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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    I was just listening to PMQs on the BBC - quite dull. However, immediately afterward a Labour goon called Paddy Tipping introduced the Maximum Wage Bill to the house. To my utter dismay it passed the first reading and will return for a second reading later in the year (most of the MPs had left the chmaber - why?). I realise it may not get much past that but what an idea. Are these peopl eon the same planet? What a moron: a: If that were to happen (he proposed anywhere from 10 times minimum wage to 20 times weekly average wage) there would be mass emigration of all of the people that made the country money. Plainly yet another looney left plan not thought through. A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them and, even as they are going into meltdown, they are still trying to exert absolute control betraying their deep socialist roots cunningly disguised as New Labour: a change of government can't come soon enough.

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    In the US, the whole point of the minimum wage laws is as political pay-back to the labor unions ... by making unskilled/entry-level labor more expensive by law, the unionized labor is effectively subsidized by the entire nation. The purpose of the original US minimum wage laws ... and as was openly stated/boasted at the time ... was to make the labor of black Americans, at the time predominantly rural and undereducated, who were moving to the Northern industrialized cities, too expensive in relation to their productivity to justify hiring them.

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      I was just listening to PMQs on the BBC - quite dull. However, immediately afterward a Labour goon called Paddy Tipping introduced the Maximum Wage Bill to the house. To my utter dismay it passed the first reading and will return for a second reading later in the year (most of the MPs had left the chmaber - why?). I realise it may not get much past that but what an idea. Are these peopl eon the same planet? What a moron: a: If that were to happen (he proposed anywhere from 10 times minimum wage to 20 times weekly average wage) there would be mass emigration of all of the people that made the country money. Plainly yet another looney left plan not thought through. A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them and, even as they are going into meltdown, they are still trying to exert absolute control betraying their deep socialist roots cunningly disguised as New Labour: a change of government can't come soon enough.

      me, me, me

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      digital man wrote:

      a change of government can't come soon enough.

      I could not agree more. Somebody please make them go away.

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        I was just listening to PMQs on the BBC - quite dull. However, immediately afterward a Labour goon called Paddy Tipping introduced the Maximum Wage Bill to the house. To my utter dismay it passed the first reading and will return for a second reading later in the year (most of the MPs had left the chmaber - why?). I realise it may not get much past that but what an idea. Are these peopl eon the same planet? What a moron: a: If that were to happen (he proposed anywhere from 10 times minimum wage to 20 times weekly average wage) there would be mass emigration of all of the people that made the country money. Plainly yet another looney left plan not thought through. A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them and, even as they are going into meltdown, they are still trying to exert absolute control betraying their deep socialist roots cunningly disguised as New Labour: a change of government can't come soon enough.

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        digital man wrote:

        A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them

        All governments are, unless they have strong libertarian leanings. The Conservatives may have a different agenda regarding what they want to control and how they want to control it, but never make the mistake of thinking that someone who believes he is suited to lead a county, county, or schoolboard is not someone who knows in his heart and head, that he knows better than anyone else how people should behave. Take a look at the posts on here: The strongest division I see is between the folks who want a government to tell them what to do and when to do it, and those who want the government to bugger the frack off.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          digital man wrote:

          A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them

          All governments are, unless they have strong libertarian leanings. The Conservatives may have a different agenda regarding what they want to control and how they want to control it, but never make the mistake of thinking that someone who believes he is suited to lead a county, county, or schoolboard is not someone who knows in his heart and head, that he knows better than anyone else how people should behave. Take a look at the posts on here: The strongest division I see is between the folks who want a government to tell them what to do and when to do it, and those who want the government to bugger the frack off.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Oakman wrote:

          The strongest division I see is between the folks who want a government to tell them what to do and when to do it, and those who want the government to bugger the frack off.

          I'll take a bit of the latter, if you don't mind. I do agree with what you say though the Tories are, in theory, more about less gov (read control) and taxes and more freedom of action, especially in business. In practice and given the grand fuckup that Labour has perpetrated upon these green and pleasant lands, that may not be possible in the short term.

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            I was just listening to PMQs on the BBC - quite dull. However, immediately afterward a Labour goon called Paddy Tipping introduced the Maximum Wage Bill to the house. To my utter dismay it passed the first reading and will return for a second reading later in the year (most of the MPs had left the chmaber - why?). I realise it may not get much past that but what an idea. Are these peopl eon the same planet? What a moron: a: If that were to happen (he proposed anywhere from 10 times minimum wage to 20 times weekly average wage) there would be mass emigration of all of the people that made the country money. Plainly yet another looney left plan not thought through. A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them and, even as they are going into meltdown, they are still trying to exert absolute control betraying their deep socialist roots cunningly disguised as New Labour: a change of government can't come soon enough.

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            See below, it is unlikely you'll have too long to wait until the Eton Rifles are marching over the hustings.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              Oakman wrote:

              The strongest division I see is between the folks who want a government to tell them what to do and when to do it, and those who want the government to bugger the frack off.

              I'll take a bit of the latter, if you don't mind. I do agree with what you say though the Tories are, in theory, more about less gov (read control) and taxes and more freedom of action, especially in business. In practice and given the grand fuckup that Labour has perpetrated upon these green and pleasant lands, that may not be possible in the short term.

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              digital man wrote:

              In practice and given the grand fuckup that Labour has perpetrated upon these green and pleasant lands, that may not be possible in the short term.

              That's, more or less, Obama's excuse. If you're familiar with the Popeye cartoons, Politicians are always a lot like Wimpy. They're gladly repay you on Tuesday, if you'll buy them a hamburger today. Only trouble is, Tuesday never comes. Back in 1917, the Congress imposed an income tax on the country -- because of the emergency. Apparently, WWI is still being waged. . .

              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                digital man wrote:

                In practice and given the grand fuckup that Labour has perpetrated upon these green and pleasant lands, that may not be possible in the short term.

                That's, more or less, Obama's excuse. If you're familiar with the Popeye cartoons, Politicians are always a lot like Wimpy. They're gladly repay you on Tuesday, if you'll buy them a hamburger today. Only trouble is, Tuesday never comes. Back in 1917, the Congress imposed an income tax on the country -- because of the emergency. Apparently, WWI is still being waged. . .

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                Britain got its in 1799[^] to figth the French. Now that is still going on!


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                  In the US, the whole point of the minimum wage laws is as political pay-back to the labor unions ... by making unskilled/entry-level labor more expensive by law, the unionized labor is effectively subsidized by the entire nation. The purpose of the original US minimum wage laws ... and as was openly stated/boasted at the time ... was to make the labor of black Americans, at the time predominantly rural and undereducated, who were moving to the Northern industrialized cities, too expensive in relation to their productivity to justify hiring them.

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                  This is about a MAXIMUM wage law.

                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    I was just listening to PMQs on the BBC - quite dull. However, immediately afterward a Labour goon called Paddy Tipping introduced the Maximum Wage Bill to the house. To my utter dismay it passed the first reading and will return for a second reading later in the year (most of the MPs had left the chmaber - why?). I realise it may not get much past that but what an idea. Are these peopl eon the same planet? What a moron: a: If that were to happen (he proposed anywhere from 10 times minimum wage to 20 times weekly average wage) there would be mass emigration of all of the people that made the country money. Plainly yet another looney left plan not thought through. A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them and, even as they are going into meltdown, they are still trying to exert absolute control betraying their deep socialist roots cunningly disguised as New Labour: a change of government can't come soon enough.

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                    Thats OK, they can just make up the difference in dividends, and they arent taxed as much either.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      This is about a MAXIMUM wage law.

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      This is about a MAXIMUM wage law.

                      I see that, now. That's even more stupid than a minimum wage.

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                        Britain got its in 1799[^] to figth the French. Now that is still going on!


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                        Now that is still going on!

                        Obviously why they didn't invite you to the 65th. I imagine it'll only be a few more years before D-Day will be the glorious story of De Gaulle coming ashore at Normandy with the aid of a few of his French-Canadien allies while Ike and Winston hung back afraid to commit their troops.

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                          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                          Now that is still going on!

                          Obviously why they didn't invite you to the 65th. I imagine it'll only be a few more years before D-Day will be the glorious story of De Gaulle coming ashore at Normandy with the aid of a few of his French-Canadien allies while Ike and Winston hung back afraid to commit their troops.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                          :laugh: Now that's funny! :-D

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                            Thats OK, they can just make up the difference in dividends, and they arent taxed as much either.

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            Indeed as most already do. The latest wheeze is interest free loans: must ask my accountant if it would worth my while...

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                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              Now that is still going on!

                              Obviously why they didn't invite you to the 65th. I imagine it'll only be a few more years before D-Day will be the glorious story of De Gaulle coming ashore at Normandy with the aid of a few of his French-Canadien allies while Ike and Winston hung back afraid to commit their troops.

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              Sounds about right. It is about time we invaded them again anyway.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                This is about a MAXIMUM wage law.

                                I see that, now. That's even more stupid than a minimum wage.

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                                Ilíon wrote:

                                That's even more stupid than a minimum wage.

                                Around 20 years ago, I worked at a small comapny where they had a policy, driven from the top down, of capping management wages based on subordnates wages. It was, if I remember well, caped to around 2x the next level of staffs' salary, and the MD was capped at 10x the trainees' entry wage. For the specific company it worked well. I think trainees were paid around £7,500 and so the boss earned £75,000. I was a junior and earned around £12,500; well within the 2x cap. There was also a bonus scheme that was not capped - but that is another thing all together.


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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  I was just listening to PMQs on the BBC - quite dull. However, immediately afterward a Labour goon called Paddy Tipping introduced the Maximum Wage Bill to the house. To my utter dismay it passed the first reading and will return for a second reading later in the year (most of the MPs had left the chmaber - why?). I realise it may not get much past that but what an idea. Are these peopl eon the same planet? What a moron: a: If that were to happen (he proposed anywhere from 10 times minimum wage to 20 times weekly average wage) there would be mass emigration of all of the people that made the country money. Plainly yet another looney left plan not thought through. A Labour government is about controlling the people, not governing them and, even as they are going into meltdown, they are still trying to exert absolute control betraying their deep socialist roots cunningly disguised as New Labour: a change of government can't come soon enough.

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                                  digital man wrote:

                                  a change of government can't come soon enough

                                  Throughout my adult life, this cry is made by the electorate as each Government is revealed to be a bunch of incompetent nincompoops. When asked why it is switching from Brand X to Brand Y, the electorate bleats "Well, they can't be any worse than the last lot". And so the UK lurches from the parliamentary 'dictatorship' of one bunch of carpetbaggers to the next. You should welcome the loony leftists and the rabid capitalists, at least those guys and gals have sincerely held beliefs. A government with the guts to rebuild the welfare state, or the guts dismantle it, would be preferable to the shambles that the Conservatives and New Labour have presided over for 30 odd years. But heigh-ho, from a series of prime ministers for whom carpetbagging was a career alternative (save for John Major :)), to the heir presumptive who has no profession other than carpetbagging. "I would not trust him with my daughter's pocket money" Jeff Randall - Daily Telegraph. "Never gave a straight answer when dissemblance was a plausible alternative" - ibid "A slippery individual" Ian King - Sun "Meet the new boss ...".

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