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  • G Gary Kirkham

    I am all for protecting the earth as well. I can do without the preachy political undertones that some movies posess. For example, Star Trek IV was an enjoyable movie, but I think it could have even better without the "Save the Whales" theme.

    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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    73Zeppelin
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    Gary Kirkham wrote:

    I think it could have even better without the "Save the Whales" theme.

    I know what you mean. For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

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      Gary Kirkham wrote:

      I think it could have even better without the "Save the Whales" theme.

      I know what you mean. For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

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      Gary Kirkham
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      73Zeppelin wrote:

      For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

      So it's an inconvenient truth?

      Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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        73Zeppelin wrote:

        For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

        So it's an inconvenient truth?

        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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        Oakman
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        For me that the fact the female lead blew Kirk off and went off to have adventures with other guys redeemed the whole movie.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          Gary Kirkham wrote:

          I think it could have even better without the "Save the Whales" theme.

          I know what you mean. For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

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          Lost User
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          Somewhat OT, but your post reminded me of my favourite bastardization of science fiction: Morgan Freeman's narration at the end of the War of the Worlds remake (starring little Tommy Cruise) that goes something like, "the Martians died not because of us but thanks to the bacteria and viruses that God in his wisdom placed upon the earth" which no doubt will precipitate the zombie apocalypse when H.G. Wells rises again to have his vengeance. Yes, let's give thanks to God for septicemia and bacterial meningitis. And just what would we do without tuberculosis or cholera?

          - F

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            73Zeppelin wrote:

            For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

            So it's an inconvenient truth?

            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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            73Zeppelin
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            It's neither inconvenient, nor true. It's unnecessary.

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              Somewhat OT, but your post reminded me of my favourite bastardization of science fiction: Morgan Freeman's narration at the end of the War of the Worlds remake (starring little Tommy Cruise) that goes something like, "the Martians died not because of us but thanks to the bacteria and viruses that God in his wisdom placed upon the earth" which no doubt will precipitate the zombie apocalypse when H.G. Wells rises again to have his vengeance. Yes, let's give thanks to God for septicemia and bacterial meningitis. And just what would we do without tuberculosis or cholera?

              - F

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              73Zeppelin
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              Fisticuffs wrote:

              . And just what would we do without tuberculosis or cholera?

              Be even more fruitful and multiplicative?

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              • G Gary Kirkham

                73Zeppelin wrote:

                For me, it's not the whales but rather life would be better without that whole "save the souls" theme.

                So it's an inconvenient truth?

                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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                :laugh: lol at both of you.

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                • K kmg365

                  I remember verbal battles in the living room between mom and pop whether we would watch The Honeymooners or Star Trek. I guess they were in the same time slot at the time.

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                  kmg365 wrote:

                  The Honeymooners

                  Interesting that for all the fame of The Honeymooners[^] it only ran for 39 episodes in 55-56. Ah, I see they brought them back as part of The Jackie Gleason Show[^] in 66-70.

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                    Somewhat OT, but your post reminded me of my favourite bastardization of science fiction: Morgan Freeman's narration at the end of the War of the Worlds remake (starring little Tommy Cruise) that goes something like, "the Martians died not because of us but thanks to the bacteria and viruses that God in his wisdom placed upon the earth" which no doubt will precipitate the zombie apocalypse when H.G. Wells rises again to have his vengeance. Yes, let's give thanks to God for septicemia and bacterial meningitis. And just what would we do without tuberculosis or cholera?

                    - F

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                    Oakman
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                    Well, forgive 'em that line because it was written by H.G. Wells and was in the brilliant George Pal movie, the superb Mercury Theatre of the Air version written by Orson Wells, and, of course, the book written in 1898. "In another moment I had scrambled up the earthen ram- part and stood upon its crest, and the interior of the redoubt was below me. A mighty space it was, with gigantic machines here and there within it, huge mounds of material and strange shelter places. And scattered about it, some in their over- turned war-machines, some in the now rigid handling- machines, and a dozen of them stark and silent and laid in a row, were the Martians--DEAD!--slain by the putrefactive and disease bacteria against which their systems were unprepared; slain as the red weed was being slain; slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth."

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      Well, forgive 'em that line because it was written by H.G. Wells and was in the brilliant George Pal movie, the superb Mercury Theatre of the Air version written by Orson Wells, and, of course, the book written in 1898. "In another moment I had scrambled up the earthen ram- part and stood upon its crest, and the interior of the redoubt was below me. A mighty space it was, with gigantic machines here and there within it, huge mounds of material and strange shelter places. And scattered about it, some in their over- turned war-machines, some in the now rigid handling- machines, and a dozen of them stark and silent and laid in a row, were the Martians--DEAD!--slain by the putrefactive and disease bacteria against which their systems were unprepared; slain as the red weed was being slain; slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth."

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      Lost User
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                      Ahhhh, so it is. Clearly a case of selective perception on my part, remembering this passage more clearly than that one: For so it had come about, as indeed I and many men might have foreseen had not terror and disaster blinded our minds. These germs of disease have taken toll of humanity since the beginning of things--taken toll of our prehuman ancestors since life began here. But by virtue of this natural selection of our kind we have developed resisting power; to no germs do we succumb without a struggle, and to many--those that cause putrefaction in dead matter, for instance--our living frames are altogether immune. But there are no bacteria in Mars, and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain. Thanks for the correction!

                      - F

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                      • 7 73Zeppelin

                        It's neither inconvenient, nor true. It's unnecessary.

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                        Gary Kirkham
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                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                        It's unnecessary

                        As unnecessary as turning a thread about sci-fi movies into something completely unrelated?

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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          It's unnecessary

                          As unnecessary as turning a thread about sci-fi movies into something completely unrelated?

                          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

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                          Gary Kirkham wrote:

                          As unnecessary as turning a thread about sci-fi movies into something completely unrelated?

                          Let's see. You posted you didn't like one theme in sci-fi movies and Zep posted he didn't like another theme.

                          "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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