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how to beat around shutdown –a

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    RK11 2009
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    Hello , I am designing a VB application where i am forcing a machine shutdown using function as below. Function InitiateSystemShutdown Lib "advapi32.dll" But i found that the user can stop the forced shut down using the command "shutdown –a". So wanted a help as to how I can overcome this command and still force the shutdown. Thanks in advance for the same. Here in InitiateSystemShutdown function i am passing the forced parameter as true. still a user with admin rights on the m/c is able to abort the shut down.

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      Hello , I am designing a VB application where i am forcing a machine shutdown using function as below. Function InitiateSystemShutdown Lib "advapi32.dll" But i found that the user can stop the forced shut down using the command "shutdown –a". So wanted a help as to how I can overcome this command and still force the shutdown. Thanks in advance for the same. Here in InitiateSystemShutdown function i am passing the forced parameter as true. still a user with admin rights on the m/c is able to abort the shut down.

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      Mithun Shitole
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      Hi, Following link might be useful. http://www.dreamincode.net/code/snippet90.htm[^] Personally I think its not a good idea to force shutdown on user for whatsoever reason.

      Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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        Hi, Following link might be useful. http://www.dreamincode.net/code/snippet90.htm[^] Personally I think its not a good idea to force shutdown on user for whatsoever reason.

        Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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        RK11 2009
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        Thanks Mithun, but i wanted to know if the forced shut down has been initiated, the user should not be able to stop this by using "shutdown –a" command. How to achieve this?

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          Thanks Mithun, but i wanted to know if the forced shut down has been initiated, the user should not be able to stop this by using "shutdown –a" command. How to achieve this?

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          RK, The link tells you about a function "ExitWindowsEx" Lib "User32" , If you set parameter to FORCE, I think it can not be stopped using shutdown -a. ( I have tried it once and failed as system gets shutdown quickly ) Also I have tried by creating a batch file as following:

          shutdown -f
          shutdown -a

          Still my system logged off. So i think ExitWindwsEx with FORCED parameter is function for you.

          Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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            RK, The link tells you about a function "ExitWindowsEx" Lib "User32" , If you set parameter to FORCE, I think it can not be stopped using shutdown -a. ( I have tried it once and failed as system gets shutdown quickly ) Also I have tried by creating a batch file as following:

            shutdown -f
            shutdown -a

            Still my system logged off. So i think ExitWindwsEx with FORCED parameter is function for you.

            Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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            RK11 2009
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            I am using the InitiateSystemShutdown function and am forcing the shut down still a person with admin rights on the m/c is able to abort the shut down using shutdown -a command. so any help here.

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              I am using the InitiateSystemShutdown function and am forcing the shut down still a person with admin rights on the m/c is able to abort the shut down using shutdown -a command. so any help here.

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              Try setting the timeout parameter to 0.

              Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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                Try setting the timeout parameter to 0.

                Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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                RK11 2009
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                No , we have to dispaly the message to user some 5 mins before so that he can save the changes, so we can not put the timeout parameter as 0.

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                  No , we have to dispaly the message to user some 5 mins before so that he can save the changes, so we can not put the timeout parameter as 0.

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                  In that case, you have a few options, none of them in code. Remove the admin rights from the user Remove the shutdown.exe from the machine Add shutdown.exe to the list of forbidden executables using group policy

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                    In that case, you have a few options, none of them in code. Remove the admin rights from the user Remove the shutdown.exe from the machine Add shutdown.exe to the list of forbidden executables using group policy

                    A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                         2006, 2007, 2008

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                    RK11 2009
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                    Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply but we can not implement the above suggestions as the some user need the admin rights on their m/c and also the exe file has to run on each individuals m/c so that it can shut their PC at a particular time. Any other suggestion then pls do let me know.

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                      Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply but we can not implement the above suggestions as the some user need the admin rights on their m/c and also the exe file has to run on each individuals m/c so that it can shut their PC at a particular time. Any other suggestion then pls do let me know.

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                      Stupid suggestion but how about when you run your shutdown function rename shutdown.exe to shutdown.exe.bak or something so they can't run shutdown.exe with any parameters..

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                        Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply but we can not implement the above suggestions as the some user need the admin rights on their m/c and also the exe file has to run on each individuals m/c so that it can shut their PC at a particular time. Any other suggestion then pls do let me know.

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                        Than you just ruled out every option you have to preventing the users from aborting the shutdown. You're only other option how is to threaten people with termination for violating company policy.

                        A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                        Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                             2006, 2007, 2008

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                          Than you just ruled out every option you have to preventing the users from aborting the shutdown. You're only other option how is to threaten people with termination for violating company policy.

                          A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                          Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                               2006, 2007, 2008

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                          Then I think you have to write your own daemon so that you can connect to it, n call a routine which will show a shutdown timer , and on time up call a forced shutdown with 0 time inerval. :)

                          Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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                            Then I think you have to write your own daemon so that you can connect to it, n call a routine which will show a shutdown timer , and on time up call a forced shutdown with 0 time inerval. :)

                            Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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                            True. A little extreme for the problem at hand, but then again, they did themselves in with the poorly designed environment and policies. BTW: You may want to reply to the OP and not me. He's has no idea you posted this message because he didn't get the email that you posted to mine.

                            A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                            Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                                 2006, 2007, 2008

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                              True. A little extreme for the problem at hand, but then again, they did themselves in with the poorly designed environment and policies. BTW: You may want to reply to the OP and not me. He's has no idea you posted this message because he didn't get the email that you posted to mine.

                              A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                              Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                                   2006, 2007, 2008

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                              Mithun Shitole
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                              Thanks Dave, I am new to cp and was unaware of this cool feature.

                              Mithun Shitole "Free Your Mind" http://www.technoyaari.com

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