100 days; 100 projects; 1 trillion dollars. . .
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Had a run in with the law recently did we?
Not really, got a minor ticket some time ago. I didn't pay it, so they think they own my car now. Over a few months I avoided the tow man more than once, after the second time I decided to park it. They actually want to steal my car from me, and make me pay hundreds to get it back. THAT DOESN"T EVEN INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL LEGAL COSTS (ticket, court and what have you). All I want is to be able to go to the store and do my normal business around town. :sigh:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
All I want is to be able to go to the store and do my normal business around town.
Then you should've paid your ticket. I'm sure many rapists and murderers just want the authorities to bugger off so they can go about their normal business.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
All I want is to be able to go to the store and do my normal business around town.
Then you should've paid your ticket. I'm sure many rapists and murderers just want the authorities to bugger off so they can go about their normal business.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Then you should've paid your ticket.
It was too much for poor 'ol me to spare. I'm just a lowly short order cook chewing on a long seeded blade of grass.
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Had a run in with the law recently did we?
Not really, got a minor ticket some time ago. I didn't pay it, so they think they own my car now. Over a few months I avoided the tow man more than once, after the second time I decided to park it. They actually want to steal my car from me, and make me pay hundreds to get it back. THAT DOESN"T EVEN INCLUDE THE ORIGINAL LEGAL COSTS (ticket, court and what have you). All I want is to be able to go to the store and do my normal business around town. :sigh:
Realizing the fact that I commit traffic violations every time I go 5 miles over the speed limit, the occasional time I'm caught, I have no problem paying the fine. Its called being part of a community and honoring that community's decision to limit traffic behaviors, which has to induce a deterrant of a fine to inspire those who disagree to obey with the community that that individual is part of. Why didn't you just pay the fine instead of assuming that you have no obligation to do so? Since it is a traffic violation, the only recourse the munincipality has is to impound your vehicle for collateral, which incurs cost that has to be reclaimed. Since you're causing extra overhead by not paying your fine, they need to get that back somehow, hence the increased fines. Too bad you're seemingly only using your braincells for conspiracy thinking.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Then you should've paid your ticket.
It was too much for poor 'ol me to spare. I'm just a lowly short order cook chewing on a long seeded blade of grass.
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Realizing the fact that I commit traffic violations every time I go 5 miles over the speed limit, the occasional time I'm caught, I have no problem paying the fine. Its called being part of a community and honoring that community's decision to limit traffic behaviors, which has to induce a deterrant of a fine to inspire those who disagree to obey with the community that that individual is part of. Why didn't you just pay the fine instead of assuming that you have no obligation to do so? Since it is a traffic violation, the only recourse the munincipality has is to impound your vehicle for collateral, which incurs cost that has to be reclaimed. Since you're causing extra overhead by not paying your fine, they need to get that back somehow, hence the increased fines. Too bad you're seemingly only using your braincells for conspiracy thinking.
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Synaptrik wrote:
Its called being part of a community and honoring that community's decision to limit traffic behaviors, which has to induce a deterrant of a fine to inspire those who disagree to obey with the community that that individual is part of.
Don't give me that bullshit. I'm not part of some fucking money hungry collective. Go fuck a borg drone.
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Synaptrik wrote:
Its called being part of a community and honoring that community's decision to limit traffic behaviors, which has to induce a deterrant of a fine to inspire those who disagree to obey with the community that that individual is part of.
Don't give me that bullshit. I'm not part of some fucking money hungry collective. Go fuck a borg drone.
You are a member of a nation of laws which you seem to feel is your right to ignore. Good luck. Too bad you can't communicate, but only bleat like a bad genetic experiment between a banshee and a sheep. But do carry on blasting them right wing buzzwords minus the comprehension. Truly this has provided some of the best enter_taint_ment I've had between compiles.
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You are a member of a nation of laws which you seem to feel is your right to ignore. Good luck. Too bad you can't communicate, but only bleat like a bad genetic experiment between a banshee and a sheep. But do carry on blasting them right wing buzzwords minus the comprehension. Truly this has provided some of the best enter_taint_ment I've had between compiles.
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I am an individual who does whatever the fuck he wants, when he wants.
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You are a member of a nation of laws which you seem to feel is your right to ignore. Good luck. Too bad you can't communicate, but only bleat like a bad genetic experiment between a banshee and a sheep. But do carry on blasting them right wing buzzwords minus the comprehension. Truly this has provided some of the best enter_taint_ment I've had between compiles.
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Synaptrik wrote:
only bleat like a bad genetic experiment between a banshee and a sheep
:thumbsup: great phrase!
Synaptrik wrote:
Truly this has provided some of the best entertaintment I've had between compiles.
I am afraid he reminds me more of bleeding piles than compiles
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Obama has put Joe Biden in charge of celebrating the 100th day since the passing of the stimulus package. So, being tech-savvy, he wrote a report[^] or had one written for him. There have been problems with the report. Apparently a couple of Fox commentators had apoplexy when they heard that the Fairies in Maine were getting funds, but calmed down when they learned that it was boats not people. Maybe more to the point, some of the projects that Joe is so proud of are not exactly Knock-Your-Socks-Off in scope. Check out #83 which allows a window company to hire 3 more installers - a job traditionally reserved for illegals. Or #90, which is about training for teens so they can get part time and summer jobs - here's a clue: all of those jobs have been filled by adults eager to work at anything after having been unemployed for many months. Meanwhile, in Columbus, Ohio when back at the end of February, Obama made a special trip to congratulate the graduating class of the Police Academy who had been told they were going to be let go as soon as they graduated because of the budget crunch, but who - our Prez said - would now have jobs thanks to a currency infusion from the stimulus package. . . Unfrakingfortunately, the budget crunch in Columbus, Ohio is even worse that predicted all the way back 100 days ago (predicted in Washington DC; it was predicted here in the Back Room, iirc) and not only are those new cops coing to be let go, a couple of hundred veterans are going to get pink slips as well. The City Council is begging the voters to accept a tax-hike, but failing a bunch of people who are afraid they may lose their jobs and homes tomorrow voting to take money out of their pockets and give it to the city - those cops are toast by September. Not surprisingly, that project is no where to be found in Biden's list of 100.
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Oakman wrote:
Fox commentators had apoplexy when they heard that the Fairies in Maine were getting funds, but calmed down when they learned that it was boats not people
Hahahaha :laugh:
Oakman wrote:
Check out #83 which allows a window company to hire 3 more installers - a job traditionally reserved for illegals.
I didn't realize that was one of the jobs reserved for illegals. Maybe that's part of the problem — only the people willing to do the work will get paid for it, so if citizens won't do it, then they're not going to get paid and illegals will cross the border to get the jobs. You might say that the jobs don't pay enough for a person to live off, and I'd agree. The problem there is business owners want to make as much money as possible, so they squeeze employment costs. The same reasoning is what sends manufacturing jobs off to China and Mexico. A bit of a tangential rant here: the US used to be big on manufacturing, but those jobs were shipped overseas. Business owners want profits so much they'll overlook the ethical grey areas of firing their local workers and contracting human-rights-abusing factories overseas. People who held those jobs needed to look for other sources of money. Money is a representation of work done or goods sold, but there's a tendency for people to try to earn money but avoid actually working. The banking industry collapsed because banks were selling each other largely imaginary financial constructs and the former workers didn't didn't have the money to make mortgage payments. The thing about banks is they don't actually produce goods or provide a service other than moving money around. The circulation of money is like the water cycle: you work, get paid, spend your salary on buying products your neighbor made, then your neighbor buys the products you made. When the neighbor's job moves to China, he's not buying your products anymore, so you don't get paid either.
Oakman wrote:
Or #90, which is about training for teens so they can get part time and summer jobs
To me, this one smells a bit like giving money away. Some of the other projects are for infrastructure and reducing costs or fees for business, both of which are a better use of money because they promote spending and create future returns.
Oakman wrote:
The City Council is begging the
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Oakman wrote:
Fox commentators had apoplexy when they heard that the Fairies in Maine were getting funds, but calmed down when they learned that it was boats not people
Hahahaha :laugh:
Oakman wrote:
Check out #83 which allows a window company to hire 3 more installers - a job traditionally reserved for illegals.
I didn't realize that was one of the jobs reserved for illegals. Maybe that's part of the problem — only the people willing to do the work will get paid for it, so if citizens won't do it, then they're not going to get paid and illegals will cross the border to get the jobs. You might say that the jobs don't pay enough for a person to live off, and I'd agree. The problem there is business owners want to make as much money as possible, so they squeeze employment costs. The same reasoning is what sends manufacturing jobs off to China and Mexico. A bit of a tangential rant here: the US used to be big on manufacturing, but those jobs were shipped overseas. Business owners want profits so much they'll overlook the ethical grey areas of firing their local workers and contracting human-rights-abusing factories overseas. People who held those jobs needed to look for other sources of money. Money is a representation of work done or goods sold, but there's a tendency for people to try to earn money but avoid actually working. The banking industry collapsed because banks were selling each other largely imaginary financial constructs and the former workers didn't didn't have the money to make mortgage payments. The thing about banks is they don't actually produce goods or provide a service other than moving money around. The circulation of money is like the water cycle: you work, get paid, spend your salary on buying products your neighbor made, then your neighbor buys the products you made. When the neighbor's job moves to China, he's not buying your products anymore, so you don't get paid either.
Oakman wrote:
Or #90, which is about training for teens so they can get part time and summer jobs
To me, this one smells a bit like giving money away. Some of the other projects are for infrastructure and reducing costs or fees for business, both of which are a better use of money because they promote spending and create future returns.
Oakman wrote:
The City Council is begging the
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
I didn't realize that was one of the jobs reserved for illegals.
Any job where the foreman speaks only spanish is reserved for illegals.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
provide a service other than moving money around
In any society that has progressed beyond barter, banks are necessary. And the service of determining where capital should be used is extremely important to the functioning of capitalism. In socialistic countries this service is provided by the government - often with results that make capitalism look good.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
If money taken in from taxes goes down, govt can either raise tax rates or trim costs — usually by firing people. Both options are unpopular
You forget borrowing - the service that banks provide. Unfortunately because of the greed of a few men, and the interference in banking by Washington in the previous 20 years, the banks are very leery of loaning money these days.
Daniel Ferguson wrote:
It's a list of 100 projects from across the country, so is it really surprising some projects are not on the list?
My anecdote stands as an example of the kind of failure the PR successes of the list are designed to gloss over. I would have been delighted to hear that the complete list of how our money is being spent is now on line, but -- in spite of repeated promises that it would be -- we are now told that it will be 2011 before such a site is fully operational and, when it is - much of the meny will be detailed merely as having been given to the states for reimbursement.
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