JOHN PILGER: OBAMA IS A CORPORATE MARKETING CREATION
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Assuming everything he said is true. Did you do any fact checking, or is the fact that it's on youtube enough ? Of course, every leader nowadays is a marketing creation.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
fact that it's on youtube enough ?
There are times I really hate youtube. I think this is another reason why I do. Youtube is filled with junk and propaganda.
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Christian Graus wrote:
fact that it's on youtube enough ?
There are times I really hate youtube. I think this is another reason why I do. Youtube is filled with junk and propaganda.
What is false about what John Pilger said?
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What is false about what John Pilger said?
I don't know if it is or not because I can't see it because I'm at work and they have it blocked. X| So I went to Wikipedia. His fans supposedly include Chomsky who's been called anarchist, etc. I'm going to need more information, but can't right now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger#Praise_and_criticism[^] Chomsky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views[^] Just a brief quote from wikipedia on him "he describes himself as a libertarian socialist". What exactly is a libertarian socialist? Why not stay away from labels and just explain your believes in the simplest of terms.
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I don't know if it is or not because I can't see it because I'm at work and they have it blocked. X| So I went to Wikipedia. His fans supposedly include Chomsky who's been called anarchist, etc. I'm going to need more information, but can't right now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger#Praise_and_criticism[^] Chomsky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views[^] Just a brief quote from wikipedia on him "he describes himself as a libertarian socialist". What exactly is a libertarian socialist? Why not stay away from labels and just explain your believes in the simplest of terms.
I couldn't care less who one of his fans are. When a guy says something and it makes sense, you cant say its false because of some minor irrelevance.
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I don't know if it is or not because I can't see it because I'm at work and they have it blocked. X| So I went to Wikipedia. His fans supposedly include Chomsky who's been called anarchist, etc. I'm going to need more information, but can't right now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger#Praise_and_criticism[^] Chomsky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky#Political_views[^] Just a brief quote from wikipedia on him "he describes himself as a libertarian socialist". What exactly is a libertarian socialist? Why not stay away from labels and just explain your believes in the simplest of terms.
Chomsky actually is quite an inteligent fella, IMO. I don't think he's your stero-typical conspiracy theorist. For example, the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks. He does however have some views on how the world works which is basically that big business runs the show etc.
wolfbinary wrote:
libertarian socialist
I think he basically stands for the devolution of central power, and favours "power to the people", type set up, where people manage their own communities. To get rid of money, and let people just work at things they enjoy - kind of like Star Trek (:~ if you like that sort of thing). I don't think you can take everything he says as gospel, but some of his views and opinions do get you thinking, and make you look at things objectively. For example, the war in Iraq/Afghanistan: it all depends on which side of the fence you sit - one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter and all that. He argues that all press coverage of things like that (especially in the US) are all from one perspective. Although I know he has pissed a lot of people off, and some hate him more than Vista! Meh, but it's all about opinions. :-D
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
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Chomsky actually is quite an inteligent fella, IMO. I don't think he's your stero-typical conspiracy theorist. For example, the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks. He does however have some views on how the world works which is basically that big business runs the show etc.
wolfbinary wrote:
libertarian socialist
I think he basically stands for the devolution of central power, and favours "power to the people", type set up, where people manage their own communities. To get rid of money, and let people just work at things they enjoy - kind of like Star Trek (:~ if you like that sort of thing). I don't think you can take everything he says as gospel, but some of his views and opinions do get you thinking, and make you look at things objectively. For example, the war in Iraq/Afghanistan: it all depends on which side of the fence you sit - one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter and all that. He argues that all press coverage of things like that (especially in the US) are all from one perspective. Although I know he has pissed a lot of people off, and some hate him more than Vista! Meh, but it's all about opinions. :-D
"...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"
1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks.
Al Qaeda was (or is) a CIA asset. Everybody knows that. It was a false-flag operation, swine flu is the next stage.
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Again, I already did my fact checking. I'd appreciate it if you all went through the effort to do your own. I spend a lot of time and effort on my research regardless of the subject being researched. I can give you compilations but I will not backtrack through weeks and months worth of research to try to educate you. I'm not a book writer, and I'm not a document archive, m'kay? :^)
you googled at random and believed everything you read when you searched for terms that would only bring up conspiracy sites. Brilliant. Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
the last time I checked he didn't believe in a conspiracy behind the twin towers attacks.
Al Qaeda was (or is) a CIA asset. Everybody knows that. It was a false-flag operation, swine flu is the next stage.
Everybody knows that, amongst your retarded conspiracy circles ? ROTFL !!!!
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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you googled at random and believed everything you read when you searched for terms that would only bring up conspiracy sites. Brilliant. Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
I watched part of the 11th Hour. All it was about is how people are a like an infection on the earth and how we must all die off to save the environment, it also demonized America. It was a bunch of total bullshit.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Did you watch the youtube videos I referred you to ?
I watched part of the 11th Hour. All it was about is how people are a like an infection on the earth and how we must all die off to save the environment, it also demonized America. It was a bunch of total bullshit.
ROTFL !!! Well, it sounds like it's about on par with the video you gave me to watch then. Read this[^]. Short version, there's about an acre of arable land on earth, per person. Imagine now if you could sustain your lifestyle, growing meat, fruit, veg, fabrics, etc, all for yourself, on an acre of land. As China and India try to achieve the same lifestyle you enjoy, that's what needs to be possible, for that lifestyle to exist for you, and for them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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ROTFL !!! Well, it sounds like it's about on par with the video you gave me to watch then. Read this[^]. Short version, there's about an acre of arable land on earth, per person. Imagine now if you could sustain your lifestyle, growing meat, fruit, veg, fabrics, etc, all for yourself, on an acre of land. As China and India try to achieve the same lifestyle you enjoy, that's what needs to be possible, for that lifestyle to exist for you, and for them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
The solution to the over population thing is not governmental controls, but cause and effect. When the people who don't own land (city people) start to pay large amounts of money for their resources (supply and demand), they won't be able to go on like they do any longer. The land owners however, will be able to sustain themselves.
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The solution to the over population thing is not governmental controls, but cause and effect. When the people who don't own land (city people) start to pay large amounts of money for their resources (supply and demand), they won't be able to go on like they do any longer. The land owners however, will be able to sustain themselves.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
When the people who don't own land (city people) start to pay large amounts of money for their resources (supply and demand), they won't be able to go on like they do any longer.
So, what do you think they will do, in response to your having food, and them only having guns ?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
When the people who don't own land (city people) start to pay large amounts of money for their resources (supply and demand), they won't be able to go on like they do any longer.
So, what do you think they will do, in response to your having food, and them only having guns ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Well first off it won't be sudden, as you can imagine, its a long process that takes many years. Second they can eat led and drop dead if they want it. America has enough land to support many many more people anyways, so your sick end of the world fantacies are for your own continent. You got the nerve to call me crazy for bringing light to the currupt banking system and governments, but you have this sick fantacey about people either submitting to total tyranny or dying in pure caos.
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Well first off it won't be sudden, as you can imagine, its a long process that takes many years. Second they can eat led and drop dead if they want it. America has enough land to support many many more people anyways, so your sick end of the world fantacies are for your own continent. You got the nerve to call me crazy for bringing light to the currupt banking system and governments, but you have this sick fantacey about people either submitting to total tyranny or dying in pure caos.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
America has enough land to support many many more people anyways, so your sick end of the world fantacies are for your own continent.
Actually, I'm in a much better position than you are. A lot of your land has been overused and relies on a supply of petro-chemical based fertilisers and mechanised tractors to produce food. you also have a lot more people than we do, and a lot more trouble with water. Just because I'm pointing out what's true, doesn't mean it's my fantasy
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You got the nerve to call me crazy for bringing light to the currupt banking system and governments,
Well, I call you crazy for believing in crap, yes.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
but you have this sick fantacey about people either submitting to total tyranny or dying in pure caos.
I'm unsure if this is a good place to point out that I'm education and can spell, if I should point out that just because something is true does not make it my fantasy, or to point out that either way, I've never advocated anyone living under tyranny. This is so retarded, I can't choose which option to use in response.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
America has enough land to support many many more people anyways, so your sick end of the world fantacies are for your own continent.
Actually, I'm in a much better position than you are. A lot of your land has been overused and relies on a supply of petro-chemical based fertilisers and mechanised tractors to produce food. you also have a lot more people than we do, and a lot more trouble with water. Just because I'm pointing out what's true, doesn't mean it's my fantasy
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You got the nerve to call me crazy for bringing light to the currupt banking system and governments,
Well, I call you crazy for believing in crap, yes.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
but you have this sick fantacey about people either submitting to total tyranny or dying in pure caos.
I'm unsure if this is a good place to point out that I'm education and can spell, if I should point out that just because something is true does not make it my fantasy, or to point out that either way, I've never advocated anyone living under tyranny. This is so retarded, I can't choose which option to use in response.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Actually, I'm in a much better position than you are. A lot of your land has been overused
We are the breadbasket of the world, we export most of our food to helpless little peon nations like britain. I'm sorry, but you have nothing supporting your wild doomsday theories.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Actually, I'm in a much better position than you are. A lot of your land has been overused
We are the breadbasket of the world, we export most of our food to helpless little peon nations like britain. I'm sorry, but you have nothing supporting your wild doomsday theories.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We are the breadbasket of the world, we export most of our food to helpless little peon nations like britain.
http://www.historylink101.com/lessons/farm-city/food_production.htm[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm sorry, but you have nothing supporting your wild doomsday theories.
What's amusing is that you post retarded videos to support yours, I post pages of facts and you dismiss them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We are the breadbasket of the world, we export most of our food to helpless little peon nations like britain.
http://www.historylink101.com/lessons/farm-city/food_production.htm[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I'm sorry, but you have nothing supporting your wild doomsday theories.
What's amusing is that you post retarded videos to support yours, I post pages of facts and you dismiss them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
LMAO!!! What a pathetic display of ignorance. Anyone can go online these days and make a website. Your insane doomsday theories of the sky turning red with black clouds, and people out protesting demanding the government to take over and feed them is a dismal little fantasy of a sick mind.
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LMAO!!! What a pathetic display of ignorance. Anyone can go online these days and make a website. Your insane doomsday theories of the sky turning red with black clouds, and people out protesting demanding the government to take over and feed them is a dismal little fantasy of a sick mind.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
LMAO!!! What a pathetic display of ignorance. Anyone can go online these days and make a website.
OK, how come this doesn't apply to the crap you post ? The stats I found show that the US makes it's share of food, but is hardly the 'breadbasket' of the world. I knew this to be true before I searched, but still, what stats, as opposed to masturbatory fantasies, do you have to prove me wrong ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and people out protesting demanding the government to take over and feed them
Amusing, I've never remotely suggested this. You moron.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
LMAO!!! What a pathetic display of ignorance. Anyone can go online these days and make a website.
OK, how come this doesn't apply to the crap you post ? The stats I found show that the US makes it's share of food, but is hardly the 'breadbasket' of the world. I knew this to be true before I searched, but still, what stats, as opposed to masturbatory fantasies, do you have to prove me wrong ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and people out protesting demanding the government to take over and feed them
Amusing, I've never remotely suggested this. You moron.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
OK, how come this doesn't apply to the crap you post ?
Because I post factual information relevant to the real world.
Christian Graus wrote:
The shit I found
FIFY
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Christian Graus wrote:
OK, how come this doesn't apply to the crap you post ?
Because I post factual information relevant to the real world.
Christian Graus wrote:
The shit I found
FIFY
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Because I post factual information relevant to the real world.
ROTFL. I do enjoy my little trips into the cavernous emptiness of your fragile, eggshell mind.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.