Rahm Emanuel on Citizenship

Captain See Sharp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ[^] He is saying that the government owns you, you have to serve the government.

http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

Oakman

Intel 4004 wrote: He is saying that the government owns you, you have to serve the government. Thanks for translating. Did you know he was Jewish? That explain a lot doesn't it? :~

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Captain See Sharp

Oakman wrote:

Did you know he was Jewish?

Yes.

Oakman wrote:

That explain a lot doesn't it?

I don't know. Does it?

http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

kmg365

Oakman wrote:

Did you know he was Jewish?

When If Israel goes after Iran I would love to listen in on the conversation between Emanuel and Obama. My suspicion though is he's a socialist first, before anything else.

Lost User

Given you're obviously so outraged about the actions of your current government do you plan to do anything about it? Are you a man of action?

Captain See Sharp

Josh Gray wrote:

Given you're obviously so outraged about the actions of your current government do you plan to do anything about it? Are you a man of action?

I vote and speak my mind. What do you suggest?

http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

Lost User

Intel 4004 wrote:

I vote and speak my mind. What do you suggest?

Attend or organise rallies, petition your representatives, knock on doors, create a party perhaps? I'm not terribly familiar with your political system but I would imagine there are any number of ways you could get involved that would have far more impact and be more rewarding than crapping on here by posting youtube videos. I think you're full of hot air and bullshit and you just want someone to blame for your own problems.

Captain See Sharp

Josh Gray wrote:

I think you're full of hot air and bullsh*t and you just want someone to blame for your own problems.

Thats just bullshit. Even if I was a millionaire I'd still post here and would still be concerned about politics.

http://thehopelessblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-build-desktop-computer-part-one.html[^]

Lost User

Intel 4004 wrote:

Thats just bullsh*t. Even if I was a millionaire I'd still post here and would still be concerned about politics.

So what are you going to do about it?

Captain See Sharp

Josh Gray wrote:

So what are you going to do about it?

Learn as much as I can. Everybody should learn about politics and politician's plans, strategies, and agenda (public and private). what they do effects everybody. Here is a big nugget of information. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103694193[^] NPR.org, April 30, 2009 · NPR has learned that Supreme Court Justice David Souter is planning to retire at the end of the current court term. The vacancy will give President Obama his first chance to name a member of the high court and begin to shape its future direction. What do you think about that?

Lost User

Intel 4004 wrote:

Learn as much as I can. Everybody should learn about politics and politician's plans, strategies, and agenda (public and private). what they do effects everybody.

But what effect will that have? Know that a ship is sinking wont keep it afloat

Captain See Sharp

You know what effect it will have. Why do you have to ask me? Knowledge is power.

Lost User

Intel 4004 wrote:

You know what effect it will have. Why do you have to ask me?

Good point!

Chris Austin

Intel 4004 wrote:

The vacancy will give President Obama his first chance to name a member of the high court and begin to shape its future direction.

You do realize this happens during other presidencies as well right? This is not something that you should find amazing, shocking or even unusual.

Intel 4004 wrote:

Everybody should learn about politics and politician's plans, strategies, and agenda (public and private). what they do effects everybody.

I agree and good for you if you can study political science objectively. I recommend that you hit the library and study a little bit. Here is my recommended reading list. Plato's commentary on the "Five Regimes". This is pretty light reading but very obvious and should provide some jumping off points as well some of the variations on the theme that you are going on about. Jean Baudrillard and "The Precession of Simulacra". This is the deep end of the pool and is more of a critique and analysis of modern culture. I don't care for most of his other work but I'll give credit where credit is due and say that I think he is on to something here. And then, when you want to deal with some truly cynical stuff, take a look at Nietzsche's "Beyond Good and Evil". Again, this is the deep end of the pool. If Baudrillard and Nietzsche are a bit difficult to follow, warm up with Descartes. Don't just read the summaries on wikipedia. Spend some time with the books and form your own views. Happy Reading and enjoy the contradictions these works supply.

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

Christian Graus

Chris Austin wrote:

Spend some time with the books and form your own view

Wait, there's no links to youtube ?

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

Chris Austin

Christian Graus wrote:

Wait, there's no links to youtube ?

mmmmmm......youtube + plato. Would that be a sequel to Bill&Teds?

Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

Christian Graus

Chris Austin wrote:

Would that be a sequel to Bill&Teds?

See, NOW you're getting closer to something he is likely to look at....

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )

John Carson

Intel 4004 wrote:

NPR.org, April 30, 2009 · NPR has learned that Supreme Court Justice David Souter is planning to retire at the end of the current court term. The vacancy will give President Obama his first chance to name a member of the high court and begin to shape its future direction. What do you think about that?

Souter is part of the liberal wing and Obama will nominate someone liberal to replace him. No change.

John Carson

Captain See Sharp

John Carson wrote:

Souter is part of the liberal wing and Obama will nominate someone liberal to replace him. No change.

The next one is O's appointee though. Its all for hope and change we can all believe in.

Christian Graus

Intel 4004 wrote:

Its all for hope and change we can all believe in.

Lucky for him, you'll believe anything. He just needs to put it in a grainy youtube video.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )