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Here's a thought, moron. Is it the lower levels of the socio-economic system that have more abortions ? Probably. Because it's people like you who are too dumb to use a condom ( well, people as smart as you, but who are able to attract a mate ). So what ? It's only what you claim it is, if they are being forced.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
It's only what you claim it is, if they are being forced.
No, that is not true Eugene. From Wikipedia: There are three main ways by which the methods of eugenics can be applied. One is mandatory eugenics or authoritarian eugenics, in which the government mandates a eugenics program. Policies and/or legislation is often seen as being coercive and restrictive. Another is promotional voluntary eugenics, in which eugenics is voluntarily practiced and promoted to the general population, but not officially mandated. This is a form of non-state enforced eugenics, using a liberal or democratic approach, which can mostly be seen in the 1900s. The third is private eugenics, which is practiced voluntarily by individuals and groups, but not promoted to the general population.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its time that the sheep like Ravel and Graus wake up out of their deep slumber of denial and delusion. Though they are socialist eugenicists, so they may love chemtrails.[^]
Why is it that you have to insult me by name, every time, even though when I engage you, you ignore every point I raise in discussion, and then run crying like a baby when the pressure of being proven wrong and clueless proves too much ? Last time you disappeared for over 24 hours, why invite that sort of public shaming on yourself again ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
you ignore every point I raise in discussion
Such as, people should give up their liberties for freedom, less is more, and weakness is strength. You may not like such simplifications but those are the points you raise and they are absurd. I'm sure you will respond by saying that I don't have rights because I am of no value as a resource and that I need to be sterilized and medicated to keep me complacent, compliant, and mostly deactivated.
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Well, first I want your honest opinion on what groups of women you think receive the largest percentage of abortions.
Come on, hurry up - I want some evidence.
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Come on, hurry up - I want some evidence.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's only what you claim it is, if they are being forced.
No, that is not true Eugene. From Wikipedia: There are three main ways by which the methods of eugenics can be applied. One is mandatory eugenics or authoritarian eugenics, in which the government mandates a eugenics program. Policies and/or legislation is often seen as being coercive and restrictive. Another is promotional voluntary eugenics, in which eugenics is voluntarily practiced and promoted to the general population, but not officially mandated. This is a form of non-state enforced eugenics, using a liberal or democratic approach, which can mostly be seen in the 1900s. The third is private eugenics, which is practiced voluntarily by individuals and groups, but not promoted to the general population.
This is still BS. I don't care what wikipedia says. Giving people access to abortion, only works as a form of eugenics, if eugenics is actually valid. You're saying that the poor are too stupid to work out that they are being given the means to kill themselves for some sinister reason. In fact, what's more likely is that the poor do make stupid decisions, such as unprotected sex ( in other words, access to abortions disproportionate only because making an intelligent choice about birth control is disproportionate ), either through general lack of education, or general lack of life skills. They have more abortions because they are more likely to get pregnant at 14. I am personally against abortion. But then, I am also for sex education, something the anti abortion side of your political agenda also seems to oppose.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
you ignore every point I raise in discussion
Such as, people should give up their liberties for freedom, less is more, and weakness is strength. You may not like such simplifications but those are the points you raise and they are absurd. I'm sure you will respond by saying that I don't have rights because I am of no value as a resource and that I need to be sterilized and medicated to keep me complacent, compliant, and mostly deactivated.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Such as, people should give up their liberties for freedom, less is more, and weakness is strength.
No, those are points I've NEVER made, and that I've asked you to prove that I've said, directly or indirectly. The closest I have come to that, is that I've defended the fact that any society, by definition, has laws, and that you cannot have complete freedom to do anything you want, without anarchy ( which is what complete freedom is ).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You may not like such simplifications but those are the points you raise and they are absurd.
No, you are retreating to absurd interpretations of my statements, because when I make a clear statement, you have no answer to it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm sure you will respond by saying that I don't have rights because I am of no value as a resource and that I need to be sterilized and medicated to keep me complacent, compliant, and mostly deactivated.
No, this is just you combining all the absurdties that you attribute to me as a way of shielding your self mentally from having to think about what I actually DID say.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its time that the sheep like Ravel and Graus wake up out of their deep slumber of denial and delusion. Though they are socialist eugenicists, so they may love chemtrails.[^]
Why is it that you have to insult me by name, every time, even though when I engage you, you ignore every point I raise in discussion, and then run crying like a baby when the pressure of being proven wrong and clueless proves too much ? Last time you disappeared for over 24 hours, why invite that sort of public shaming on yourself again ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Wow, so after a fair amount of time being away from CP, somethings I've noticed haven't changed.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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This is still BS. I don't care what wikipedia says. Giving people access to abortion, only works as a form of eugenics, if eugenics is actually valid. You're saying that the poor are too stupid to work out that they are being given the means to kill themselves for some sinister reason. In fact, what's more likely is that the poor do make stupid decisions, such as unprotected sex ( in other words, access to abortions disproportionate only because making an intelligent choice about birth control is disproportionate ), either through general lack of education, or general lack of life skills. They have more abortions because they are more likely to get pregnant at 14. I am personally against abortion. But then, I am also for sex education, something the anti abortion side of your political agenda also seems to oppose.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
This is still BS. I don't care what wikipedia says. Giving people access to abortion, only works as a form of eugenics
That is an example of doublethink, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics. What a hell of a twisted warped reality you live in. There are many different forms of suicide, but ultimately it is still suicide.
Christian Graus wrote:
But then, I am also for sex education, something the anti abortion side of your political agenda also seems to oppose.
I remember my little brother telling me that when he was 10 or 11 years old in elementary school, they were showing videos of ejaculating penises and things of that nature. There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good. Sex education is not necessary. Responsibility and good morals need to be taught more than how to have homosexual intercourse and to push homosexuality onto young minds.
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Christian Graus wrote:
This is still BS. I don't care what wikipedia says. Giving people access to abortion, only works as a form of eugenics
That is an example of doublethink, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics. What a hell of a twisted warped reality you live in. There are many different forms of suicide, but ultimately it is still suicide.
Christian Graus wrote:
But then, I am also for sex education, something the anti abortion side of your political agenda also seems to oppose.
I remember my little brother telling me that when he was 10 or 11 years old in elementary school, they were showing videos of ejaculating penises and things of that nature. There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good. Sex education is not necessary. Responsibility and good morals need to be taught more than how to have homosexual intercourse and to push homosexuality onto young minds.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
That is an example of doublethink
No, it's an example of your illiteracy
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics.
You're a moron. I said it could only be considered a form of eugenics IF.... In other words, only a blithering idiot would consider access to abortion being a form of population control.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are many different forms of suicide, but ultimately it is still suicide.
Well, suicide is always done at one's own will, so has nothing to do with forced death.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I remember my little brother telling me that when he was 10 or 11 years old in elementary school, they were showing videos of ejaculating penises and things of that nature.
Well, that is a little bizarre. I expect he meant they were showing videos of sperm, not of penises.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good.
Well, that just explains the sort of BS, biased, flat out lying news sources you favour, and the sort of twisted world view that you have. In any case, assuming this is true ( and I've read the news stories, what you've said is a misrepresentation of what is being reported ), it doesn't prove anything. Some sex education may be misguided. No sex education, is still retarded.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Sex education is not necessary
You are an absolute moron. Sex education IS necessary, it's VITAL. If you don't teach kids, then they will just work it out for themselves, and they are most likely to work out where babies from, by having one. I understand that you didn't need it, because you are unable to attract a mate, but for people with normal social skills, the opportunity will arise, and it's better that they are informed when it does.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Responsibility and good morals need to be taught
How in the HELL does one teach good morals without teaching what sex is ? 'you know that thing I am keeping a secret from you ? Please don't do it'. You a
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You say that you're smart, but you're obviously not. You cannot 'have an opinion' on which demographic has the highest abortion rate: it is objectively true that one of them does, and if you think you know the answer you can be either right or wrong about it. An example of an opinion would be whether or not you think that people should have abortions; this opinion will have no bearing on the reality of it. I know that these simple concepts are difficult for you to grasp, but try to at least sound like you know what you're talking about next post when you've decided at long last to actually prove your point.
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Christian Graus wrote:
This is still BS. I don't care what wikipedia says. Giving people access to abortion, only works as a form of eugenics
That is an example of doublethink, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics. What a hell of a twisted warped reality you live in. There are many different forms of suicide, but ultimately it is still suicide.
Christian Graus wrote:
But then, I am also for sex education, something the anti abortion side of your political agenda also seems to oppose.
I remember my little brother telling me that when he was 10 or 11 years old in elementary school, they were showing videos of ejaculating penises and things of that nature. There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good. Sex education is not necessary. Responsibility and good morals need to be taught more than how to have homosexual intercourse and to push homosexuality onto young minds.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good.
I'm in the UK and would like a link to that. I read most major newspapers and news feeds, and nothing came up about that. You've made the assertion, now I would like you to provide some proof
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
That is an example of doublethink, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics. What a hell of a twisted warped reality you live in.
Read the rest of the sentence. There was a conditional clause in there, which you seem to have missed out in your quote. Mr Graus clearly doesn't believe that eugenics is valid for whatever reason; since the conditional is false, so is the first part of that sentence
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You say that you're smart, but you're obviously not. You cannot 'have an opinion' on which demographic has the highest abortion rate: it is objectively true that one of them does, and if you think you know the answer you can be either right or wrong about it. An example of an opinion would be whether or not you think that people should have abortions; this opinion will have no bearing on the reality of it. I know that these simple concepts are difficult for you to grasp, but try to at least sound like you know what you're talking about next post when you've decided at long last to actually prove your point.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
try to at least sound like you know what you're talking about next post when you've decided at long last to actually prove your point.
You make it sound like he's actually capable of that. In my opinion, his synaptic pathways are too far gone for that. Here's hoping he'll prove me wrong
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
try to at least sound like you know what you're talking about next post when you've decided at long last to actually prove your point.
You make it sound like he's actually capable of that. In my opinion, his synaptic pathways are too far gone for that. Here's hoping he'll prove me wrong
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Computafreak wrote:
Here's hoping he'll prove me wrong
Definitely. I'm ready for a nice surprise.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
That is an example of doublethink
No, it's an example of your illiteracy
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics.
You're a moron. I said it could only be considered a form of eugenics IF.... In other words, only a blithering idiot would consider access to abortion being a form of population control.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are many different forms of suicide, but ultimately it is still suicide.
Well, suicide is always done at one's own will, so has nothing to do with forced death.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I remember my little brother telling me that when he was 10 or 11 years old in elementary school, they were showing videos of ejaculating penises and things of that nature.
Well, that is a little bizarre. I expect he meant they were showing videos of sperm, not of penises.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good.
Well, that just explains the sort of BS, biased, flat out lying news sources you favour, and the sort of twisted world view that you have. In any case, assuming this is true ( and I've read the news stories, what you've said is a misrepresentation of what is being reported ), it doesn't prove anything. Some sex education may be misguided. No sex education, is still retarded.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Sex education is not necessary
You are an absolute moron. Sex education IS necessary, it's VITAL. If you don't teach kids, then they will just work it out for themselves, and they are most likely to work out where babies from, by having one. I understand that you didn't need it, because you are unable to attract a mate, but for people with normal social skills, the opportunity will arise, and it's better that they are informed when it does.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Responsibility and good morals need to be taught
How in the HELL does one teach good morals without teaching what sex is ? 'you know that thing I am keeping a secret from you ? Please don't do it'. You a
Christian Graus wrote:
f you don't teach kids, then they will just work it out for themselves, and they are most likely to work out where babies from, by having one.
Its the parents responsibility, not the states. The state can teach the science behind sex, but not anything else.
Christian Graus wrote:
You can't 'push homosexuality on to young minds'. You can probably push tolerance of others, but people are gay because they are born that way.
Bullshit, absolute bullshit. Some people are born gay due to hormonal imbalances, others are just sexually deviant, have some psychological issues, or were taught that way by the media and institutions. Why don't you give your kids some gay porn and tell them "its ok, they are normal".
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There was also something in the news a couple weeks back about the UK encouraging children to have sex because it feels good.
I'm in the UK and would like a link to that. I read most major newspapers and news feeds, and nothing came up about that. You've made the assertion, now I would like you to provide some proof
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
That is an example of doublethink, denying abortion is eugenics but then acknowledging it as a form of eugenics. What a hell of a twisted warped reality you live in.
Read the rest of the sentence. There was a conditional clause in there, which you seem to have missed out in your quote. Mr Graus clearly doesn't believe that eugenics is valid for whatever reason; since the conditional is false, so is the first part of that sentence
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Christian Graus wrote:
f you don't teach kids, then they will just work it out for themselves, and they are most likely to work out where babies from, by having one.
Its the parents responsibility, not the states. The state can teach the science behind sex, but not anything else.
Christian Graus wrote:
You can't 'push homosexuality on to young minds'. You can probably push tolerance of others, but people are gay because they are born that way.
Bullshit, absolute bullshit. Some people are born gay due to hormonal imbalances, others are just sexually deviant, have some psychological issues, or were taught that way by the media and institutions. Why don't you give your kids some gay porn and tell them "its ok, they are normal".
wow years of research into this subject and they have to to provide ANY evidence that its anything but a natural state and you manage to debunk it in seconds. sorry but I think you must be a deviant and should be chemically castrated - advocating forcing childerd to view porn what kind of man are you to do such pervert act (see I too can twist words out of context)
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So, a branch of the NHS gives out a single new 'brand' of pamphlet, in a single city, and somehow that's the whole UK? Unless you're implying that the UK has been absorbed by the city of Sheffield... For your information, I've been on the receiving end of those pamphlets. They are given to peer support assistants (people who ask, "what do you want to do with your life?" and other questions like this) and are available on demand. At the most, there's an announcement in assembly saying that a new pamphlet is stocked, and to ask if we want one. Nothing is compulsory, and they aren't put into lessons
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So, a branch of the NHS gives out a single new 'brand' of pamphlet, in a single city, and somehow that's the whole UK? Unless you're implying that the UK has been absorbed by the city of Sheffield... For your information, I've been on the receiving end of those pamphlets. They are given to peer support assistants (people who ask, "what do you want to do with your life?" and other questions like this) and are available on demand. At the most, there's an announcement in assembly saying that a new pamphlet is stocked, and to ask if we want one. Nothing is compulsory, and they aren't put into lessons
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Government institutions shouldn't be promoting sex to teens as a way to relieve stress or for entertainment.
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Government institutions shouldn't be promoting sex to teens as a way to relieve stress or for entertainment.
Of course not. It is supposed to be an act of love in a correspondingly loving and stable relationship (I would say marriage, but that's just my preferences showing.) I simply corrected a point that you made about the entire teen population of the UK being told that we should all have sex simply for the pleasure value. I have more that I have to deal with than the satisfaction of my Id.
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Christian Graus wrote:
f you don't teach kids, then they will just work it out for themselves, and they are most likely to work out where babies from, by having one.
Its the parents responsibility, not the states. The state can teach the science behind sex, but not anything else.
Christian Graus wrote:
You can't 'push homosexuality on to young minds'. You can probably push tolerance of others, but people are gay because they are born that way.
Bullshit, absolute bullshit. Some people are born gay due to hormonal imbalances, others are just sexually deviant, have some psychological issues, or were taught that way by the media and institutions. Why don't you give your kids some gay porn and tell them "its ok, they are normal".
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The state can teach the science behind sex, but not anything else.
Plumbing is the only thing I advocate the state teach. But, abstinence only sex education does not even teach that.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Some people are born gay due to hormonal imbalances, others are just sexually deviant, have some psychological issues, or were taught that way by the media and institutions.
You are an ignorant moron. How can someone be 'just sexually deviant' ? What's the cause ? Prove to me that this is true. You can't, because it's not based on any science, it's based on your willful ignorance.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why don't you give your kids some gay porn and tell them "its ok, they are normal".
I don't give my kids any porn, strangely enough. I notice you ignored most of what I said to you, because you have no reply. Sex education is not the same as access to porn.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.