So, after the current ecconomic crisis is past, what are the chances for a decade of (mega) inflation?
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I wast thinking the other day, this crisis isnt so much about lack of money, as about how fast that money is changing hands, and based on comments picked up on CNBC and Bloomberg, the money there is is not moving round the system like it used to. So in order to give some appearance of health, the various goverments have pumped taxpayers cash into the system, but also, and critically, introduced various forms of 'quantative easing' (AKA prionting cash, or binary digits, depending on ones view of just what money is these days). Even the ECB has either srtarted or nmooted this. So, give it a few years, and the syatem starts to flow, there is going to be too much cash in the system leading to inflation. Now, from what I have gleaned, inflation is a good way to write off debt, since the devaluaiton takes care of much of it. So perhaps this is a good way to take the heat out of house proces without changing their digit values, and reduce debt overall, taxpayers included. Question is, what to do about it? Any answers from the financially astute out there?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
we will just carry on in the boom bust cycle. They thought it was broken well looks like it time to try again!
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I wast thinking the other day, this crisis isnt so much about lack of money, as about how fast that money is changing hands, and based on comments picked up on CNBC and Bloomberg, the money there is is not moving round the system like it used to. So in order to give some appearance of health, the various goverments have pumped taxpayers cash into the system, but also, and critically, introduced various forms of 'quantative easing' (AKA prionting cash, or binary digits, depending on ones view of just what money is these days). Even the ECB has either srtarted or nmooted this. So, give it a few years, and the syatem starts to flow, there is going to be too much cash in the system leading to inflation. Now, from what I have gleaned, inflation is a good way to write off debt, since the devaluaiton takes care of much of it. So perhaps this is a good way to take the heat out of house proces without changing their digit values, and reduce debt overall, taxpayers included. Question is, what to do about it? Any answers from the financially astute out there?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
To answer the header - somewhere between 99% and 101%.
fat_boy wrote:
So perhaps this is a good way to take the heat out of house proces without changing their digit values
It's a good way to get out of owing China half of the United States' GNP.
fat_boy wrote:
and reduce debt overall, taxpayers included.
Problem is, progressive income tax takes a larger bite out of an inflated paycheck.
fat_boy wrote:
Any answers from the financially astute out there?
Gold if you think civilization is going to survive without another dark ages; gold and lead if you don't.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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To answer the header - somewhere between 99% and 101%.
fat_boy wrote:
So perhaps this is a good way to take the heat out of house proces without changing their digit values
It's a good way to get out of owing China half of the United States' GNP.
fat_boy wrote:
and reduce debt overall, taxpayers included.
Problem is, progressive income tax takes a larger bite out of an inflated paycheck.
fat_boy wrote:
Any answers from the financially astute out there?
Gold if you think civilization is going to survive without another dark ages; gold and lead if you don't.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Intel 4004 wrote:
You better stock up man.
Tell you what, you stock up. Then after armageddon, put the word out that you have drugs for sale. . .
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Intel 4004 wrote:
You better stock up man.
Tell you what, you stock up. Then after armageddon, put the word out that you have drugs for sale. . .
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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we will just carry on in the boom bust cycle. They thought it was broken well looks like it time to try again!
hopingToCode wrote:
we will just carry on in the boom bust cycle.
Boom and bust cycles are a good thing, not a bad thing.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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hopingToCode wrote:
we will just carry on in the boom bust cycle.
Boom and bust cycles are a good thing, not a bad thing.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan, you as a former sailor in the US Navy, must appreciate the benefit of a calm sea. There is very little benefit in a heavy sea. For example, it can make you unwell, it can harm you because of its violent nature. Boom and bust economic cycles can be thought of as the equivalent of the peaks and troughs of heavy seas. Much better to have a steady hand at the wheel in a calm "economic" sea. This story from August 2005 you may find interesting[^]
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Stan, you as a former sailor in the US Navy, must appreciate the benefit of a calm sea. There is very little benefit in a heavy sea. For example, it can make you unwell, it can harm you because of its violent nature. Boom and bust economic cycles can be thought of as the equivalent of the peaks and troughs of heavy seas. Much better to have a steady hand at the wheel in a calm "economic" sea. This story from August 2005 you may find interesting[^]
Nope. A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas. Never going anywhere. Waiting for the end to ever so slowly arrive.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Nope. A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas. Never going anywhere. Waiting for the end to ever so slowly arrive.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas
So what is so wrong with economics doing the same or similar kind of thing. Boom and bust harms just like heavy seas do, and both are avoidable. Better to arrive safe and sound rather than battered and half dead.
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Nope. A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas. Never going anywhere. Waiting for the end to ever so slowly arrive.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas
Whereas you would take the ship into the heaviest seas possible, using no radar, weather ballons, or even an old-fashioned lookout in order to insure every possibility of encountering hurricanes, typhoons, and tsunamis as often as possible?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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hopingToCode wrote:
we will just carry on in the boom bust cycle.
Boom and bust cycles are a good thing, not a bad thing.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Boom and bust cycles are a good thing, not a bad thing.
Boom and bust cycles are a symptom of manipulation of the supply of money and excessive risk taking. Boom and bust is a way for a small handful of people to buy up properties for pennies on the dollar. A steady economy offers not only security and confidence.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Boom and bust cycles are a good thing, not a bad thing.
Boom and bust cycles are a symptom of manipulation of the supply of money and excessive risk taking. Boom and bust is a way for a small handful of people to buy up properties for pennies on the dollar. A steady economy offers not only security and confidence.
Intel 4004 wrote:
A steady economy offers not only security and confidence.
Were you absent the month your teacher covered sentence fragments?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Boom and bust cycles are a good thing, not a bad thing.
Boom and bust cycles are a symptom of manipulation of the supply of money and excessive risk taking. Boom and bust is a way for a small handful of people to buy up properties for pennies on the dollar. A steady economy offers not only security and confidence.
Intel 4004 wrote:
A steady economy offers not only security and confidence.
There is no such thing as a steady state in economics or much of anything else. It will never be achieved. If something isn't growing, its declining. Boom and bust is simply the price we pay for economic growth.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas
So what is so wrong with economics doing the same or similar kind of thing. Boom and bust harms just like heavy seas do, and both are avoidable. Better to arrive safe and sound rather than battered and half dead.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Boom and bust harms just like heavy seas do, and both are avoidable.
But heavy seas are precisely where you need to go to move forward.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
A better comparison would be purposefully avoiding heavy seas by staying becalmed in quiet seas
Whereas you would take the ship into the heaviest seas possible, using no radar, weather ballons, or even an old-fashioned lookout in order to insure every possibility of encountering hurricanes, typhoons, and tsunamis as often as possible?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Whereas you would take the ship into the heaviest seas possible, using no radar, weather ballons, or even an old-fashioned lookout in order to insure every possibility of encountering hurricanes, typhoons, and tsunamis as often as possible?
Human civilization was a gamble from the very beginning. No time now to stop tossing the dice.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Intel 4004 wrote:
A steady economy offers not only security and confidence.
There is no such thing as a steady state in economics or much of anything else. It will never be achieved. If something isn't growing, its declining. Boom and bust is simply the price we pay for economic growth.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Foolhardy policies causing rampant growth at the expense of good economic sense. Where individuals should be encouraged to treasure their monies and not to spend (squander) unsustainable amounts on credit they, and consequently, the country (and the world), can ill afford. Such foolhardy policies might give the illusion that all is well, but it is an illusion. With better regulation, and enforcible regulation, growth is better managed, thus, there is a reduction in monetary related risks.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Boom and bust harms just like heavy seas do, and both are avoidable.
But heavy seas are precisely where you need to go to move forward.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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To answer the header - somewhere between 99% and 101%.
fat_boy wrote:
So perhaps this is a good way to take the heat out of house proces without changing their digit values
It's a good way to get out of owing China half of the United States' GNP.
fat_boy wrote:
and reduce debt overall, taxpayers included.
Problem is, progressive income tax takes a larger bite out of an inflated paycheck.
fat_boy wrote:
Any answers from the financially astute out there?
Gold if you think civilization is going to survive without another dark ages; gold and lead if you don't.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Straight to Davy Jones locker.
That is a risk that you have to compare to the certainty of dieing a long and lingering death in quiet seas.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Foolhardy policies causing rampant growth at the expense of good economic sense. Where individuals should be encouraged to treasure their monies and not to spend (squander) unsustainable amounts on credit they, and consequently, the country (and the world), can ill afford. Such foolhardy policies might give the illusion that all is well, but it is an illusion. With better regulation, and enforcible regulation, growth is better managed, thus, there is a reduction in monetary related risks.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
With better regulation, and enforcible regulation, growth is better managed, thus, there is a reduction in monetary related risks.
Nope. Growth cannot be managed or regulated. Only decline can. Growth is about risk taking. Always has been, always will be.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.