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  • L Lost User

    Is it you thats on Prozac? I seem to recall I had a conversation along the lines of how bad psychadelic drugs really are.

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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    Brady Kelly
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    fat_boy wrote:

    Is it you thats on Prozac?

    Not quite Prozac: I have moved on to better meds, but yes, I think it's me you mean. While I may agree or even highlight how bad psychedelics can be, I would never, ever, argue or agree that they are bad.

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      fat_boy wrote:

      Is it you thats on Prozac?

      Not quite Prozac: I have moved on to better meds, but yes, I think it's me you mean. While I may agree or even highlight how bad psychedelics can be, I would never, ever, argue or agree that they are bad.

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      I bet you wish you could see what life would have been like had you not taken psychadelics in your youth though. Also, would you advise a young person for or against taken psychadelics as opposed to as opposed to using a traditional, and very nice drug, such as alcohol?

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        I bet you wish you could see what life would have been like had you not taken psychadelics in your youth though. Also, would you advise a young person for or against taken psychadelics as opposed to as opposed to using a traditional, and very nice drug, such as alcohol?

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        fat_boy wrote:

        I bet you wish you could see what life would have been like had you not taken psychadelics in your youth though.

        Although curious, to see if there is any evidence to counter my conviction that psychedelics had no permanent effect on me, no, I really don't wish I could see what life would have been like.

        fat_boy wrote:

        Also, would you advise a young person for or against taken psychadelics as opposed to as opposed to using a traditional, and very nice drug, such as alcohol?

        I do wish I could see what life would have been like if I didn't spend more than ten years, starting in my twenties, with most of my free time in an alcoholic haze. I would advise a young person against alcohol beyond occasional drinks , and would advise them, if interested, to do a great deal of learning about psychedelics before making their own decision regarding the use thereof. I would advise them very strongly to finish school before experimenting, as the learning experience provided by psychedelics can be very distracting.

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        • L Lost User

          I bet you wish you could see what life would have been like had you not taken psychadelics in your youth though. Also, would you advise a young person for or against taken psychadelics as opposed to as opposed to using a traditional, and very nice drug, such as alcohol?

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          I took mushrooms in my youth. I can see how they would cause issues for some people, but I don't believe they have affected my life in any way.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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          • S soap brain

            Isn't that film by that ranting conspiracy theorist?

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            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

            Isn't that film by that ranting conspiracy theorist?

            I don't like the term conspiracy theorist, its discrediting.

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              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

              Isn't that film by that ranting conspiracy theorist?

              I don't like the term conspiracy theorist, its discrediting.

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              Intel 4004 wrote:

              I don't like the term conspiracy theorist, its discrediting.

              And true. You're an idiot if you think you have some brilliant insight into how the world works.

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                Intel 4004 wrote:

                I don't like the term conspiracy theorist, its discrediting.

                And true. You're an idiot if you think you have some brilliant insight into how the world works.

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                Captain See Sharp
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                Oh shut up. I know what I'm talking about. You are the idiot. You think government is wonderful, especially world government.

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  fat_boy wrote:

                  I bet you wish you could see what life would have been like had you not taken psychadelics in your youth though.

                  Although curious, to see if there is any evidence to counter my conviction that psychedelics had no permanent effect on me, no, I really don't wish I could see what life would have been like.

                  fat_boy wrote:

                  Also, would you advise a young person for or against taken psychadelics as opposed to as opposed to using a traditional, and very nice drug, such as alcohol?

                  I do wish I could see what life would have been like if I didn't spend more than ten years, starting in my twenties, with most of my free time in an alcoholic haze. I would advise a young person against alcohol beyond occasional drinks , and would advise them, if interested, to do a great deal of learning about psychedelics before making their own decision regarding the use thereof. I would advise them very strongly to finish school before experimenting, as the learning experience provided by psychedelics can be very distracting.

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                  Lost User
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                  Brady Kelly wrote:

                  if I didn't spend more than ten years, starting in my twenties, with most of my free time in an alcoholic haze

                  Yeah, drugs is drugs. SOme of us just like getting of our faces.

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    I took mushrooms in my youth. I can see how they would cause issues for some people, but I don't believe they have affected my life in any way.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I took mushrooms in my youth.

                    How much though? I pretty much lived on weed for five years. Did a bit of mushrooms and some acid too. Have to say, in hind sight, I perhaps wish I hadnt. They do something to your brain, they remove your self-existance. Maybee thats the point, but living a normal life afterwards without a sense of self is quite difficult. Its OK for an artist perhaps. It would be interesting to know what different a course life would have taken if I hadnt indulged myself so freely at the time.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    • L Lost User

                      Brady Kelly wrote:

                      if I didn't spend more than ten years, starting in my twenties, with most of my free time in an alcoholic haze

                      Yeah, drugs is drugs. SOme of us just like getting of our faces.

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      I love getting off my face, but my problem was[1], with alcohol, it wasn't just Friday or Saturday. Sunday is a follow on from Saturday, because, well, I feel so shit drinking is the only comfortable pastime left. Then, Monday is a slow-down from Sunday. A few years ago, Monday was the pub night. Everyone gathered to take the edge off a long day after Sunday, and swap 'war stories' about whose weekend was roughest. I mellowed from that, to just a quick four pints on the way home and to bed, but that meant I was only really 'clean' and healthy by Wednesday. I'm not projecting my self control issues onto others, but its been my experience that alcohol lends itself to these kinds of problems, and would caution anybody who would listen about them. [1] I speak tentatively and optimistically in the past tense, but I only have two months abstinence behind me, the longest I've ever gone without any drink since I started drinking, when I was sixteen or seventeen.

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                        I love getting off my face, but my problem was[1], with alcohol, it wasn't just Friday or Saturday. Sunday is a follow on from Saturday, because, well, I feel so shit drinking is the only comfortable pastime left. Then, Monday is a slow-down from Sunday. A few years ago, Monday was the pub night. Everyone gathered to take the edge off a long day after Sunday, and swap 'war stories' about whose weekend was roughest. I mellowed from that, to just a quick four pints on the way home and to bed, but that meant I was only really 'clean' and healthy by Wednesday. I'm not projecting my self control issues onto others, but its been my experience that alcohol lends itself to these kinds of problems, and would caution anybody who would listen about them. [1] I speak tentatively and optimistically in the past tense, but I only have two months abstinence behind me, the longest I've ever gone without any drink since I started drinking, when I was sixteen or seventeen.

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                        I dont have a problem with drink like this. I can drink quite a bit for a time and then not drink for a few days, or only drink a glass of wine or two. And then get a bit hammered say one night at the weekend. In fact I am just not an addictive personality type. I can quit smoking for a week, and then when I go out cane a few packs of fags, or even smoke for a week or two, and then stop again for a week. If you feel like shit, and I assume its not because you are hung over, then have you ever thought of some kind of couselling? It could be you have some issues that are driving your behaviour subconciously that could be resolved quite simply.

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                        • L Lost User

                          I dont have a problem with drink like this. I can drink quite a bit for a time and then not drink for a few days, or only drink a glass of wine or two. And then get a bit hammered say one night at the weekend. In fact I am just not an addictive personality type. I can quit smoking for a week, and then when I go out cane a few packs of fags, or even smoke for a week or two, and then stop again for a week. If you feel like shit, and I assume its not because you are hung over, then have you ever thought of some kind of couselling? It could be you have some issues that are driving your behaviour subconciously that could be resolved quite simply.

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          If you feel like sh*t

                          Thank for the advice, but my feeling like shit was because I was hung over. I meant I feel like shit on a Sunday, after drinking all Saturday. I don't normally feel like shit. As for the need for meds, I find a chemical solution, prescribed by an esteemed doctor, to work very well, suggesting that the underlying cause is actually chemical. This I blame of years of chronic alcohol abuse and bad diet, and now that I am addressing these, I foresee me tapering off the meds as my natural system regains it's proper equilibrium.

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