do you imagine yourself entitled ... and competent .. to judge and condemn his behavior? And, is there some objective standard, and what is it and where is it, on which you base your condemnation?

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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

      But why? Why do you imagine yourself entitled ... and competent .. to judge and condemn his behavior? And, is there some objective standard, and what is it and where is it, on which you base your condemnation?

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      This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence. Fortunately you know the store owner. But, if that was in the UK you would probably not get a thank you from the storekeeper, and probably arrested by the Police as being a participant in the ensuing fracas and, the storekeeper would still make you pay full price for the tomatoes and pasta and might even want compensation from you for any damage to stock and/or fittings in his shop as the result of the fracas. Trust you are OK then John.

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        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

        Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence.

        So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong." Or is it that the "wrongness" of "theft" becomes self-evident when it involves violence? Yet, one cannot help but notice that it appears (based on the limited info given) that the violence was instigated by those seeking to impose their "morality" upon a free-thinker.

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          This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

          You poor lightweight. Or, perhaps you suffer essentially the same mindset as a dhimmi toward Islam, except that you cringe toward "secularism."

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            Richard A. Abbott wrote:

            But, if that was in the UK ...

            How patriotic! Slagging off our great country to a bunch of benighted foreign johnnies ... :)

            Bob Emmett

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            Bob Emmett wrote:

            a bunch of benighted foreign johnnies

            We have daytimes, too, you know.

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              This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums

              :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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              • 7 73Zeppelin

                My night has been fun so far. A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived. He refused to return the items and kept trying to make his way to the exit. All I wanted was a can of tomaotes and some penne pasta. Why do people feel entitled to swipe stuff? The guy was better dressed than I was. If there's one thing in this world that irks me to no end, it's theft.

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                73Zeppelin wrote:

                A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived

                Good for you, John, but from what I know of you, I would've expected no less.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence.

                  So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong." Or is it that the "wrongness" of "theft" becomes self-evident when it involves violence? Yet, one cannot help but notice that it appears (based on the limited info given) that the violence was instigated by those seeking to impose their "morality" upon a free-thinker.

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                  Ilíon wrote:

                  So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong."

                  Well done there Troy, you can read but it is evident you don't comprehend the words you read.

                  Ilíon wrote:

                  free-thinker

                  The new name for the criminal act of aggravated theft? Do you class yourself as "free-thinking"?

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                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                    Theft - of course it is wrong. Especially when it involves violence.

                    So, it's self-evident that "theft" is "wrong." Or is it that the "wrongness" of "theft" becomes self-evident when it involves violence? Yet, one cannot help but notice that it appears (based on the limited info given) that the violence was instigated by those seeking to impose their "morality" upon a free-thinker.

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums.

                      You poor lightweight. Or, perhaps you suffer essentially the same mindset as a dhimmi toward Islam, except that you cringe toward "secularism."

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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      Christian Graus wrote: This post explains much about your behaviour on these forums. You poor lightweight. Or, perhaps you suffer essentially the same mindset as a dhimmi toward Islam, except that you cringe toward "secularism."

                      "Why do you imagine yourself entitled ... and competent .. to judge and condemn his behavior? And, is there some objective standard, and what is it and where is it, on which you base your condemnation?" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                      Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]

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                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                        A routine trip to the grocery store ended up with me having to restrain a rather aggressive shoplifter until the police arrived

                        Good for you, John, but from what I know of you, I would've expected no less.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Sometimes the audacity of people just amazes me. The owners were willing to just have their stuff back and ask him to leave. But I guess that was too difficult somehow.

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                          Great stuff. I doubt if I could handle that. No side effects, I trust?

                          Bob Emmett

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                          73Zeppelin
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                          No, it all resolved rather calmly in the end but for a few minutes I thought he was going to hit the wife. Thankfully, he didn't.

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            A worthy response...

                            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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