How the Federal Reserve is used to seize power.
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This is a good informative video. It explains how the federal reserve works, its history, and the history of central banks around the world, most of all its relevant to today's situation.[^] The Fed creates new money and loans it out with interest to banks and to the government, the Fed is a private entity. When the government needs money, the Fed buys bonds with fake money and the tax payers are the security for the loan. So essentially the Fed us soaking up money from everyone at all times. Most of all they manipulate the money supply causing depressions, then they buy up property and businesses. This gives them tremendous power. The Fed has NEVER been audited.
How is this NOT 'everything is someone elses fault and they are manipulating me with their great powers that are out of my control' ? How is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory that feeds your own sense of powerlessness and inadequacy ?
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Intel 4004 wrote:
The Fed has NEVER been audited.
Since the Fed can print money at will, what would the point be of auditing them? Who would do the audit? the idiots in Congress, or the idiots and thieves at Treasury? (BTW, the FEDERAL RESERVE both buys and sells bonds, and prints currency and mints coinage...). The FED is NOT a wholly private organization, but rather a Quasi-governmental agency that is partly private, and partly an agency of the Treasury. They do not buy property or businesses, except as commercial paper... They have no need to "seize power" as they are granted as much as they need under a number of different laws...
You're obviously a blind sheep, unable to see the truth.....
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You're obviously a blind sheep, unable to see the truth.....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
LOL. Where can I get help for my condition, or is it too late? Am I doomed?
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How is this NOT 'everything is someone elses fault and they are manipulating me with their great powers that are out of my control' ? How is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory that feeds your own sense of powerlessness and inadequacy ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
How is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory that feeds your own sense of powerlessness and inadequacy ?
You have a group of power hungry individuals who use that power given to them to accomplish their goals of a New World Order. Having the power over money gives them the means to do what they wish with people's money. Instead of calling it a conspiracy theory (which it is not) why don't you kick your brain into high gear and study the federal reserve and other central banks? Is that just too much for you to handle? This isn't something I use to blame others. I have always been interested how money and the banking system works. After reading all about it over a years time I see that the system is flawed in that it allows these world leaders and power brokers too much power and control over nations. Currency is like the blood of civilization, take control of that and you can manipulate civilizations anyway you please.
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LOL. Where can I get help for my condition, or is it too late? Am I doomed?
No, you can be free. Just buy this burned DVD for $200 and don't question it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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Intel 4004 wrote:
The Fed has NEVER been audited.
Since the Fed can print money at will, what would the point be of auditing them? Who would do the audit? the idiots in Congress, or the idiots and thieves at Treasury? (BTW, the FEDERAL RESERVE both buys and sells bonds, and prints currency and mints coinage...). The FED is NOT a wholly private organization, but rather a Quasi-governmental agency that is partly private, and partly an agency of the Treasury. They do not buy property or businesses, except as commercial paper... They have no need to "seize power" as they are granted as much as they need under a number of different laws...
Cant you at least agree that it is wrong to inflate the money supply (taking the value out of everyone's money) then loaning that out at interest? Imagine printing counterfeit money, then loaning that out with interest, surely you can see that is wrong?
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Christian Graus wrote:
How is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory that feeds your own sense of powerlessness and inadequacy ?
You have a group of power hungry individuals who use that power given to them to accomplish their goals of a New World Order. Having the power over money gives them the means to do what they wish with people's money. Instead of calling it a conspiracy theory (which it is not) why don't you kick your brain into high gear and study the federal reserve and other central banks? Is that just too much for you to handle? This isn't something I use to blame others. I have always been interested how money and the banking system works. After reading all about it over a years time I see that the system is flawed in that it allows these world leaders and power brokers too much power and control over nations. Currency is like the blood of civilization, take control of that and you can manipulate civilizations anyway you please.
Intel 4004 wrote:
You have a group of power hungry individuals who use that power given to them to accomplish their goals of a New World Order.
OK, so you responded to 'how is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory', with more bizarre conspiracy theories ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
Having the power over money gives them the means to do what they wish with people's money
I guess if you had any money, then they would scare you even more....
Intel 4004 wrote:
Instead of calling it a conspiracy theory (which it is not)
It's not true, and it assumes some group has great power which it is using against you. That makes it a conspiracy theory.
Intel 4004 wrote:
why don't you kick your brain into high gear and study the federal reserve and other central banks?
Here is the issue. You study NONE of these things. All you do is trawl conspiracy sites and believe everything they tell you. Anyone who questions is called weak minded. That's because the conspiracy does not stand up to close examination, only slavish devotion. My dad used to believe all this sort of stuff, I've been exposed to these sort of theories since before you were a glint in the unemployed crack heads eye. As a teenager, I found it all fascinating, but I soon worked out that it was all bunk. Sure, if I hear something new, I am not unwilling to examine the evidence, but the same old conspiracies just keep getting dressed up differently. The core issue is that illiterate conservative Christians believe that the Bible predicts a satanic new world order, so they search for it because they assume it must be there.
Intel 4004 wrote:
the system is flawed in that it allows these world leaders and power brokers too much power and control over nations
Well, that much is true. The US tries too hard to not regulate anything, and instead bends over for the lobbyist with the most cash. A free market will always screw you, because it only looks out for itself. But there's no grand conspiracy, it's just that every man is putting as much as he can in his own pile.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with th
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Intel 4004 wrote:
You have a group of power hungry individuals who use that power given to them to accomplish their goals of a New World Order.
OK, so you responded to 'how is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory', with more bizarre conspiracy theories ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
Having the power over money gives them the means to do what they wish with people's money
I guess if you had any money, then they would scare you even more....
Intel 4004 wrote:
Instead of calling it a conspiracy theory (which it is not)
It's not true, and it assumes some group has great power which it is using against you. That makes it a conspiracy theory.
Intel 4004 wrote:
why don't you kick your brain into high gear and study the federal reserve and other central banks?
Here is the issue. You study NONE of these things. All you do is trawl conspiracy sites and believe everything they tell you. Anyone who questions is called weak minded. That's because the conspiracy does not stand up to close examination, only slavish devotion. My dad used to believe all this sort of stuff, I've been exposed to these sort of theories since before you were a glint in the unemployed crack heads eye. As a teenager, I found it all fascinating, but I soon worked out that it was all bunk. Sure, if I hear something new, I am not unwilling to examine the evidence, but the same old conspiracies just keep getting dressed up differently. The core issue is that illiterate conservative Christians believe that the Bible predicts a satanic new world order, so they search for it because they assume it must be there.
Intel 4004 wrote:
the system is flawed in that it allows these world leaders and power brokers too much power and control over nations
Well, that much is true. The US tries too hard to not regulate anything, and instead bends over for the lobbyist with the most cash. A free market will always screw you, because it only looks out for itself. But there's no grand conspiracy, it's just that every man is putting as much as he can in his own pile.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with th
Christian Graus wrote:
OK, so you responded to 'how is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory', with more bizarre conspiracy theories ?
Are you blind or just plain stupid? The term New World Order or sometimes referred to as "a new order to the world" has been said by presidents and the like for over a century. A new world order, that means a new power structure of all nations and all people. You are as stupid as a mule and there is no point in even trying to argue with you because you are set in stone, you are too simple minded and refuse to see anything unpleasant. You are just like those Bible Thumping Christians, simple minded people who refuse to see reality for what it is. You give no good valid reasons as to why I'm wrong, instead you shout CONSPIRACY like in the old days they shouted WITCH. Then you go on with worthless personal insults. WTF
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Cant you at least agree that it is wrong to inflate the money supply (taking the value out of everyone's money) then loaning that out at interest? Imagine printing counterfeit money, then loaning that out with interest, surely you can see that is wrong?
That they just printed a ton of it, is wrong. But, whoever prints the money, someone has to. And printing money obviously devalues the money out there.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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No, you can be free. Just buy this burned DVD for $200 and don't question it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote: Just buy this burned DVD for $200 and don't question it. Do I need to wear the aluminum beanie while watching it, or only when I go outside?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Christian Graus wrote:
OK, so you responded to 'how is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory', with more bizarre conspiracy theories ?
Are you blind or just plain stupid? The term New World Order or sometimes referred to as "a new order to the world" has been said by presidents and the like for over a century. A new world order, that means a new power structure of all nations and all people. You are as stupid as a mule and there is no point in even trying to argue with you because you are set in stone, you are too simple minded and refuse to see anything unpleasant. You are just like those Bible Thumping Christians, simple minded people who refuse to see reality for what it is. You give no good valid reasons as to why I'm wrong, instead you shout CONSPIRACY like in the old days they shouted WITCH. Then you go on with worthless personal insults. WTF
Intel 4004 wrote:
Are you blind or just plain stupid?
I dunno, which one are you ? I'm the other.
Intel 4004 wrote:
he term New World Order or sometimes referred to as "a new order to the world" has been said by presidents and the like for over a century.
Yes, it has. But that doesn't mean that they mean what you mean by it.
Intel 4004 wrote:
You are just like those Bible Thumping Christians, simple minded people who refuse to see reality for what it is.
This is the bit I find hilarious. The Bible Thumping Christians are the SOURCE of these conspiracy theories. And yes, they are stupid, simple minded people.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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Christian Graus wrote: Just buy this burned DVD for $200 and don't question it. Do I need to wear the aluminum beanie while watching it, or only when I go outside?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
You should line the room with foil, but don't wear a beanie, or the truth may not penetrate to your brain.....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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Intel 4004 wrote:
Are you blind or just plain stupid?
I dunno, which one are you ? I'm the other.
Intel 4004 wrote:
he term New World Order or sometimes referred to as "a new order to the world" has been said by presidents and the like for over a century.
Yes, it has. But that doesn't mean that they mean what you mean by it.
Intel 4004 wrote:
You are just like those Bible Thumping Christians, simple minded people who refuse to see reality for what it is.
This is the bit I find hilarious. The Bible Thumping Christians are the SOURCE of these conspiracy theories. And yes, they are stupid, simple minded people.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
We can go on and on forever about this. It goes like this.
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We can go on and on forever about this. It goes like this.
while(true)
Christian.Deny();And it WOULD go on forever, because you don't actually reply to anything that is said, except to reiterate the conspiracists mantra : you're weak, the truth is before your eyes, but you can't handle it. Feeling you know something others do not, or understand something others cannot, gives you the feeling that you're better than they are, which is half the point, at the end of the day.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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And it WOULD go on forever, because you don't actually reply to anything that is said, except to reiterate the conspiracists mantra : you're weak, the truth is before your eyes, but you can't handle it. Feeling you know something others do not, or understand something others cannot, gives you the feeling that you're better than they are, which is half the point, at the end of the day.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
because you don't actually reply to anything that is said
You don't actually know anything about politics and thats why you won't try to prove me wrong. Instead you shout CONSPIRACY and blow your whistle. Simple minded folk like you don't like to think for themselves. They just let the TV do it for them. Its a real shame. Submit yourself to your superiors, they know whats best for you. Like a good dog you are.
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No, you can be free. Just buy this burned DVD for $200 and don't question it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
No, you can be free. Just buy this burned DVD for $200 and don't question it.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I thought that with the other post to a video he made yesterday. I always enjoy well thought out conspiracy theories, it's my substitute for zombie movies. But, when I followed the link to the site that had supposedly posted the video to youtube it was just a crappy storefront for a bunch of frigging merchandise. Disappointing. :)
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Christian Graus wrote:
because you don't actually reply to anything that is said
You don't actually know anything about politics and thats why you won't try to prove me wrong. Instead you shout CONSPIRACY and blow your whistle. Simple minded folk like you don't like to think for themselves. They just let the TV do it for them. Its a real shame. Submit yourself to your superiors, they know whats best for you. Like a good dog you are.
Intel 4004 wrote:
You don't actually know anything about politics
On what do you base this ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
thats why you won't try to prove me wrong
You just don't notice when I prove you wrong.
Intel 4004 wrote:
Simple minded folk like you don't like to think for themselves
There it is again. Saying this over and over won't prove you right, although it obviously makes you feel better.
Intel 4004 wrote:
They just let the TV do it for them
I watch zero television. I program computers, play guitar, work in the garden, have sex. Have you ever done any of those things ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
Its a real shame.
The point I'd most love you to address is the fact that any talk of new world order conspiracies is driven by right wing Christians. They invent this stuff to suit their beliefs. And you fall for it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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Intel 4004 wrote:
You have a group of power hungry individuals who use that power given to them to accomplish their goals of a New World Order.
OK, so you responded to 'how is this not a bizarre conspiracy theory', with more bizarre conspiracy theories ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
Having the power over money gives them the means to do what they wish with people's money
I guess if you had any money, then they would scare you even more....
Intel 4004 wrote:
Instead of calling it a conspiracy theory (which it is not)
It's not true, and it assumes some group has great power which it is using against you. That makes it a conspiracy theory.
Intel 4004 wrote:
why don't you kick your brain into high gear and study the federal reserve and other central banks?
Here is the issue. You study NONE of these things. All you do is trawl conspiracy sites and believe everything they tell you. Anyone who questions is called weak minded. That's because the conspiracy does not stand up to close examination, only slavish devotion. My dad used to believe all this sort of stuff, I've been exposed to these sort of theories since before you were a glint in the unemployed crack heads eye. As a teenager, I found it all fascinating, but I soon worked out that it was all bunk. Sure, if I hear something new, I am not unwilling to examine the evidence, but the same old conspiracies just keep getting dressed up differently. The core issue is that illiterate conservative Christians believe that the Bible predicts a satanic new world order, so they search for it because they assume it must be there.
Intel 4004 wrote:
the system is flawed in that it allows these world leaders and power brokers too much power and control over nations
Well, that much is true. The US tries too hard to not regulate anything, and instead bends over for the lobbyist with the most cash. A free market will always screw you, because it only looks out for itself. But there's no grand conspiracy, it's just that every man is putting as much as he can in his own pile.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with th
Christian Graus wrote: You study NONE of these things. All you do is trawl conspiracy sites and believe everything they tell you. He's spent his whole life trying to get the gain without the pain. School dropout because they expected him to study; can't keep a job because they expect him to work; can't program because he want to be a senior dev before he's written any code worth keeping. Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Intel 4004 wrote:
You don't actually know anything about politics
On what do you base this ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
thats why you won't try to prove me wrong
You just don't notice when I prove you wrong.
Intel 4004 wrote:
Simple minded folk like you don't like to think for themselves
There it is again. Saying this over and over won't prove you right, although it obviously makes you feel better.
Intel 4004 wrote:
They just let the TV do it for them
I watch zero television. I program computers, play guitar, work in the garden, have sex. Have you ever done any of those things ?
Intel 4004 wrote:
Its a real shame.
The point I'd most love you to address is the fact that any talk of new world order conspiracies is driven by right wing Christians. They invent this stuff to suit their beliefs. And you fall for it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
On what do you base this ?
You are a pacifist. You don't care, you just want to fiddle on your computer and guitar, and poke around inside your wife. Just as I said, a simple minded good dog.
Christian Graus wrote:
You just don't notice when I prove you wrong.
Thats because you didn't.
Christian Graus wrote:
There it is again. Saying this over and over won't prove you right, although it obviously makes you feel better.
I don't need your approval. I know whats right.
Christian Graus wrote:
I program computers, play guitar, work in the garden, have sex. Have you ever done any of those things ?
I've done all of those things.
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Christian Graus wrote: You study NONE of these things. All you do is trawl conspiracy sites and believe everything they tell you. He's spent his whole life trying to get the gain without the pain. School dropout because they expected him to study; can't keep a job because they expect him to work; can't program because he want to be a senior dev before he's written any code worth keeping. Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
I was amused below where he had a dig at you for having been married three times. That just means you've had at least 3 more sexual partners than him, how is that a sign of failure ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )