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  • O Oakman

    Christian Graus wrote: You study NONE of these things. All you do is trawl conspiracy sites and believe everything they tell you. He's spent his whole life trying to get the gain without the pain. School dropout because they expected him to study; can't keep a job because they expect him to work; can't program because he want to be a senior dev before he's written any code worth keeping. Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.

    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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    Oakman wrote:

    He's spent his whole life trying to get the gain without the pain. School dropout because they expected him to study; can't keep a job because they expect him to work; can't program because he want to be a senior dev before he's written any code worth keeping. Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.

    Oh bullshit. I have my Diploma, my line of work is tough and nobody sticks around for too long. Its just the way it is. I plan on going to college and going into my real career which is IT or computer programming. I've tried the low level entry jobs working on computers, but cooking is a hell of a lot better than that entry level computer crap and it pays the same. I can at least keep my sanity when I'm cooking unlike when I'm working on a computer with some jackass telling me the cookies are what make the computer work. :doh:

    Oakman wrote:

    Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.

    I know exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe someday I will write a throughout report on the subject but I feel it will be a waste of time because after all that work I will get replies about tinfoil.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      On what do you base this ?

      You are a pacifist. You don't care, you just want to fiddle on your computer and guitar, and poke around inside your wife. Just as I said, a simple minded good dog.

      Christian Graus wrote:

      You just don't notice when I prove you wrong.

      Thats because you didn't.

      Christian Graus wrote:

      There it is again. Saying this over and over won't prove you right, although it obviously makes you feel better.

      I don't need your approval. I know whats right.

      Christian Graus wrote:

      I program computers, play guitar, work in the garden, have sex. Have you ever done any of those things ?

      I've done all of those things.

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      Intel 4004 wrote:

      You are a pacifist

      My views on this fall somewhere between extreme left and right wing views. On what basis do you claim to know them ?

      Intel 4004 wrote:

      You don't care

      It is true that I have a lot more money than you, and a lot more security in my life, so I see any 'conspiracy' as external to myself, because I am well off. But, just because you're not doing well, doesn't mean it's anyone else's fault.

      Intel 4004 wrote:

      I don't need your approval. I know whats right.

      Then why is this thread so long ?

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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        Oakman wrote:

        He's spent his whole life trying to get the gain without the pain. School dropout because they expected him to study; can't keep a job because they expect him to work; can't program because he want to be a senior dev before he's written any code worth keeping. Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.

        Oh bullshit. I have my Diploma, my line of work is tough and nobody sticks around for too long. Its just the way it is. I plan on going to college and going into my real career which is IT or computer programming. I've tried the low level entry jobs working on computers, but cooking is a hell of a lot better than that entry level computer crap and it pays the same. I can at least keep my sanity when I'm cooking unlike when I'm working on a computer with some jackass telling me the cookies are what make the computer work. :doh:

        Oakman wrote:

        Drops by here and starts lecturing about the Fed and fiat money based on, as you say, a half-hour, half-understanding someone else's half-baked ideas and thinks he's being an intellectual.

        I know exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe someday I will write a throughout report on the subject but I feel it will be a waste of time because after all that work I will get replies about tinfoil.

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        Intel 4004 wrote:

        . Maybe someday I will write a throughout report on the subject

        As opposed to a thorough one ?

        Intel 4004 wrote:

        I will get replies about tinfoil.

        If you make as little sense as these videos, I am sure you will.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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          That they just printed a ton of it, is wrong. But, whoever prints the money, someone has to. And printing money obviously devalues the money out there.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          And printing money obviously devalues the money out there.

          A lot of cash is also removed from circulation and destroyed when it becomes physically damaged.

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            Intel 4004 wrote:

            You are a pacifist

            My views on this fall somewhere between extreme left and right wing views. On what basis do you claim to know them ?

            Intel 4004 wrote:

            You don't care

            It is true that I have a lot more money than you, and a lot more security in my life, so I see any 'conspiracy' as external to myself, because I am well off. But, just because you're not doing well, doesn't mean it's anyone else's fault.

            Intel 4004 wrote:

            I don't need your approval. I know whats right.

            Then why is this thread so long ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            It is true that I have a lot more money than you, and a lot more security in my life

            So as long as you have money in the bank its OK for whatever organization or government to do as they please? With high amounts of inflation coming our way that money in the bank will only buy half of what it could have bought.

            http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              And printing money obviously devalues the money out there.

              A lot of cash is also removed from circulation and destroyed when it becomes physically damaged.

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              http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/03/19/business/econwatch/entry4877724.shtml[^]

              http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                And printing money obviously devalues the money out there.

                A lot of cash is also removed from circulation and destroyed when it becomes physically damaged.

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                AFAIK, they are printing money like crazy right now to pay for the bailout.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  It is true that I have a lot more money than you, and a lot more security in my life

                  So as long as you have money in the bank its OK for whatever organization or government to do as they please? With high amounts of inflation coming our way that money in the bank will only buy half of what it could have bought.

                  http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

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                  No, but so long as I own my home, can buy anything I like and know I will never be hungry, I am less likely to feel discontent and look for other people to blame for my own helplessness. Because I am one of those pacifists, I actually care about how society cares for people less well off than me, with the corollary that I expect people to be willing to work to improve their situation, if they want a hand up. So, I am not disinterested in the plight of others. I just meant that I am happy with my lot, and therefore not disposed to believe crackpot theories that let me blame others for my circumstance.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                    No, but so long as I own my home, can buy anything I like and know I will never be hungry, I am less likely to feel discontent and look for other people to blame for my own helplessness. Because I am one of those pacifists, I actually care about how society cares for people less well off than me, with the corollary that I expect people to be willing to work to improve their situation, if they want a hand up. So, I am not disinterested in the plight of others. I just meant that I am happy with my lot, and therefore not disposed to believe crackpot theories that let me blame others for my circumstance.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I am less likely to feel discontent and look for other people to blame for my own helplessness.

                    Again, I'm not looking to blame my problems on other people.

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I actually care about how society cares for people less well off than me, with the corollary that I expect people to be willing to work to improve their situation

                    So you end up voting for more welfare which makes things worse. See you don't look into the details. You have to pay close attention to politics because they have an agenda that they don't want to tell you about and they are certainly paying close attention to you (as in all people).

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I am less likely to feel discontent and look for other people to blame for my own helplessness.

                      Again, I'm not looking to blame my problems on other people.

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I actually care about how society cares for people less well off than me, with the corollary that I expect people to be willing to work to improve their situation

                      So you end up voting for more welfare which makes things worse. See you don't look into the details. You have to pay close attention to politics because they have an agenda that they don't want to tell you about and they are certainly paying close attention to you (as in all people).

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                      Intel 4004 wrote:

                      So you end up voting for more welfare which makes things worse.

                      No, on aggregate, I believe we have too much welfare and would vote for less. I do think we need reforms when it comes to the conditions of unskilled workers such as yourself, however. See how you assume stuff about me and get it wrong ?

                      Intel 4004 wrote:

                      You have to pay close attention to politics because they have an agenda that they don't want to tell you about and they are certainly paying close attention to you (as in all people).

                      This again shows that you're predisposed to believe they are all out to get you. Do they have an agenda ? Of course they do, but I doubt it's anywhere near as sinister as you seem to imply.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                        So you end up voting for more welfare which makes things worse.

                        No, on aggregate, I believe we have too much welfare and would vote for less. I do think we need reforms when it comes to the conditions of unskilled workers such as yourself, however. See how you assume stuff about me and get it wrong ?

                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                        You have to pay close attention to politics because they have an agenda that they don't want to tell you about and they are certainly paying close attention to you (as in all people).

                        This again shows that you're predisposed to believe they are all out to get you. Do they have an agenda ? Of course they do, but I doubt it's anywhere near as sinister as you seem to imply.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        See how you assume stuff about me and get it wrong ?

                        Thats what you do on every reply to me. See we are just alike.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          See how you assume stuff about me and get it wrong ?

                          Thats what you do on every reply to me. See we are just alike.

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                          ROPFL !!! well, that may be true, you've posted roughly the same thing here for so long that I have some pretty strong preconceived ideas about you.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

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                          • O Oakman

                            Chris Austin wrote: a bunch of frigging merchandise. online XXX toys, you mean?

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            online XXX toys, you mean?

                            HAHA! No, not that I saw. But there were conspiracy videos and documentaries for sale.

                            Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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