Wow, I found a video that will blow your mind
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As a psychologist, you must surely know that when a man kills his family and then commits suicide, there is more than "I have failed as a man" at the root of it.
Bob Emmett I solemnly declare that I do not wish the USA to be more like Britain, Canada, or Oz.
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See, when I started making good money, I was careful to never live beyond the means I'd have if I lost my job. Sure, we got a nice house, took nice holidays, but I paid cash. I saved for things, I didn't go into tons of debt. Some people are just stupid, that isn't the fault of anyone but the person involved. I stopped my kids watching commercial TV because I didn't think they were ready to understand what advertising is. Everyone who invests in the stock market, which means everyone with a job, wants companies to advertise and make money. That's how it is. The main reason we will never have any attempt to control population growth, is because population growth is what makes the market grow, and everyone wants the market to grow, so they have retirement money. Advertising exists because we live in a free market, capitalistic society. The freedom you love to blather about, is the freedom to make goods and advertise them. The only thing that could control it, is the government that you keep hoping to limit. This is therefore another example of you jumping from one paranoid theory to another, even tho they basically contradict what you claim to be your beliefs. This is a pile of ignorant BS. It's certainly not 'completely factual', it's almost entirely opinion. None of the things it talks about, affect intelligent people, only morons. Anyone with any sort of sense, lives within their means and understands what advertising is, and learns to ignore it.
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Completely factual, like the fact that you're working, right?
Hey Zep! How've you been man? Been a while since you've posted here. Everything good I hope and you were only busy with work :)
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See, when I started making good money, I was careful to never live beyond the means I'd have if I lost my job. Sure, we got a nice house, took nice holidays, but I paid cash. I saved for things, I didn't go into tons of debt. Some people are just stupid, that isn't the fault of anyone but the person involved. I stopped my kids watching commercial TV because I didn't think they were ready to understand what advertising is. Everyone who invests in the stock market, which means everyone with a job, wants companies to advertise and make money. That's how it is. The main reason we will never have any attempt to control population growth, is because population growth is what makes the market grow, and everyone wants the market to grow, so they have retirement money. Advertising exists because we live in a free market, capitalistic society. The freedom you love to blather about, is the freedom to make goods and advertise them. The only thing that could control it, is the government that you keep hoping to limit. This is therefore another example of you jumping from one paranoid theory to another, even tho they basically contradict what you claim to be your beliefs. This is a pile of ignorant BS. It's certainly not 'completely factual', it's almost entirely opinion. None of the things it talks about, affect intelligent people, only morons. Anyone with any sort of sense, lives within their means and understands what advertising is, and learns to ignore it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You are a debt slave regardless if you have personal debt to pay or not. Your government and central bank plays a key role at putting everybody, including your daughter and grandchildren, into debt before they are ever born. Being constantly bombarded with flashing advertisements from a very early age to death will fuck your head up. Understand? I'm sure you do because you said you don't let your kid watch commercial TV
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Bah. Give it a rest you white trash moron. You're acting just like any damn communist would, meaning: You want what you don't deserve. You're a low life asshole that don't want to contribute anything to society by working hard. You just hide behind a thin facade of "We need to save humanity before it's too late!". Stop posting your crap on a site that's run and read by intelligent people. You're not impressing anyone here. Get a fucking job you loser, and be happy with getting what you deserve.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Completely factual, like the fact that you're working, right?
The fact is that he's a fucking loser that wants to piggy back on the hard work of others.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Bah. Give it a rest you white trash moron. You're acting just like any damn communist would, meaning: You want what you don't deserve. You're a low life asshole that don't want to contribute anything to society by working hard. You just hide behind a thin facade of "We need to save humanity before it's too late!". Stop posting your crap on a site that's run and read by intelligent people. You're not impressing anyone here. Get a fucking job you loser, and be happy with getting what you deserve.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
This must be a really hard hitting video for you to get this angry. You are feeling like that guy in the beginning of the video. You must have rabies to be foaming at the mouth like you are. Call 911 immediately before you do something bad.
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The fact is that he's a fucking loser that wants to piggy back on the hard work of others.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
I've worked hard most of my adult life. I come in no less than 5 minutes early every shift with a good attitude and a smile and I get my job done. I've never collected unemployment or welfare checks, the most I have ever gotten was food ONLY ONCE. Go climb back in your hole ans stay there.
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¡370H55V
------------------------------------ "I'm going to walk around a field dangling my keys on a bit of string until I hear whistling noises. " Steve Harris 2009
Took a little while to work out, but :laugh:
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You are the asshole.
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Hey Zep! How've you been man? Been a while since you've posted here. Everything good I hope and you were only busy with work :)
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Yeah, everything is fine. I moved out of France, got a new job and bought a farm. So I've been a little busy with all that. Not sure what to do with the stables, but the apple, pear, plum, quince and medlars produce more fruit than I can eat.
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You are a debt slave regardless if you have personal debt to pay or not. Your government and central bank plays a key role at putting everybody, including your daughter and grandchildren, into debt before they are ever born. Being constantly bombarded with flashing advertisements from a very early age to death will fuck your head up. Understand? I'm sure you do because you said you don't let your kid watch commercial TV
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are a debt slave regardless if you have personal debt to pay or not.
Rubbish.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. Your government and central bank plays a key role at putting everybody, including your daughter and grandchildren, into debt before they are ever born.
Our country may be in debt, and that may affect the country as a whole, but that really doesn't affect my day to day life. You're spinning a tangled web of crap, to try to make it look like you can talk about the Fed convincingly. we already proved you can't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Being constantly bombarded with flashing advertisements from a very early age to death will f*** your head up.
Only if you're weak minded. Like I said, I cut my kids off from it because they were too young, but once they were old enough, I explained to them what advertising is, and now they watch it, and are fine. No-one told me, I worked it out for myself, and I'm fine. Perhaps your head was already in trouble before you saw any ads ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Understand? I'm sure you do because you said you don't let your kid watch commercial TV
They do now. My point was that parents who are not sad caricatures, will educate their kids, and will be educated themselves. Just like, anyone who gets into so much debt that they feel they need to shoot themselves for losing their job, has made their own bed. I could lose my job tomorrow, and while my day to day lifestyle would have to adjust, I have NO debts in my life. I pay off my credit card every month, I never owe more than $10,000 on it, and that would be extreme, if I've had to book travel, etc. I own my house and my cars. We could live in the best area of hobart, in a huge house. I could easily afford that, today. I won't do it, because if I lost my job, we'd lose the lot. That's called managing your money, and not living outside your means. I have enough in my immediate bank account that we could eat and pay bills for two years, if we had to. Again, people make choices, they choose to live on the edge, or choose to use money as a tool to create security, and not be driven by mere possessions.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are a debt slave regardless if you have personal debt to pay or not.
Rubbish.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. Your government and central bank plays a key role at putting everybody, including your daughter and grandchildren, into debt before they are ever born.
Our country may be in debt, and that may affect the country as a whole, but that really doesn't affect my day to day life. You're spinning a tangled web of crap, to try to make it look like you can talk about the Fed convincingly. we already proved you can't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Being constantly bombarded with flashing advertisements from a very early age to death will f*** your head up.
Only if you're weak minded. Like I said, I cut my kids off from it because they were too young, but once they were old enough, I explained to them what advertising is, and now they watch it, and are fine. No-one told me, I worked it out for myself, and I'm fine. Perhaps your head was already in trouble before you saw any ads ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Understand? I'm sure you do because you said you don't let your kid watch commercial TV
They do now. My point was that parents who are not sad caricatures, will educate their kids, and will be educated themselves. Just like, anyone who gets into so much debt that they feel they need to shoot themselves for losing their job, has made their own bed. I could lose my job tomorrow, and while my day to day lifestyle would have to adjust, I have NO debts in my life. I pay off my credit card every month, I never owe more than $10,000 on it, and that would be extreme, if I've had to book travel, etc. I own my house and my cars. We could live in the best area of hobart, in a huge house. I could easily afford that, today. I won't do it, because if I lost my job, we'd lose the lot. That's called managing your money, and not living outside your means. I have enough in my immediate bank account that we could eat and pay bills for two years, if we had to. Again, people make choices, they choose to live on the edge, or choose to use money as a tool to create security, and not be driven by mere possessions.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I I I I, me me me me, mine mine mine mine, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, I'm superior to the masses, I'm seething with insolence towards EVERYBODY ...
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Yeah, everything is fine. I moved out of France, got a new job and bought a farm. So I've been a little busy with all that. Not sure what to do with the stables, but the apple, pear, plum, quince and medlars produce more fruit than I can eat.
73Zeppelin wrote: Yeah, everything is fine Good to hear that :) 73Zeppelin wrote: I moved out of France France?! I thought you were in Switzerland! Well, Europe is a nice place... 73Zeppelin wrote: got a new job and bought a farm Excellent, so we'll be seeing articles on cow milking algorithms soon? ;p 73Zeppelin wrote: Not sure what to do with the stables Cows and Horses. Or you can give CSS a room to rent.... 73Zeppelin wrote: but the apple, pear, plum, quince and medlars produce more fruit than I can eat. Do what my mom does (dad has a ranch, apples, olives, pears, figs, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cactus\_pear">Cactus Pears</a>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cactus\_pear" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>] and grapes with a few odd trees here and there as well), she makes tons and tons of jam. Lasts the whole year and she gives away quite a bit too...
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Christian Graus wrote:
I I I I, me me me me, mine mine mine mine, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, I'm superior to the masses, I'm seething with insolence towards EVERYBODY ...
That's hilarious. How quickly we reach the point where you don't address my points, and try to insult me to cover up for your inadequacies. Here's another thought. No-one is forcing anyone to watch TV. i watch close to none, myself. So, again, everything you're talking about, is all about people making poor choices and then trying to blame others for it. You've not addressed ONE point I've raised in this discussion. As usual.
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That's hilarious. How quickly we reach the point where you don't address my points, and try to insult me to cover up for your inadequacies. Here's another thought. No-one is forcing anyone to watch TV. i watch close to none, myself. So, again, everything you're talking about, is all about people making poor choices and then trying to blame others for it. You've not addressed ONE point I've raised in this discussion. As usual.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
No-one is forcing anyone to watch TV.
TV has become an escape from the hard realities of life, an imaginary world of endless entertainment. It is a cultural thing that is nearly impossible to avoid, especially when you are a little kid and your parents don't know any better. its not the kids fault like you say it is. The kids do not deserve it like you say they do. Most people are good, hard working, well meaning people who get caught up in the system. To you however, they are nothing but scum that need to be culled. You are a sick demented creature.
Christian Graus wrote:
i watch close to none, myself.
Nobody gives a fuck about you.
Christian Graus wrote:
is all about people making poor choices and then trying to blame others for it
With this logic, drug dealers are in the right because the users keep buying. Use that worthless brain of yours. Instead of looking at those in power who are making all the decisions, feeding off of the public; if there is ever a problem, blame all the world's problems on the less fortunate, then cull them. That is your mindset.
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Christian Graus wrote:
No-one is forcing anyone to watch TV.
TV has become an escape from the hard realities of life, an imaginary world of endless entertainment. It is a cultural thing that is nearly impossible to avoid, especially when you are a little kid and your parents don't know any better. its not the kids fault like you say it is. The kids do not deserve it like you say they do. Most people are good, hard working, well meaning people who get caught up in the system. To you however, they are nothing but scum that need to be culled. You are a sick demented creature.
Christian Graus wrote:
i watch close to none, myself.
Nobody gives a fuck about you.
Christian Graus wrote:
is all about people making poor choices and then trying to blame others for it
With this logic, drug dealers are in the right because the users keep buying. Use that worthless brain of yours. Instead of looking at those in power who are making all the decisions, feeding off of the public; if there is ever a problem, blame all the world's problems on the less fortunate, then cull them. That is your mindset.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
TV has become an escape from the hard realities of life, an imaginary world of endless entertainment.
Life is not that hard. Sure, it's not always easy, but it's not like it's terrible. Life is great.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a cultural thing that is nearly impossible to avoid, especially when you are a little kid and your parents don't know any better
Yes, I would agree with that. It was when I taught myself to program that I stopped watching TV, and I realised that most people don't question it, they just watch it ALL the time.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
its not the kids fault like you say it is. The kids do not deserve it like you say they do
I'm sorry, but everyone's choices are their responsibility. In Nuremberg, the 'everyone else was doing it' defense was always rejected. Everyone makes their own choices. If you watch a lot of TV or not, basic math should come into play when you decide what to buy, how much to borrow, etc. The point is, people's debt is THEIR fault, no-one elses.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Most people are good, hard working, well meaning people who get caught up in the system.
Yes, I agree with this, too. What is the solution ? Telling people to blame big corporations, and keep digging a hole, or telling them to take personal responsibility and control their finances ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
To you however, they are nothing but scum that need to be culled. You are a sick demented creature.
*yawn* - you always start with these lies when the discussion gets beyond your control.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
With this logic, drug dealers are in the right because the users keep buying.
Not at all. However, it does beg the question of why we don't legalise drugs. A drug is always considered harmful, credit is not. It's a different thing.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Instead of looking at those in power who are making all the decisions, feeding off of the public; if there is ever a problem, blame all the world's problems on the less fortunate, then cull them. That is your mindset.
No, my mindset is to not allow a victim mentality to stop peo
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
TV has become an escape from the hard realities of life, an imaginary world of endless entertainment.
Life is not that hard. Sure, it's not always easy, but it's not like it's terrible. Life is great.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is a cultural thing that is nearly impossible to avoid, especially when you are a little kid and your parents don't know any better
Yes, I would agree with that. It was when I taught myself to program that I stopped watching TV, and I realised that most people don't question it, they just watch it ALL the time.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
its not the kids fault like you say it is. The kids do not deserve it like you say they do
I'm sorry, but everyone's choices are their responsibility. In Nuremberg, the 'everyone else was doing it' defense was always rejected. Everyone makes their own choices. If you watch a lot of TV or not, basic math should come into play when you decide what to buy, how much to borrow, etc. The point is, people's debt is THEIR fault, no-one elses.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Most people are good, hard working, well meaning people who get caught up in the system.
Yes, I agree with this, too. What is the solution ? Telling people to blame big corporations, and keep digging a hole, or telling them to take personal responsibility and control their finances ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
To you however, they are nothing but scum that need to be culled. You are a sick demented creature.
*yawn* - you always start with these lies when the discussion gets beyond your control.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
With this logic, drug dealers are in the right because the users keep buying.
Not at all. However, it does beg the question of why we don't legalise drugs. A drug is always considered harmful, credit is not. It's a different thing.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Instead of looking at those in power who are making all the decisions, feeding off of the public; if there is ever a problem, blame all the world's problems on the less fortunate, then cull them. That is your mindset.
No, my mindset is to not allow a victim mentality to stop peo
Christian Graus wrote:
Life is not that hard.
Put yourself in someone else's shoes for once and smash your grandiose delusions.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'm sorry, but everyone's choices are their responsibility.
We are talking about kids here, and you are taking huge pieces out of the puzzle, such as human nature.
Christian Graus wrote:
Telling people to blame big corporations, and keep digging a hole, or telling them to take personal responsibility and control their finances ?
Telling people to not let others take advantage of them, get informed, and stop allowing themselves to be manipulated.
Christian Graus wrote:
credit is not.
It is when it causes inflation.
Christian Graus wrote:
If you borrow money, you have to pay it back.
You owe money to the central banks and foreign entities, you have to pay, and so does your daughter. Think about the big picture, it effects the quality of life for everyone, including you. If society around you is crumbling, you still ave to live in it.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Life is not that hard.
Put yourself in someone else's shoes for once and smash your grandiose delusions.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'm sorry, but everyone's choices are their responsibility.
We are talking about kids here, and you are taking huge pieces out of the puzzle, such as human nature.
Christian Graus wrote:
Telling people to blame big corporations, and keep digging a hole, or telling them to take personal responsibility and control their finances ?
Telling people to not let others take advantage of them, get informed, and stop allowing themselves to be manipulated.
Christian Graus wrote:
credit is not.
It is when it causes inflation.
Christian Graus wrote:
If you borrow money, you have to pay it back.
You owe money to the central banks and foreign entities, you have to pay, and so does your daughter. Think about the big picture, it effects the quality of life for everyone, including you. If society around you is crumbling, you still ave to live in it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Put yourself in someone else's shoes for once and smash your grandiose delusions.
You didn't say 'some people's life is hard'. That is true. But, not people who live in the US and have lots of debt. That's not hard. Not having enough to eat, or being persecuted for your beliefs, to the point of death, THOSE things make life hard.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We are talking about kids here,
How are we ? Kids watch TV, but do they borrow money or have debt ? That video was drivel, the way it said the schools are controlling people. Society has always been about conforming, to some degree. So what ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and you are taking huge pieces out of the puzzle, such as human nature.
Sure - it's human nature to blame others for your shortcomings. But, that doesn't make it right, and it sure as hell doesn't help.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Telling people to not let others take advantage of them, get informed, and stop allowing themselves to be manipulated.
Well, that's 50% what I said, and 50% drivel.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is when it causes inflation.
Well, fair enough. But, inflation only affects what I can and cannot buy. If I don't define my happiness in those terms, it's a minor inconvenience, that's all.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You owe money to the central banks and foreign entities, you have to pay, and so does your daughter.
That's not really true. We have to pay taxes. You think they'd abolish taxes if the state was not in debt ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Think about the big picture, it effects the quality of life for everyone, including you. If society around you is crumbling, you still ave to live in it.
Yes, but no matter what happens, I am in as good a position as I could be in, precisely because I avoid debt where-ever I can. Which was my only point - the debts people have are their fault and their responsibility.
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