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  • S Stan Shannon

    Can't hollywood come up with a SF plot any more that does not invovle time travel? [^] a story that starts with a massacre and rarely draws breath for the next two hours as it unravels a deadly battle between the Federation and a rogue Romulan from the future who is bent on destroying Earth. X| Why don't they just get superman to fly around the world backwards real fast to reset the clock to before the rogue romulan showed up?

    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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    Rob Graham
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    Hollywood seems to be bankrupt when it comes to SF ideas (as does the SiFi Channel). Strange, as there are a number of good new books out there.

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      Hollywood seems to be bankrupt when it comes to SF ideas (as does the SiFi Channel). Strange, as there are a number of good new books out there.

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      Christian Graus
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      Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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        Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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        Oakman
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF movies ?

        FTFY

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        • O Oakman

          Christian Graus wrote:

          Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF movies ?

          FTFY

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Christian Graus
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          Sure, but if sci fi is not a place where the market demands intelligent films, what is ?

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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            Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF ?

            How would they know? I can't recall any movies in the past decade that would qualify.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              Perhaps there is just no money in intelligent SF ?

              How would they know? I can't recall any movies in the past decade that would qualify.

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              Yeah, I guess I meant, they fear there is no money there, and are scared to try.

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              • C Christian Graus

                Sure, but if sci fi is not a place where the market demands intelligent films, what is ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                Sure, but if sci fi is not a place where the market demands intelligent films, what is ?

                Well, I would be glad to settle for films that didn't assume their audience was stupid. However, Ginny Heinlein told me that "Starship Troopers," an abomination when compared to the book, brought more money into the Heinlein coffers than all the sales of all the books he ever wrote. Facing that truth, I'm just glad that there are still a few Science Fiction authors worth reading.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  Can't hollywood come up with a SF plot any more that does not invovle time travel? [^] a story that starts with a massacre and rarely draws breath for the next two hours as it unravels a deadly battle between the Federation and a rogue Romulan from the future who is bent on destroying Earth. X| Why don't they just get superman to fly around the world backwards real fast to reset the clock to before the rogue romulan showed up?

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  Yes they can but don't because the suits that ruin, sorry, run Hollywod just don't get SF.

                  me, me, me

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Can't hollywood come up with a SF plot any more that does not invovle time travel? [^] a story that starts with a massacre and rarely draws breath for the next two hours as it unravels a deadly battle between the Federation and a rogue Romulan from the future who is bent on destroying Earth. X| Why don't they just get superman to fly around the world backwards real fast to reset the clock to before the rogue romulan showed up?

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Surely a temporal tradgedy. Watched Peggy Sue Got Married last night.

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Can't hollywood come up with a SF plot any more that does not invovle time travel? [^] a story that starts with a massacre and rarely draws breath for the next two hours as it unravels a deadly battle between the Federation and a rogue Romulan from the future who is bent on destroying Earth. X| Why don't they just get superman to fly around the world backwards real fast to reset the clock to before the rogue romulan showed up?

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Battlefield Earth didn't. X|

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                        Battlefield Earth didn't. X|

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                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                        Battlefield Earth didn't

                        I suppose that monstrosity could be called sci-fi, but it sure as hell wasn't science-fiction.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Brady Kelly wrote:

                          Battlefield Earth didn't

                          I suppose that monstrosity could be called sci-fi, but it sure as hell wasn't science-fiction.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                          If that didn't trigger the second coming of L. Ron Hubbard, then the Scientologists are wrong and he is indeed dead.

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