Being saved by the ozone hole?

Oakman

I saw this being "explained" on Fox tonight. I laughed my ass off. My favorite part was when the oh-so concerned environmentalist explained that when the hole in the Ozone healed itself then the Antartic would begin to melt once more. Apparently the best way to save the ice is to start spraying freon into the atmosphere immediately.

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Stan Shannon

The really funny part is that some have suggested distributing reflective particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect sun light and cool the earth. And, shit, we were already doing it!

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

I think that, with Obama leading the fight, we are going to be gloriously successful at fighting global warming. Within a relatively short time we will have eliminated greenhouse gases by 99%. At which point the gradual cooling of the earth that started in the 40's will resume and within a few years Ohio will be under a glacier and South Carolina will have snow six months of the year. The sea levels will rise until NYC is six feet under water. Mayor Bloomberg will immediately announce a tax on aqualungs in order to provide flippers to the homeless. Meanwhile the vast migration south will cause Mexico to attempt to build a wall at the border, but they will be unable to stop the flood of illegal aliens into their country. . . :laugh:

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Mike Gaskey

Oakman wrote:

with Obama leading

JOTD

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

kmg365

I have a 70's frig. Your article has convinced me to get my machette and rip it's out it's freon heat exchanger in the front yard to save the planet. ...but I like my fridge and it's full of Bud Ice... let me sleep on it.

Ilion

Oakman wrote:

Meanwhile the vast migration south will cause Mexico to attempt to build a wall at the border, but they will be unable to stop the flood of illegal aliens into their country. . . :laugh:

Snowbacks? Icebacks?

Ilion

Isn't the ozone hole, at least in part, related to earth's magnetic field -- which, by the by, is decaying.

soap brain

Ilíon wrote:

which, by the by, is decaying.

No it isn't. That's just creationist garbage.

Ilion

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

No it isn't.

Apparently, you're ignorant.

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

That's just creationist garbage.

Oh! My bad; you merely a fool.

soap brain

You're a gullible moron if you think "Dr" Barnes used valid theories, valid data, and valid conclusions when he formulated that worthless junk. You're an idiot and you should stick to reading your little bloggers' and journalists' articles and stay away from things with genuine intellectual merit.

_Damian S_

You used to be such a nice boy...

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soap brain

I don't know what to do.

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Ilion

_Damian S_ wrote:

You used to be such a nice boy...

When he was in the midst of the Terrible Twos? It's for sure that he was never nice when anyone here has known him.

Ilion

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

You're a gullible moron if you think "Dr" Barnes used valid theories, valid data, and valid conclusions when he formulated that worthless junk. You're an idiot and you should stick to reading your little bloggers' and journalists' articles and stay away from things with genuine intellectual merit.

Whatever are you on about, you pathetically intellectually-dishonest fool? Wikipedia: Earth's magnetic field - Magnetic field detection[^]

The Earth's magnetic field strength was measured by Carl Friedrich Gauss in 1835 and has been repeatedly measured since then, showing a relative decay of about 5% over the last 150 years ...

Ilion · modified on Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:59 AM

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

I don't know what to do.

Stop being an attention-seeking fool? Figure out that there may be a reason that people tend to ignore you?

soap brain

You fail again. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/magnetic.htm[^] "In 1971, Barnes pointed out that, according to the data he had, the strength of the dipole component of the earth's magnetic field (measured in a unit known as a "gauss") has decreased between six and seven percent since it was first measured in 1835. Barnes then made the assumption that ALL of the non-dipole measurements constituted meaningless "noise", and asserted that only the dipole elements of the magnetic field are generated by the core. He further concluded that, because of the measured decrease in field strength, this dipole field must be decaying exponentially, with a half-life of approximately 1,400 years. Thus, Barnes calculated, by about 10,000 years ago, the earth's magnetic field would have so strong that life would have been impossible. Therefore, he concluded, the earth cannot be more than 10,000 years old. ... The Barnes/Humphreys hypothesis does not stand up to analysis. Barnes is correct that the dipole element of the magnetic field has indeed decreased in strength since the 19th century. However, as geologist Brent Dalrymple points out, "Barnes completely neglects the nondipole field. The same observatory measurements that show that the dipole moment has decreased since the early 1800's also show that this decrease has almost been completely balanced by an increase in the strength of the total observed field which has remained almost constant.""

Ilion

Once again, what moronic jag are you on? Scientific measurments of Earth's magnetic field over the past century and a half show it to be decaying. But then, you "science" worshippers never really care about actual science or actual scientific results/findings, do you?

soap brain

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soap brain

Ilíon wrote:

Scientific measurments of Earth's magnetic field over the past century and a half show it to be decaying.

It's shown the dipole to be decreasing.

Ilíon wrote:

But then, you "science" worshippers never really care about actual science or actual scientific results/findings, do you?

Consider this: Creationist 'scientists' have a great deal to be gained by producing specific results, i.e. ones that point to a young earth. They will lie and falsify information in order to obtain these results, and then they sell their books and religion and whatever else. Actual scientists, on the other hand, only make money and earn a good reputation by discovering breakthroughs, and publishing in prestigious journals, and making very reliable and trustworthy experiments, and NOT conspiring against the Christian community.

soap brain

Ilíon wrote:

It's for sure that he was never nice when anyone here has known him.

I was even nice to you, for a time. But it's hard to like someone who only likes himself.