Population control in general
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Whenever there is a hurricane that hits the east coast, we in the Midwest always get the leftovers. So you must be somehow mistaken.
I'm bored. I think I'm gonna go have a shower.
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By being dumped into the ocean.
Whenever there is a hurricane that hits the east coast, we in the Midwest always get the leftovers. So you must be somehow mistaken.
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LunaticFringe wrote:
a plastic sludge patch inthe middle of the Pacific the size of Texas...
That's been there for a long time. It's just on the news now ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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OK, I concede: YouTube and that Alex Jones idiot. Wow, I'm impressed.
Alex Jones isn't an idiot. He's making good money on what he does. ;)
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Christian Graus wrote:
Youtube says otherwise. Facts, do not.
So you are saying their is a big conspiracy orchestrated by youtube to mislead millions of people away from the wonderful people at monsanto who are saving the planet with their pesticides and GM crops into the arms of the evil organic food devils?
No, I am saying that sad and lonely people create youtube videos as a way to deal with the randomness of life.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Its too much work to maintain several conversations at once with someone who is going to disagree with me no matter what I say about anything. Besides, I have more entertaining things to do.
And yet, you post a ton of crap, but don't reply to my main point, my main reply.
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No, I am saying that sad and lonely people create youtube videos as a way to deal with the randomness of life.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
No, I am saying that sad and lonely people create youtube videos as a way to deal with the randomness of life.
Every video a link to is sold as a real factual documentary. Its kind of a copyright issue for them to be on youtube, but that doesn't make the documentary any less valid.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Nothing lives there that could help support human life,
Indians used to do it.
Christian Graus wrote:
Can the population of New York grow food in their apartments ?
I'd suspect they would be buying up whatever land they could get so they could grow their own food.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd suspect they would be buying up whatever land they could get so they could grow their own food.
As usual, you imagine an infinite amount of resources.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Indians used to do it.
Oh, if you accept a huge drop in lifestyle and an increased mortality rate, lots of people have survived in the desert. Too bad we don't know how. And too bad that it requires huge amounts of desert per person.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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And yet, you post a ton of crap, but don't reply to my main point, my main reply.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Thats because you are a waste of time.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'd suspect they would be buying up whatever land they could get so they could grow their own food.
As usual, you imagine an infinite amount of resources.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Indians used to do it.
Oh, if you accept a huge drop in lifestyle and an increased mortality rate, lots of people have survived in the desert. Too bad we don't know how. And too bad that it requires huge amounts of desert per person.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Nature will balance out the ecosystem. Quite frankly I don't give a damn if people starve, as long as they stay the hell out of my life they will starve in peace.
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Nature will balance out the ecosystem. Quite frankly I don't give a damn if people starve, as long as they stay the hell out of my life they will starve in peace.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Quite frankly I don't give a damn if people starve
As long as they are not you eh? If ordinary people don't matter to you, why do you keep banging on with your conspiracy theories? After all, if you are right (a big if) then it will also affect those people you don't give a damn for. So why are you bothering?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Quite frankly I don't give a damn if people starve
As long as they are not you eh? If ordinary people don't matter to you, why do you keep banging on with your conspiracy theories? After all, if you are right (a big if) then it will also affect those people you don't give a damn for. So why are you bothering?
Because I don't want to live in a world where I am a disposable slave in a world-wide regime.
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Because I don't want to live in a world where I am a disposable slave in a world-wide regime.
You have already stood up and (in a manner of speak) said "I am Spartacus". The problem is, nobody else is standing up with you, so you are alone and thus are making yourself an easy target, and perhaps unintentionally continuing to make yourself look foolish.
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You have already stood up and (in a manner of speak) said "I am Spartacus". The problem is, nobody else is standing up with you, so you are alone and thus are making yourself an easy target, and perhaps unintentionally continuing to make yourself look foolish.
Believe me, I am in no way alone. I'm with tens of millions of people here in America, and more around the world. I'm no leader, I am just a messenger.
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Because I don't want to live in a world where I am a disposable slave in a world-wide regime.
Sorry to inform you but the reason why your not a dispoable slave is that you are actually less important than that, you are actually so insignicant in the way of things that if your beliefs in these stupid schemes were true you would still be safe as you would not be worth the effort
Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.
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Yeah, it got a lot of coverage last week. An expedition from some institute or college in California is sending a ship out to study it - that was the reason for the publicity. I can't remember who it is that's behind the expedition.
I was driving around in my big honk'n Ford 150, when I saw a woman take one of those plastic grocery bags and pick up shiet behind her poodle. She tied it up and threw it in the trash, I now know what we must do to clean up the plastic bag flotilla in the Pacific. But the poodle won't like it.
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I was driving around in my big honk'n Ford 150, when I saw a woman take one of those plastic grocery bags and pick up shiet behind her poodle. She tied it up and threw it in the trash, I now know what we must do to clean up the plastic bag flotilla in the Pacific. But the poodle won't like it.
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wolfbinary wrote:
My responses: I would prefer simply a cap
Would that be a dutch one?
wolfbinary wrote:
I would rather have a law that prohibited more babies than a tax, because taxes are a class war tactic or igniter. Taxes that make it easier for some to have more of something than others only benefits the rich or better off.
What is wrong with that? Although a generalisation, it is the case that those with money are better educated and have the work ethic, it is these people we want to breed, not the morons and feckless. You say it is unfair, but is it fair that I work hard to find money taken from me to be given to lazy arsed uneducated parasites who have been given 11 years of free schooling only to come out unable to read and write but who can breed and introduce another generation of parasites to follow them.
------------------------------------ "Men may make bad decisions, immoral decisions or just plain wrong decisions, but at least they make decisions. Women on the other hand..." Patrick Kielty 2006
Dalek Dave wrote:
Would that be a dutch one?
I was just saying a cap on the total number of children you could have regardless of social class or financial class. In other words, you can have 2 kids and only 2 no matter what. Can't have kids then adopt.
Dalek Dave wrote:
wolfbinary wrote: I would rather have a law that prohibited more babies than a tax, because taxes are a class war tactic or igniter. Taxes that make it easier for some to have more of something than others only benefits the rich or better off. What is wrong with that? Although a generalization, it is the case that those with money are better educated and have the work ethic, it is these people we want to breed, not the morons and feckless. You say it is unfair, but is it fair that I work hard to find money taken from me to be given to lazy arsed uneducated parasites who have been given 11 years of free schooling only to come out unable to read and write but who can breed and introduce another generation of parasites to follow them.
It may be a generalization, but Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, etc are what comes to mind. There are plenty of rich kids born with silver spoons in their mouths who aren't genetically the best. My question then becomes who or how does the best get decided? If you don't mind being told you can't breed. Are we to now get into breeding humans as a society? Even well breed dogs have genetic issues. Trading one thing for another. Work ethic doesn't have anything to do with education or having lots of money. Try slaughtering cows or watching an episode of Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe. I don't think they have any problem with working hard. What is your correlation between working and population control?
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wolfbinary wrote:
What methods of population control are ethical?
Removing financial incentives for the poor having more kids, which we pay for. By accepting that every child has a cost to society and the earth, and thus giving people the right to one child for free, a right they can sell and that others need to buy, to have more than one. Enforcing this by removal of rights in society, and not by force, for example, no right to free education, or services, or any sort of government handout, and an increase in taxes, if more than one is had without following the overall scheme.
wolfbinary wrote:
How do you motivate people to control their breeding
The same way we motivate people to breed a lot now. Money.
wolfbinary wrote:
Who gets to decide the number of people there should be?
That number is pretty much known. Less then we have now, which is achieved through one child per couple.
wolfbinary wrote:
What role does human rights play into it?
Do you mean the 'right' of a person to have 10 kids on welfare, or the right of living humans today to live in a world that can sustain them ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The same way we motivate people to breed a lot now. Money.
Not everyone is motivated by money. Then passing a tiered child tax rather than credit would work for you? 1 child = no tax 2 child = some tax, etc? So by this method the poor would be breed out of existence. Is this not class warfare? You're using the ability of someone to make money as the litmus test of their worth as a human being. Is George Bush Jr. worth more than you?
Christian Graus wrote:
Do you mean the 'right' of a person to have 10 kids on welfare, or the right of living humans today to live in a world that can sustain them ?
I mean the right of society forcefully telling other people what they can and can't do with their bodies in one of the most intimate ways.
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Thats because you are a waste of time.
And so, you waste your time on ephemera, but cannot discuss the core point ? You're self deluded.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.