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Er, yeah, paper is nice. I always use a pad of paper in leu of a mouse pad. Since i don't have a laptop, i bring paper copies of previous meeting notes with me to meetings. But i don't compulsivly print everything that crosses my field of view. For that matter, i used to print code out regularly. It's nice, i can make notes in the margin, doodle as i think about a routine, etc. But these days, a single source file can be a ream or more of paper, so it's no longer really practical.
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Shog9 wrote: For that matter, i used to print code out regularly. It's nice, i can make notes in the margin, doodle as i think about a routine, etc. But these days, a single source file can be a ream or more of paper, so it's no longer really practical. Besides, that's what the Task List in VS.NET is for. ;-P Just set up your comments with a special beginning and then you can have them appear in the task list...all taken directly from your code.:-D [Edit]Hey, that extra link at the bottom toolbar is cool! Had me going there, I thought Chris had been doing some upgrades, but then I saw that nobody else had it, so I looked at the HTML. Very cool man, very cool. :-D[/Edit] David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9
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paulb wrote: There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Well call me print crazy then to :) If you sponsor me a tablet PC with two bluetooth connection cards then I will stop printing ok? Paper is great. Paper rocks. Paper is flexible, does not crash, can be drawn on, can be torn up and can be given to people without computers. The batteries do not run out and I can read paper in bright sunlight, on the train or stick it on the wall. But most of all you can have a piece of paper next to your keyboard with a list of bugs and have your code up on the screen. Another monitor won't help because I like to tick off the bugs I have done, annotate the ones that aren't bugs and generally write on the bug report. So a tablet PC would be nice, but they are a bit pricey, no? :) Paper will not die for a long, long time. Not even the flexible screens coming out now will replace it for many years. And when it comes to books... Paper smells nice. It feels nice. It is comfortable and familiar. In short, paper rocks *paul prints this post*
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Cape Town, South AfricaPaul Watson wrote: *paul prints this post* I'm tempted to do the same :) -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
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Shog9 wrote: For that matter, i used to print code out regularly. It's nice, i can make notes in the margin, doodle as i think about a routine, etc. But these days, a single source file can be a ream or more of paper, so it's no longer really practical. Besides, that's what the Task List in VS.NET is for. ;-P Just set up your comments with a special beginning and then you can have them appear in the task list...all taken directly from your code.:-D [Edit]Hey, that extra link at the bottom toolbar is cool! Had me going there, I thought Chris had been doing some upgrades, but then I saw that nobody else had it, so I looked at the HTML. Very cool man, very cool. :-D[/Edit] David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9
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There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Whatever happened to that dream of a paperless office? or do some people just dont like trees?
paulb wrote: There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Many programmers here print bunchs of COBOL code, to check for errors. Don´t know why they don´t read off the monitor. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
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There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Whatever happened to that dream of a paperless office? or do some people just dont like trees?
I love paper - some of my best designs were conceived on cocktail napkins. But the office I'm working in now drives me nuts. As an example, next week is a Directors' Meeting. They typed the agenda, then made 14 copies. Next they printed each Director's name on one copy and manually faxed a personalized copy to each one. For the meeting itself they make yet another 14 copies (the first set had writing on them and can't be used again) to attach to the information packets for the Directors which will be hand delivered over the next few days, and another set to be handed out at the meeting! Mind you, the computer on which the original was drafted includes Word, Outlook, an Internet connection, and a perfectly functional fax/modem. All the Directors have email, faxes, or both. But it has never occured to the staff to do it any other way!!!
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Paper is wonderful, I can read in on the bus without fear that somebody'll try and mug me for my computer. I can take it anywhere and not have to worry about the batteries running out. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: Paper is wonderful, I can read in on the bus without fear that somebody'll try and mug me for my computer. I can take it anywhere and not have to worry about the batteries running out. Tree murderer! ;P
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There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Whatever happened to that dream of a paperless office? or do some people just dont like trees?
paulb wrote: or do some people just dont like trees? I personally prefer reading technical documents on paper... a lot more portable then my PC.. but everything else I'd read on screen... rarely I'd print out an email... Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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paulb wrote: Can't these people read off the monitor? I haven't had a printer properly attached for almost 2 yrs now and hardly miss it. I have no trouble reading books/ manuals or anything off my monitor, and can't understand either why people need printouts ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
Colin^Davies wrote: can't understand either why people need printouts ? Lot more portable. I like to read documents on the bus, before I go to bed, in my sitting room, when I have a free class in college [and don't have access to a PC].. stuff like that. I'll read from the screen as much as possible... save the enviornment and all that but sometimes a printout is a lot better for me. Regards, Brian Dela :-)
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paulb wrote: There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Many programmers here print bunchs of COBOL code, to check for errors. Don´t know why they don´t read off the monitor. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
Mauricio Ritter wrote: Many programmers here print bunchs of COBOL code, It's all to do with the periods, Cobol programmers understand why women hate periods. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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Mauricio Ritter wrote: Many programmers here print bunchs of COBOL code, It's all to do with the periods, Cobol programmers understand why women hate periods. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
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I love paper - some of my best designs were conceived on cocktail napkins. But the office I'm working in now drives me nuts. As an example, next week is a Directors' Meeting. They typed the agenda, then made 14 copies. Next they printed each Director's name on one copy and manually faxed a personalized copy to each one. For the meeting itself they make yet another 14 copies (the first set had writing on them and can't be used again) to attach to the information packets for the Directors which will be hand delivered over the next few days, and another set to be handed out at the meeting! Mind you, the computer on which the original was drafted includes Word, Outlook, an Internet connection, and a perfectly functional fax/modem. All the Directors have email, faxes, or both. But it has never occured to the staff to do it any other way!!!
Picture this for employment creation & a forestry disaster - in South Africa we have 11 'official' languages (and about 10 more 'unofficial' languages). Everything discussed in parliament gets translated and typed into all 11! :rolleyes: The following statement about your geekness is true. The previous statement about your geekness is not true. GCS/IT/P d- s: a- C++++$ UL+>++++ P+ L++$ E- W+++$ N !o K+ w++$ O---- M-- PS- PE Y+ PGP--- t !5 X- tv b+++ DI++ D+ G++ e++ h--- r+++
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paulb wrote: There are people where I work who print EVERYTHING... not just Word documents, even a one line email gets printed. Can't these people read off the monitor? Many programmers here print bunchs of COBOL code, to check for errors. Don´t know why they don´t read off the monitor. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
Speaking of COBOL... I can remember the days of desk checking COBOL code from listings. We'd spend hours drooling over hundreds of printouts, just to make a handful of changes. Then submit the changes and schedule a test. And the next day, we would be back at it again, with all new listings and trying to figure out what went wrong. :-D The boxes of paper we went through, just to add a new tax percentage to a table somewhere. And this was way before the days of recycling anything. Chris