Freedom of speech
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You expect outrage from today's press? Just exactly what planet are you on? I suppose you expected a little honesty as well? You'll get little outrage from me, I'm just too burnt out to stir up even surprise at this crap, much less outrage. They're all liars or damn liars, so I pay them little heed anymore. It's now just more of what I've come to expect out of them, and anything else would have been cause for alarm.
Rob Graham wrote:
You expect outrage from today's press?
no, I expect it from citizens.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Rob Graham wrote:
You expect outrage from today's press?
no, I expect it from citizens.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
You won't get it. At about the time Al Gore's Amazing Internet was starting to take off, I worked as a broadcast engineer for a small news service that would sell news casts, fax news scripts and actuality feeds to radio stations. We had 4 targeted feeds, one for religious stations, one for rock and roll stations and one for inner city stations. News and opinion was tailored to audience on each of the feeds. Truth can only be had if several news sources are perused, then and now, it just much easier now, that said, many are too lazy. The outrage really is the hypocrisy of the legacy media, if they stated their bias and presented the news from that standpoint it wouldn't be so outrageous! You know from what perspective Mat Druge, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, CNSNews, Little Green Footballs, Pajamasmedia are coming from so you are on guard.
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You won't get it. At about the time Al Gore's Amazing Internet was starting to take off, I worked as a broadcast engineer for a small news service that would sell news casts, fax news scripts and actuality feeds to radio stations. We had 4 targeted feeds, one for religious stations, one for rock and roll stations and one for inner city stations. News and opinion was tailored to audience on each of the feeds. Truth can only be had if several news sources are perused, then and now, it just much easier now, that said, many are too lazy. The outrage really is the hypocrisy of the legacy media, if they stated their bias and presented the news from that standpoint it wouldn't be so outrageous! You know from what perspective Mat Druge, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, CNSNews, Little Green Footballs, Pajamasmedia are coming from so you are on guard.
kmg365 wrote:
The outrage really is the hypocrisy
including the hypocrisy of some of the denizens of, "The Back Room" who can get inscensed about scaring some terrorist fuckhead because it violates rights they don't have (you know, the old, "we're better than that" crap) but when a citizen's rights are violated and the violation is recorded I read some shit about the evil of ambush journalism that just by the way was not in evidence.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Oakman wrote:
Frankly, whether ambush journalism is practiced by the right or the left, it leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth
where in the fuck did you see ambush journalism? maybe from the same people that bitched about being behind fences during various Bush appearances? pretty sad when you think it is okay to handcuff a guy that is reporting on an award for faux reporting.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
pretty sad when you think it is okay to handcuff a guy that is reporting on an award for faux reporting.
Silly me. I thought when I said that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, that it was clear that I was saying that it left a bad taste in my mouth. Ambush journalism, I believe, is when someone shows up unnanounced and tries to stage a confrontation with someone else in hopes of getting a video out of it. Whether the target is Tom Tancredo, or Al Gore, it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. However, my basic belief that the government should only use its police power to protect people from physical violence and to enforce freely entered contracts remains the same. i.e. there was no need to handcuff the guy or limit his freedom of action - unless he presented a clear and present danger to someone's physical well being.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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kmg365 wrote:
The outrage really is the hypocrisy
including the hypocrisy of some of the denizens of, "The Back Room" who can get inscensed about scaring some terrorist fuckhead because it violates rights they don't have (you know, the old, "we're better than that" crap) but when a citizen's rights are violated and the violation is recorded I read some shit about the evil of ambush journalism that just by the way was not in evidence.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Y'know I almost typed what I think of your self-righteousness here, using all those same four letter words that you love to type. But I'm going to go take a piss instead.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Y'know I almost typed what I think of your self-righteousness
be my guest, I realize how much you enjoy the sound of your voice.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Oakman wrote:
Y'know I almost typed what I think of your self-righteousness
be my guest, I realize how much you enjoy the sound of your voice.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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in the fascist states of America[^]
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Those of us who have been saying this for the last decade or so could have really used your help in the past. We would have loved your support when were were concerned about free speech zones[^]. It is a pity it has taken a deficit fueled by a liberal act of nation building, an obscene lack of political and corporate ethics, and a change in political fortunes for people like you to opt for the red pill.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
modified on Friday, April 17, 2009 8:38 PM
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Those of us who have been saying this for the last decade or so could have really used your help in the past. We would have loved your support when were were concerned about free speech zones[^]. It is a pity it has taken a deficit fueled by a liberal act of nation building, an obscene lack of political and corporate ethics, and a change in political fortunes for people like you to opt for the red pill.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
modified on Friday, April 17, 2009 8:38 PM
Unfortunately there are people who support any violation of civil rights done by "their side" and cry out only when the its turnabout time. I remember being quite irritated with some of my hippie friends back in the '70's when they referred to America as "fascist." Now, some decidedly unhippie folks are using the same rhetoric.
Chris Austin wrote:
Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
I'd never heard of Ralph Charell until I started tracking him down due to the above. I really like another quote of his: "Nobody succeeds beyond his or her wildest expectations unless he or she begins with some wild expectations." It reminds me a bit of Browning's "A man's reach should exceed his grasp/or what's a heaven for?" Apparently there is no wikipedia article on him. I'm shocked. :omg:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Those of us who have been saying this for the last decade or so could have really used your help in the past. We would have loved your support when were were concerned about free speech zones[^]. It is a pity it has taken a deficit fueled by a liberal act of nation building, an obscene lack of political and corporate ethics, and a change in political fortunes for people like you to opt for the red pill.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
modified on Friday, April 17, 2009 8:38 PM
Chris Austin wrote:
It is a pity it has taken a deficit fueled by a liberal act of nation building, an obscene lack of political and corporate ethics, and a change in political fortunes for people like you to opt for the red pill.
Well said, but unfortunately he's just another whiny sore loser. It's very doubtful he would have complained about this incident had McCain won the election.
ShamWow
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Unfortunately there are people who support any violation of civil rights done by "their side" and cry out only when the its turnabout time. I remember being quite irritated with some of my hippie friends back in the '70's when they referred to America as "fascist." Now, some decidedly unhippie folks are using the same rhetoric.
Chris Austin wrote:
Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
I'd never heard of Ralph Charell until I started tracking him down due to the above. I really like another quote of his: "Nobody succeeds beyond his or her wildest expectations unless he or she begins with some wild expectations." It reminds me a bit of Browning's "A man's reach should exceed his grasp/or what's a heaven for?" Apparently there is no wikipedia article on him. I'm shocked. :omg:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Now, some decidedly unhippie folks are using the same rhetoric.
To me it is has been sadly predictable. From my point of view it is as if the world politic has become a characicature of something George Carlin would have said or Mel Brooks would have written. [Edit] There is an interesting work of Philosophy called Simulacrum and Simulation by a french Author named Jean Baudrillard that talks about how iconography is all that really matters to us and that it has replaced/altered our perception of the world. Kind of interesting even though I don't care for his obvious deeply socialistic undertones.
Oakman wrote:
I'd never heard of Ralph Charell until I started tracking him down due to the above.
Thank You. I haven't put a lot of effort (nil) into finding out who said it originally. I heard the quote in an audio book I borrowed from a friend a few years ago. Lately, it had stuck in my mind when I was deciding to sell my business.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?
modified on Friday, April 17, 2009 8:54 PM
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Chris Austin wrote:
It is a pity it has taken a deficit fueled by a liberal act of nation building, an obscene lack of political and corporate ethics, and a change in political fortunes for people like you to opt for the red pill.
Well said, but unfortunately he's just another whiny sore loser. It's very doubtful he would have complained about this incident had McCain won the election.
ShamWow
Who knows. But, I am driven mad that it has taken so long for people to wake up and realize that both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Who knows. But, I am driven mad that it has taken so long for people to wake up and realize that both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell