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A Nation of Laws or Women?

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    Oakman
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    Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein introduced legislation to deliver $25 billion to the FDIC after the agency awarded a lucrative contract to her husband's real estate firm.[^] All for Solar Power - but Not In Her Back Yard[^] Looks like the Senate's answer to Nancy Pelosi breaks the law, rewrites the law, and ignores the law with impugnity. Unlike CIA operatives, of course, she will never face any charges or any real investigation. After all, she only grabbed 25 billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and gave it to someone who has rewarded her husband with an extremely lucrative contract. Ironically, this liberal of liberals' husband contract with FDIC means that he makes money by evicting people who cannot pay their mortgages and auctioning off their homes.

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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      Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein introduced legislation to deliver $25 billion to the FDIC after the agency awarded a lucrative contract to her husband's real estate firm.[^] All for Solar Power - but Not In Her Back Yard[^] Looks like the Senate's answer to Nancy Pelosi breaks the law, rewrites the law, and ignores the law with impugnity. Unlike CIA operatives, of course, she will never face any charges or any real investigation. After all, she only grabbed 25 billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and gave it to someone who has rewarded her husband with an extremely lucrative contract. Ironically, this liberal of liberals' husband contract with FDIC means that he makes money by evicting people who cannot pay their mortgages and auctioning off their homes.

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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      John Carson
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      You will be delighted to know that I have long thought that Feinstein was corrupt. It is a widely held view among us liberals. Of course, Feinstein is not really a liberal at all, so you will still be able to discount this as a case of selective morality.

      Oakman wrote:

      Looks like the Senate's answer to Nancy Pelosi breaks the law, rewrites the law, and ignores the law with impugnity.

      Your legal standards appear to be very flexible. Corruption is a broad area, only some of which comes under the criminal law, and even less of which it is practical to prosecute.

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        Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein introduced legislation to deliver $25 billion to the FDIC after the agency awarded a lucrative contract to her husband's real estate firm.[^] All for Solar Power - but Not In Her Back Yard[^] Looks like the Senate's answer to Nancy Pelosi breaks the law, rewrites the law, and ignores the law with impugnity. Unlike CIA operatives, of course, she will never face any charges or any real investigation. After all, she only grabbed 25 billion dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets and gave it to someone who has rewarded her husband with an extremely lucrative contract. Ironically, this liberal of liberals' husband contract with FDIC means that he makes money by evicting people who cannot pay their mortgages and auctioning off their homes.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        Oakman wrote:

        All for Solar Power - but Not In Her Back Yard[^]

        REPOST! :laugh:

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          You will be delighted to know that I have long thought that Feinstein was corrupt. It is a widely held view among us liberals. Of course, Feinstein is not really a liberal at all, so you will still be able to discount this as a case of selective morality.

          Oakman wrote:

          Looks like the Senate's answer to Nancy Pelosi breaks the law, rewrites the law, and ignores the law with impugnity.

          Your legal standards appear to be very flexible. Corruption is a broad area, only some of which comes under the criminal law, and even less of which it is practical to prosecute.

          John Carson

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          John Carson wrote:

          Corruption is a broad area, only some of which comes under the criminal law, and even less of which it is practical to prosecute.

          I'm pretty sure that soliciting a bribe is both corruption and criminal.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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            John Carson wrote:

            Corruption is a broad area, only some of which comes under the criminal law, and even less of which it is practical to prosecute.

            I'm pretty sure that soliciting a bribe is both corruption and criminal.

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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            Oakman wrote:

            I'm pretty sure that soliciting a bribe is both corruption and criminal.

            I'm pretty sure that that is not what the article described. Still, it looks very dodgy and I'm all for an investigation. If the end result is that her arse gets thrown in jail, that will be fine by me.

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              Oakman wrote:

              I'm pretty sure that soliciting a bribe is both corruption and criminal.

              I'm pretty sure that that is not what the article described. Still, it looks very dodgy and I'm all for an investigation. If the end result is that her arse gets thrown in jail, that will be fine by me.

              John Carson

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              John Carson wrote:

              I'm pretty sure that that is not what the article described.

              WASHINGTON - Sen. Dianne Feinstein offered to help secure federal funds for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. just days before the agency awarded a contract to her husband's company in the housing foreclosure crisis.[^] Mrs. Feinstein’s intervention on behalf of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was unusual: the California Democrat isn’t a member of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs with jurisdiction over FDIC; and the agency is supposed to operate from money it raises from bank-paid insurance payments - not direct federal dollars.[^] About the same time of the contract award, Mr. Blum’s private investment firm reported to the Securities and Exchange Commission that it and related affiliates had purchased more than 10 million new shares in CBRE. The shares were purchased for the going price of $3.77; CBRE’s stock closed Monday at $5.14.[^]

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                John Carson wrote:

                I'm pretty sure that that is not what the article described.

                WASHINGTON - Sen. Dianne Feinstein offered to help secure federal funds for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. just days before the agency awarded a contract to her husband's company in the housing foreclosure crisis.[^] Mrs. Feinstein’s intervention on behalf of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was unusual: the California Democrat isn’t a member of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs with jurisdiction over FDIC; and the agency is supposed to operate from money it raises from bank-paid insurance payments - not direct federal dollars.[^] About the same time of the contract award, Mr. Blum’s private investment firm reported to the Securities and Exchange Commission that it and related affiliates had purchased more than 10 million new shares in CBRE. The shares were purchased for the going price of $3.77; CBRE’s stock closed Monday at $5.14.[^]

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                Yeah I read all that, but it is not the description of a solicitation of a bribe. All we have is a (suspicious) coincidence of events, against which there are claims of institutional separation between various actors in the play. Incidentally, did you notice that the first article says that the FDIC didn't get the funds, Feinstein's backing notwithstanding?

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                  Yeah I read all that, but it is not the description of a solicitation of a bribe. All we have is a (suspicious) coincidence of events, against which there are claims of institutional separation between various actors in the play. Incidentally, did you notice that the first article says that the FDIC didn't get the funds, Feinstein's backing notwithstanding?

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                  John Carson wrote:

                  claims of institutional separation between various actors

                  Are you saying she doesn't sleep with her husband? :rolleyes:

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                    Yeah I read all that, but it is not the description of a solicitation of a bribe. All we have is a (suspicious) coincidence of events, against which there are claims of institutional separation between various actors in the play. Incidentally, did you notice that the first article says that the FDIC didn't get the funds, Feinstein's backing notwithstanding?

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                    John Carson wrote:

                    All we have is a (suspicious) coincidence of events

                    Yeah, like the sky getting brighter and the sun showing up on the horizon.

                    John Carson wrote:

                    Incidentally, did you notice that the first article says that the FDIC didn't get the funds, Feinstein's backing notwithstanding?

                    That just goes to show how dumb the FDIC is - "don't bribe someone who can't deliver," is my motto.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      John Carson wrote:

                      claims of institutional separation between various actors

                      Are you saying she doesn't sleep with her husband? :rolleyes:

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                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      Are you saying she doesn't sleep with her husband?

                      If you read through the articles, there are two claims. The strongest is that the FDIC people responsible for the awarding of contracts have a strict separation from the FDIC board that was pushing for the legislation granting funds. The other is that Feinstein's husband has no executive involvement in the operations of the firm and had no knowledge of the bid for the FDIC contract. I don't like Feinstein and don't like any situation in which a legislator or a legislator's family is involved in financial dealings that are connected in any way with legislation. I wouldn't shed any tears if evidence emerged that could nail her with a serious criminal offence. However, to claim that the contract awarded to the company of Feinstein's husband was an FDIC bribe to Feinstein for legislative support is something that goes well beyond what the evidence can (currently) sustain.

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