Obama supporters have nothing to say when asked to list his accomplishments.
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Because its the truth.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Because its the truth.
Yes, but the point is really mute. I doesn't really matter what he did or didn't do before he became president. He is in office now and it is what he does or doesn't do now that matters. Given his liberal bent, I can only hope that he continues to do nothing, but unfortunately that's just not the liberal way.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Because its the truth.
Yes, but the point is really mute. I doesn't really matter what he did or didn't do before he became president. He is in office now and it is what he does or doesn't do now that matters. Given his liberal bent, I can only hope that he continues to do nothing, but unfortunately that's just not the liberal way.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
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Which is precisely why republicans are out of power, and deserve to be.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Christian Graus wrote:
and Bush would have done the same.
So in your view that makes it all OK right? "Bush would have done the same, so lets just ignore it all, lets just forget about it. Lets just let them do anything they want." - Christian Grauss Sounds like short-cirucited logic to me
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Which is precisely why republicans are out of power, and deserve to be.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
There's a core issue here. And that is, your sovereign country is a slave to the ongoing success of the free enterprise of people like GM and your big banks, etc. That's why a bailout is needed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.
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There's a core issue here. And that is, your sovereign country is a slave to the ongoing success of the free enterprise of people like GM and your big banks, etc. That's why a bailout is needed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.
Christian Graus wrote:
And that is, your sovereign country is a slave to the ongoing success of the free enterprise of people like GM and your big banks, etc. That's why a bailout is needed.
That is exactly why a bailout is NOT needed. We are just paying for our slavery.
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Christian Graus wrote:
And that is, your sovereign country is a slave to the ongoing success of the free enterprise of people like GM and your big banks, etc. That's why a bailout is needed.
That is exactly why a bailout is NOT needed. We are just paying for our slavery.
If Banks were to have been allowed to go belly-up and fail, then businesses would also fail because they need a cashflow lifeline called money and without the banks there is no money circulating (either physical cash or the electronic banking kind). And businesses would include retail grocery - that's supermarkets etc - (and all of their suppliers from raw materials providers (farms & factories) to packaging to transportation services). If retail groceries in the big cities, the towns and villages can't function they close their doors. So where are individual people going to get their groceries from, and without access to money how you going to pay for whatever groceries you manage to get your hands on. So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
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If Banks were to have been allowed to go belly-up and fail, then businesses would also fail because they need a cashflow lifeline called money and without the banks there is no money circulating (either physical cash or the electronic banking kind). And businesses would include retail grocery - that's supermarkets etc - (and all of their suppliers from raw materials providers (farms & factories) to packaging to transportation services). If retail groceries in the big cities, the towns and villages can't function they close their doors. So where are individual people going to get their groceries from, and without access to money how you going to pay for whatever groceries you manage to get your hands on. So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
Perhaps our economy needs to die because right now its a cancer eating away at us. A new honest money system needs to be implemented not based on debt or inflation, banks need new regulation (not the ability to be seized as what the new administration calls regulation), and globalization needs to be checked.
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If Banks were to have been allowed to go belly-up and fail, then businesses would also fail because they need a cashflow lifeline called money and without the banks there is no money circulating (either physical cash or the electronic banking kind). And businesses would include retail grocery - that's supermarkets etc - (and all of their suppliers from raw materials providers (farms & factories) to packaging to transportation services). If retail groceries in the big cities, the towns and villages can't function they close their doors. So where are individual people going to get their groceries from, and without access to money how you going to pay for whatever groceries you manage to get your hands on. So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
no, it doesn't die. it is destroyed then renewed. and how, pray tell, does that cause one to be less free? I defy you to offer an intelligent reply.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
Perhaps our economy needs to die because right now its a cancer eating away at us. A new honest money system needs to be implemented not based on debt or inflation, banks need new regulation (not the ability to be seized as what the new administration calls regulation), and globalization needs to be checked.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Perhaps our economy needs to die
I did not say that. I said "You and your free society dies". In case I have not made myself clear it means ... You and an unknown number will be residing in your grave either through starvation or the violence of open warfare as the population tries and fails to feed itself. Yes the banking system is in a mess and there is no where near enough regulation. Globalisation is another issue but that (outside of the global banks) is not my primary concern.
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There's a core issue here. And that is, your sovereign country is a slave to the ongoing success of the free enterprise of people like GM and your big banks, etc. That's why a bailout is needed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question.
Christian Graus wrote:
And that is, your sovereign country is a slave to the ongoing success of the free enterprise of people like GM and your big banks, etc. That's why a bailout is needed.
Thats blatant nonsense. Free enterprise is a fundamental characteristic of American society. But free enterprise includes the freedom to fail. The bailouts have absolutely no relationship with free enterprise in any way.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
So, without a bailout, YOU and the free society you so desire dies, and is likely to be a painful death.
no, it doesn't die. it is destroyed then renewed. and how, pray tell, does that cause one to be less free? I defy you to offer an intelligent reply.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
A free society will not be free for long if you have armed gangs patrolling the streets of large cities, towns and even villages hunting for the dregs of whatever foodstuffs etc remain. It will be a bloodbath. The only freedom that people might crave could be the solitude of the grave, as there is likely to be very little happiness or freedom above ground. If money cannot flow then neither can goods. And grocery items (for example) are goods that if they don't or cannot be moved they perish quickly.