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  • C Captain See Sharp

    Ordered by Congress to "buy American" when spending money from the $787 billion stimulus package, the town of Peru, Ind., stunned its Canadian supplier by rejecting sewage pumps made outside of Toronto. After a Navy official spotted Canadian pipe fittings in a construction project at Camp Pendleton, Calif., they were hauled out of the ground and replaced with American versions[^] I would love to see "free market globalism" trashed for good. Governments should have the authority to regulate what and how much goes through the borders with the objective of keeping the economy in its domain up with a diverse market.

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    That's it then, I'm moving to Peru! I'll learn Spanish but what the hell, there buying American. :)

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    • C Captain See Sharp

      Ordered by Congress to "buy American" when spending money from the $787 billion stimulus package, the town of Peru, Ind., stunned its Canadian supplier by rejecting sewage pumps made outside of Toronto. After a Navy official spotted Canadian pipe fittings in a construction project at Camp Pendleton, Calif., they were hauled out of the ground and replaced with American versions[^] I would love to see "free market globalism" trashed for good. Governments should have the authority to regulate what and how much goes through the borders with the objective of keeping the economy in its domain up with a diverse market.

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      Oakman
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      Intel 4004 wrote:

      Governments should have the authority to regulate what and how much goes through the borders with the objective of keeping the economy in its domain up with a diverse market.

      How much control over business are you in favor of the government having? Should they be able to set prices and wages? Determine which companies are allowed to sell stock and which aren't? Order contracts to be broken or signed? Decide where you should work and when? . . .hmm, maybe the last isn't such a bad idea in your case. :laugh:

      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        Intel 4004 wrote:

        Governments should have the authority to regulate what and how much goes through the borders with the objective of keeping the economy in its domain up with a diverse market.

        How much control over business are you in favor of the government having? Should they be able to set prices and wages? Determine which companies are allowed to sell stock and which aren't? Order contracts to be broken or signed? Decide where you should work and when? . . .hmm, maybe the last isn't such a bad idea in your case. :laugh:

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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        Oakman wrote:

        How much control over business are you in favor of the government having?

        None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

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        • C Captain See Sharp

          Oakman wrote:

          How much control over business are you in favor of the government having?

          None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

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          Intel 4004 wrote:

          so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

          Pissed because they make more than you do? You've been paid way more than you're worth.

          "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

          I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^]
          ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!

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          • C Captain See Sharp

            Oakman wrote:

            How much control over business are you in favor of the government having?

            None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

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            Oakman
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            Intel 4004 wrote:

            None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

            Not a bad answer - but why should we look upon Canada, which pays its people quite well and has often been at our side when our country needed a friend (Where do you think all those planes from overseas went when we closed our borders on 9/11/2001? Most of the people they took in and sheltered for days were Americans) the same way we might look at China or India?

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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              Intel 4004 wrote:

              None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

              Not a bad answer - but why should we look upon Canada, which pays its people quite well and has often been at our side when our country needed a friend (Where do you think all those planes from overseas went when we closed our borders on 9/11/2001? Most of the people they took in and sheltered for days were Americans) the same way we might look at China or India?

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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              Oakman wrote:

              the same way we might look at China or India?

              Yes, Canada is not the United States is it?

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                Oakman wrote:

                the same way we might look at China or India?

                Yes, Canada is not the United States is it?

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                Intel 4004 wrote:

                Yes, Canada is not the United States is it?

                Now with most folks that would be a rhetorical question - but you really aren't sure, are you?

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                • C Captain See Sharp

                  Oakman wrote:

                  How much control over business are you in favor of the government having?

                  None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

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                  Stan Shannon
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                  None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

                  Why? If the work is worth 2 bucks a day, why in god's name would you want to give someone more than that to do it for you? If you think people should have more of your money than their works is worth, why don't you just give it to them for doing nothing?

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Intel 4004 wrote:

                    None, but we need to control what comes in and out of the borders so jobs wont go to china workers making 2 bucks a day.

                    Why? If the work is worth 2 bucks a day, why in god's name would you want to give someone more than that to do it for you? If you think people should have more of your money than their works is worth, why don't you just give it to them for doing nothing?

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Why? If the work is worth 2 bucks a day

                    Its not, you know better.

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                      Intel 4004 wrote:

                      Yes, Canada is not the United States is it?

                      Now with most folks that would be a rhetorical question - but you really aren't sure, are you?

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                      Captain See Sharp
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                      Oakman wrote:

                      Now with most folks that would be a rhetorical question

                      Well with the rise of the North American Union along with its currency, the Amero, it wont be.

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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Why? If the work is worth 2 bucks a day

                        Its not, you know better.

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                        Intel 4004 wrote:

                        Its not, you know better.

                        What I know is that the more I have to pay someone else to do work for me, the less of my own money I get to keep.

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          Intel 4004 wrote:

                          Its not, you know better.

                          What I know is that the more I have to pay someone else to do work for me, the less of my own money I get to keep.

                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          What I know is that the more I have to pay someone else to do work for me, the less of my own money I get to keep.

                          You are not paying anyone to do work for you. You are buying chinese and mexican made goods from a corporation that takes advantage of semi-slave labor, and guess what..they keep the profits!

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                            Stan Shannon wrote:

                            What I know is that the more I have to pay someone else to do work for me, the less of my own money I get to keep.

                            You are not paying anyone to do work for you. You are buying chinese and mexican made goods from a corporation that takes advantage of semi-slave labor, and guess what..they keep the profits!

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                            Intel 4004 wrote:

                            You are buying chinese and mexican made goods from a corporation that takes advantage of semi-slave labor, and guess what..they keep the profits!

                            Yeah, so? Why don't you just start your own company making the same stuff and I'll buy it from you so you can keep the profit?

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Intel 4004 wrote:

                              You are buying chinese and mexican made goods from a corporation that takes advantage of semi-slave labor, and guess what..they keep the profits!

                              Yeah, so? Why don't you just start your own company making the same stuff and I'll buy it from you so you can keep the profit?

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Captain See Sharp
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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              Why don't you just start your own company making the same stuff and I'll buy it from you so you can keep the profit?

                              Do you want to give me a loan?

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                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                Why don't you just start your own company making the same stuff and I'll buy it from you so you can keep the profit?

                                Do you want to give me a loan?

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                                Intel 4004 wrote:

                                Do you want to give me a loan?

                                I don't know. Whats your business plan?

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Intel 4004 wrote:

                                  Do you want to give me a loan?

                                  I don't know. Whats your business plan?

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  Captain See Sharp
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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Whats your business plan?

                                  I have a plan for my own software company but it would be foolish to get in debt for it because it requires a lot of time and patience, and little resources to get started.

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Whats your business plan?

                                    I have a plan for my own software company but it would be foolish to get in debt for it because it requires a lot of time and patience, and little resources to get started.

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                                    Intel 4004 wrote:

                                    I have a plan for my own software company but it would be foolish to get in debt for it because it requires a lot of time and patience, and little resources to get started.

                                    One resource it requires is someone who can program. Where will you find someone like that?

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                                      Whats your business plan?

                                      I have a plan for my own software company but it would be foolish to get in debt for it because it requires a lot of time and patience, and little resources to get started.

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                                      Stan Shannon
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                                      Oh, well in that case than, no loan. Sorry.

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Oh, well in that case than, no loan. Sorry.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Captain See Sharp
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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        Oh, well in that case than, no loan. Sorry.

                                        I wouldn't take your money anyways.

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                                          Intel 4004 wrote:

                                          I have a plan for my own software company but it would be foolish to get in debt for it because it requires a lot of time and patience, and little resources to get started.

                                          One resource it requires is someone who can program. Where will you find someone like that?

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                                          Captain See Sharp
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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          Where will you find someone like that?

                                          I can program very well. I have weak points but I am strongest with algorithms. It feels really good to develop something that can go through a chunk of data and manipulate it or output some type of analysis. My weak point is UI.

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