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  • S SimonS

    Don't get me wrong, I love Microsoft; I love Bill; I got teary-eyed when Charles Simonyi said he's leaving MS, but: When I click on the volume icon in the systray and have to wait like 10 seconds for some pissant lil' window to popup, I say to my self, "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" :mad::mad: What's your worst performing feature in Windows? (the kernel is not a valid answer. ;P) Cheers, Simon "Sign up for a chance to be among the first to experience the wrath of the gods.", Microsoft's home page (24/06/2002)

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    Roger Wright
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    Explorer.exe - in WinXP it stops responding and shuts down whenever an error occurs (several times a day). In Win2K it happens rarely, but when it does, it fails to repopulate the system tray. Activating any of the missing apps then requires a restart or opening a second instance, as the apps running there don't appear in task manager. Word of the day: Rotundacrat
    Extra Credit will be awarded for: Quasimobo...

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      I don't understand why they don't just cache the list of possible apps. I mean, really! Cheers, Simon "Sign up for a chance to be among the first to experience the wrath of the gods.", Microsoft's home page (24/06/2002)

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      Megan Forbes
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      In a better world we would have a "Purge Ram" button, which could reliably free up all Ram no longer being used, without losing anything important. Maybe one day, when I'm infinitly better at coding than I am right now, I'll manage to make such a tool, speeding up pc's for the rest of time ;P The following statement about your geekness is true.
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        Open With.. always takes ages to popup for me, and then it often decides to make itself the back most window, so you don't realise it's popped up! :mad: -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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        Ray Cassick
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        I second this one.

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        • S SimonS

          Don't get me wrong, I love Microsoft; I love Bill; I got teary-eyed when Charles Simonyi said he's leaving MS, but: When I click on the volume icon in the systray and have to wait like 10 seconds for some pissant lil' window to popup, I say to my self, "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" :mad::mad: What's your worst performing feature in Windows? (the kernel is not a valid answer. ;P) Cheers, Simon "Sign up for a chance to be among the first to experience the wrath of the gods.", Microsoft's home page (24/06/2002)

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          Ray Cassick
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          SimonS wrote: "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" Hmmmmm Amazing how someone makes assumptions... I had no idea that sndvol32.exe was a VB application... Care to share with me where you found that out?

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            The Explorer task in Windows 2000 is by far the wosrt. It is almost guaranteed to die within a few hours when I use it - perhaps it's something to do with my P2P software I don't know, but I do know that after a fresh install of Win2K, it suddenly came up with an Explorer error and that's with no other software on there! Only work-around is to kill the task with Task Manager and re-run it, but then I lose my tray-icons for my P2P software. Then I start playing Quake 3 and wonder why my ping is so poor! "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."

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            Shog9 0
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            Yeah... Explorer on Win2k is quite flakey. That said, it's much improved with Service Pack 2, and doesn't bother me anymore provided i don't leave too many explorer windows open for more than a few hours. Shog9 ------ If you really what to get shitfacde tell a crowded bar that is is yourt borthday and hife your wallet. you ka will many more friends.

            - David Wulff, Brithday selebrations, 9/19/02

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            • R Ray Cassick

              SimonS wrote: "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" Hmmmmm Amazing how someone makes assumptions... I had no idea that sndvol32.exe was a VB application... Care to share with me where you found that out?

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              Shog9 0
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              Ray Cassick wrote: I had no idea that sndvol32.exe was a VB application Donno if it is or not; but what Simon wrote was VB developers, a common slang term meaning "people who can't figure out how to pop up a dialog with two controls in less than 10 secs when the system is under no load". Shog9 ------ If you really what to get shitfacde tell a crowded bar that is is yourt borthday and hife your wallet. you ka will many more friends.

              - David Wulff, Brithday selebrations, 9/19/02

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              • S SimonS

                Don't get me wrong, I love Microsoft; I love Bill; I got teary-eyed when Charles Simonyi said he's leaving MS, but: When I click on the volume icon in the systray and have to wait like 10 seconds for some pissant lil' window to popup, I say to my self, "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" :mad::mad: What's your worst performing feature in Windows? (the kernel is not a valid answer. ;P) Cheers, Simon "Sign up for a chance to be among the first to experience the wrath of the gods.", Microsoft's home page (24/06/2002)

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                Daniel Ferguson
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                Worst performing would be browsing the LAN. It takes ages to get access to one of the other computers. As for things that bother me, I have a whole list: Can't customise the time format in the systray -- I want the date there too. I use detail view in Exploder and the column widths are constantly resetting to a horrible default value (I just wrote a hook program to fix this). I have a quicklaunch style appbar and it vanishes at random times. The new autoplay in XP. It wasn't broken in Win2K. In fact I hate all the cute 'helpful' stuff that does annoying things I don't want without asking. Some of them have settings deep in the dark heart of control panel which allow me to turn them off. Others, unfortunately, don't. Oh, I also hate 'My Documents'. No, I don't want to put all my data into one folder on my system drive. I put my important data on my other drives so that when something horrible goes wrong, I can format the system drive without worrying about losing anything. _____________________ "So in the interests of survival, they trained themselves to be agreeing machines instead of thinking machines. All their minds had to do was to discover what other people were thinking, and then they thought that, too." Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut

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                  In a better world we would have a "Purge Ram" button, which could reliably free up all Ram no longer being used, without losing anything important. Maybe one day, when I'm infinitly better at coding than I am right now, I'll manage to make such a tool, speeding up pc's for the rest of time ;P The following statement about your geekness is true.
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                  Ray Cassick
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                  Don't bother... there are tons of them... here's one: http://www.memturbo.com/productinfo.htm[^] In the long run they end up doing nothing but killing performance because they flush out cached code to reclaim physical RAM.

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                    Worst performing would be browsing the LAN. It takes ages to get access to one of the other computers. As for things that bother me, I have a whole list: Can't customise the time format in the systray -- I want the date there too. I use detail view in Exploder and the column widths are constantly resetting to a horrible default value (I just wrote a hook program to fix this). I have a quicklaunch style appbar and it vanishes at random times. The new autoplay in XP. It wasn't broken in Win2K. In fact I hate all the cute 'helpful' stuff that does annoying things I don't want without asking. Some of them have settings deep in the dark heart of control panel which allow me to turn them off. Others, unfortunately, don't. Oh, I also hate 'My Documents'. No, I don't want to put all my data into one folder on my system drive. I put my important data on my other drives so that when something horrible goes wrong, I can format the system drive without worrying about losing anything. _____________________ "So in the interests of survival, they trained themselves to be agreeing machines instead of thinking machines. All their minds had to do was to discover what other people were thinking, and then they thought that, too." Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut

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                    Ray Cassick
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                    Daniel Ferguson wrote: Can't customise the time format in the systray -- I want the date there too. Try this little app... has worked great for me... http://users.iafrica.com/d/da/dalen/tclockex.htm[^]

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                    • _ _Magnus_

                      The favorits menu in IE is annoying if you have several items under a popup, it pops up slow, and if you add a new item, what the fuck is it sorted by!? Takes 20 looks up and down the menu to find it. And what is up with the custom icons? They show upp when adding the favorit, but after about 10 minutes they are gone and never comes back again.:mad: /Magnus


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                      Domenic Denicola
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                      _Magnus_ wrote: what the f*** is it sorted by!? Date of insertion, the first item being the first item you added to your favorites. _Magnus_ wrote: ey show upp when adding the favorit, but after about 10 minutes they are gone and never comes back again. They go away when you clear you cache or perhaps when it fills up.

                      -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                      • S Shog9 0

                        Ray Cassick wrote: I had no idea that sndvol32.exe was a VB application Donno if it is or not; but what Simon wrote was VB developers, a common slang term meaning "people who can't figure out how to pop up a dialog with two controls in less than 10 secs when the system is under no load". Shog9 ------ If you really what to get shitfacde tell a crowded bar that is is yourt borthday and hife your wallet. you ka will many more friends.

                        - David Wulff, Brithday selebrations, 9/19/02

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                        Ray Cassick
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                        Yeah, maybe I should have not spouted off so quickly... but I am getting very tired of the wide-spread generalization that ALL Visual Basic developers are crap.

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                        • D Daniel Ferguson

                          Worst performing would be browsing the LAN. It takes ages to get access to one of the other computers. As for things that bother me, I have a whole list: Can't customise the time format in the systray -- I want the date there too. I use detail view in Exploder and the column widths are constantly resetting to a horrible default value (I just wrote a hook program to fix this). I have a quicklaunch style appbar and it vanishes at random times. The new autoplay in XP. It wasn't broken in Win2K. In fact I hate all the cute 'helpful' stuff that does annoying things I don't want without asking. Some of them have settings deep in the dark heart of control panel which allow me to turn them off. Others, unfortunately, don't. Oh, I also hate 'My Documents'. No, I don't want to put all my data into one folder on my system drive. I put my important data on my other drives so that when something horrible goes wrong, I can format the system drive without worrying about losing anything. _____________________ "So in the interests of survival, they trained themselves to be agreeing machines instead of thinking machines. All their minds had to do was to discover what other people were thinking, and then they thought that, too." Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut

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                          > Oh, I also hate 'My Documents'. No, I don't want to put all my data > into one folder on my system drive. I put my important data on my other > drives so that when something horrible goes wrong, I can format the system > drive without worrying about losing anything. You can right-click on the My Documents folder, select Properties, and then move it elsewhere. I've assigned mine to J:\ (the root), a 700MB partition. When I run out of space on it, I know it's getting too large to back up to a CD.

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                            Worst performing would be browsing the LAN. It takes ages to get access to one of the other computers. As for things that bother me, I have a whole list: Can't customise the time format in the systray -- I want the date there too. I use detail view in Exploder and the column widths are constantly resetting to a horrible default value (I just wrote a hook program to fix this). I have a quicklaunch style appbar and it vanishes at random times. The new autoplay in XP. It wasn't broken in Win2K. In fact I hate all the cute 'helpful' stuff that does annoying things I don't want without asking. Some of them have settings deep in the dark heart of control panel which allow me to turn them off. Others, unfortunately, don't. Oh, I also hate 'My Documents'. No, I don't want to put all my data into one folder on my system drive. I put my important data on my other drives so that when something horrible goes wrong, I can format the system drive without worrying about losing anything. _____________________ "So in the interests of survival, they trained themselves to be agreeing machines instead of thinking machines. All their minds had to do was to discover what other people were thinking, and then they thought that, too." Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut

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                            Domenic Denicola
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                            Daniel Ferguson wrote: (I just wrote a hook program to fix this). Mind giving me a copy? This is my big pet peeve also.

                            -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                            • R Ray Cassick

                              Yeah, maybe I should have not spouted off so quickly... but I am getting very tired of the wide-spread generalization that ALL Visual Basic developers are crap.

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                              Hey, i write some VB code. I'm not heavily into it, but i see a place for it, and use it when it makes sense to. But i can't say i like it, and for sure have seen a *huge* amount of really, truely, awful code written in VB. Shog9 ------ If you really what to get shitfacde tell a crowded bar that is is yourt borthday and hife your wallet. you ka will many more friends.

                              - David Wulff, Brithday selebrations, 9/19/02

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                              • D Domenic Denicola

                                _Magnus_ wrote: what the f*** is it sorted by!? Date of insertion, the first item being the first item you added to your favorites. _Magnus_ wrote: ey show upp when adding the favorit, but after about 10 minutes they are gone and never comes back again. They go away when you clear you cache or perhaps when it fills up.

                                -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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                                Domenic [Geekn] wrote: Date of insertion, the first item being the first item you added to your favorites Not in my favorites menu, items ends up on seemingly random positions. Domenic [Geekn] wrote: They go away when you clear you cache or perhaps when it fills up. I have never cleared my cache, dont know when exactly they dissapear, but it does not take long. /Magnus


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                                • S SimonS

                                  Don't get me wrong, I love Microsoft; I love Bill; I got teary-eyed when Charles Simonyi said he's leaving MS, but: When I click on the volume icon in the systray and have to wait like 10 seconds for some pissant lil' window to popup, I say to my self, "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" :mad::mad: What's your worst performing feature in Windows? (the kernel is not a valid answer. ;P) Cheers, Simon "Sign up for a chance to be among the first to experience the wrath of the gods.", Microsoft's home page (24/06/2002)

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                                  The standard File|Open dialog box, when on My Computer, decides to sort by Total Size instead of drive letter. EXPLORER.EXE and Connections Tray (?) causing the End Program dialog box to pop up when logging off or shutting down. EXPLORER.EXE crashing randomly on XP on my office machine (though it's otherwise rock-solid on all my other systems, I'm not likely to take the time to reinstall the OS just to fix this). Too many other idiosyncracies I can't think of right now...

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                                    Hey, i write some VB code. I'm not heavily into it, but i see a place for it, and use it when it makes sense to. But i can't say i like it, and for sure have seen a *huge* amount of really, truely, awful code written in VB. Shog9 ------ If you really what to get shitfacde tell a crowded bar that is is yourt borthday and hife your wallet. you ka will many more friends.

                                    - David Wulff, Brithday selebrations, 9/19/02

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                                    Shog9 wrote: have seen a *huge* amount of really, truely, awful code written in VB. OK, I'll agree to that as well... 'Nuf said

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                                      Don't get me wrong, I love Microsoft; I love Bill; I got teary-eyed when Charles Simonyi said he's leaving MS, but: When I click on the volume icon in the systray and have to wait like 10 seconds for some pissant lil' window to popup, I say to my self, "why oh why did they let those VB developers write code in windows!" :mad::mad: What's your worst performing feature in Windows? (the kernel is not a valid answer. ;P) Cheers, Simon "Sign up for a chance to be among the first to experience the wrath of the gods.", Microsoft's home page (24/06/2002)

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                                      Pet rant: the fact that when you select multiple files in explorer (say, 100) and you want to delete them. If any single file cannot be deleted the entire operation quits at that file, leaving you to reselect the remaining files (and hope a refresh/resort hasn't occurred) and try again. Why not just say "file x can't be deleted. Continue?". Unforgiveable. Rant #2: WTF does Outlook save attachments as read-only? ARGH! It does NOTHING to help safety/productivity. All it means is that you get stupid confirmation dialogs popping up whenever you try and move or delete them. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        Pet rant: the fact that when you select multiple files in explorer (say, 100) and you want to delete them. If any single file cannot be deleted the entire operation quits at that file, leaving you to reselect the remaining files (and hope a refresh/resort hasn't occurred) and try again. Why not just say "file x can't be deleted. Continue?". Unforgiveable. Rant #2: WTF does Outlook save attachments as read-only? ARGH! It does NOTHING to help safety/productivity. All it means is that you get stupid confirmation dialogs popping up whenever you try and move or delete them. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        Shog9 0
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                                        Chris Maunder wrote: Pet rant: Yeah, i'll second that one. How many years has it been since Norton Commander came out? You'd think MS would have figured out how to do move/copy/delete correctly by now... Shog9 ------ If you really what to get shitfacde tell a crowded bar that is is yourt borthday and hife your wallet. you ka will many more friends.

                                        - David Wulff, Brithday selebrations, 9/19/02

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                                        • M Megan Forbes

                                          In a better world we would have a "Purge Ram" button, which could reliably free up all Ram no longer being used, without losing anything important. Maybe one day, when I'm infinitly better at coding than I am right now, I'll manage to make such a tool, speeding up pc's for the rest of time ;P The following statement about your geekness is true.
                                          The previous statement about your geekness is false.

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                                          Megan Forbes wrote: Maybe one day, when I'm infinitly better at coding than I am right now, I'll manage to make such a tool, speeding up pc's for the rest of time You sound like Bill Sergio.:laugh::laugh::laugh: Megan Forbes - Infomercial Queen Cheers :) Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens!

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