Paranoia and Plain Dumb
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The thing is though, Cristain, you explicitly stated numerous times that you believe that there is a need for population controls. You have even suggested Maoist China's model.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The thing is though, Cristain, you explicitly stated numerous times that you believe that there is a need for population controls.
Yes, and I understand why it is that you're not smart enough to understand what I said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The thing is though, Cristain, you explicitly stated numerous times that you believe that there is a need for population controls.
Yes, and I understand why it is that you're not smart enough to understand what I said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, and I understand why it is that you're not smart enough to understand what I said.
Oh... Well why don't you explain it to me then?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, and I understand why it is that you're not smart enough to understand what I said.
Oh... Well why don't you explain it to me then?
AGAIN ? Why would I bother trying again ? The short version is, I have NEVER suggested any sort of scheme like what China has/had. I HAVE stated that the world is overpopulated and that a quote of one child per couple is the only thing, short of a war, that will allow our species to not fall into disarray, starvation, and probably anarchy. I have also said that such a system is unlikely to ever be workable, but if it were to exist, I'd favour economic pressures to make couples conform, not ever for anyone to be forced to have an abortion ( that's the biggest lie you tell about me, because I absolutely oppose it on a personal level as well as having never suggested it ).
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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AGAIN ? Why would I bother trying again ? The short version is, I have NEVER suggested any sort of scheme like what China has/had. I HAVE stated that the world is overpopulated and that a quote of one child per couple is the only thing, short of a war, that will allow our species to not fall into disarray, starvation, and probably anarchy. I have also said that such a system is unlikely to ever be workable, but if it were to exist, I'd favour economic pressures to make couples conform, not ever for anyone to be forced to have an abortion ( that's the biggest lie you tell about me, because I absolutely oppose it on a personal level as well as having never suggested it ).
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The short version is, I have NEVER suggested any sort of scheme like what China has/had.
Christian Graus wrote:
I HAVE stated that the world is overpopulated and that a quote of one child per couple is the only thing
This is doublethink. The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'd favour economic pressures to make couples conform
So you want to force the parents to fork over their hard earned assets that they would normally use to take care of the child and improve their quality of life. I get it, force them into poverty. Genius. You are an authoritarian eugenicist.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The short version is, I have NEVER suggested any sort of scheme like what China has/had.
Christian Graus wrote:
I HAVE stated that the world is overpopulated and that a quote of one child per couple is the only thing
This is doublethink. The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.
Christian Graus wrote:
I'd favour economic pressures to make couples conform
So you want to force the parents to fork over their hard earned assets that they would normally use to take care of the child and improve their quality of life. I get it, force them into poverty. Genius. You are an authoritarian eugenicist.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is doublethink.
No, it's not. It's proof you're a moron. A quota of one child per couple is PART of what China did. In China, forced abortions existed. I've always spoken against that. You're just incapable of considering nuance, it's all black and white for you, because it's easier that way.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to force the parents to fork over their hard earned assets that they would normally use to take care of the child and improve their quality of life.
No, not quite. I've explained my idea in the past. And I have every time said that I don't see it as enforceable, just that I see it is as the only natural hope for mankind to limit our population.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are an authoritarian eugenicist.
You're still an idiot for thinking so.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is doublethink.
No, it's not. It's proof you're a moron. A quota of one child per couple is PART of what China did. In China, forced abortions existed. I've always spoken against that. You're just incapable of considering nuance, it's all black and white for you, because it's easier that way.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to force the parents to fork over their hard earned assets that they would normally use to take care of the child and improve their quality of life.
No, not quite. I've explained my idea in the past. And I have every time said that I don't see it as enforceable, just that I see it is as the only natural hope for mankind to limit our population.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You are an authoritarian eugenicist.
You're still an idiot for thinking so.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
So you want an enforced one child policy and severe penalties for babies. You are a sicko.
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So you want an enforced one child policy and severe penalties for babies. You are a sicko.
See what I mean ? You are too stupid to understand what I'm saying, you were before, and you are now. I actually clarified that I don't want to charge anyone a 'penalty for babies'. I just didn't explain how I thought it may work, b/c I already knew we were headed for this.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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See what I mean ? You are too stupid to understand what I'm saying, you were before, and you are now. I actually clarified that I don't want to charge anyone a 'penalty for babies'. I just didn't explain how I thought it may work, b/c I already knew we were headed for this.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
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So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
You seriously need professional help... go get some... please...
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
You seriously need professional help... go get some... please...
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime. John P. Holdren is Uh'boom'buh's science and technology czar.
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So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents.
I see now that perhaps the circles you move within are not all nutjobs. Perhaps you misrepresent them the same way you do me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth
Wow - the possibility of kids being moved from their parents does not even remotely exist in anything I have ever said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime. John P. Holdren is Uh'boom'buh's science and technology czar.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime.
And on what basis do you continue to assume that I agree with him, despite my saying otherwise ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents. I get it. You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth. You are John P. Holdren would make a good couple.
You seriously need professional help... go get some... please...
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
I actually offered once to pay for him to go, but he still refused.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So you want to let a small group of powerful people snatch people's children and bankrupt the parents.
I see now that perhaps the circles you move within are not all nutjobs. Perhaps you misrepresent them the same way you do me.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You want to use the money that they stole from the parents to sterilize the children and fund the child snatching operations and the child dormitories that the children will be forced to live in from birth
Wow - the possibility of kids being moved from their parents does not even remotely exist in anything I have ever said.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
The more I read his replies to your posts, the more I'm convinced that he is an utter blithering idiot that is suffering from serious delusions of grandeur of having a double digit IQ. I am completely amazed at how he purposefully rewords everything to complete support his point of view which in itself is built on some of the shakiest foundations ever created for any argument in the history of debating. If he ever decides to take you up your offer to pay for his much needed psychiatric help, I'll split the bill with you.
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I bet you believe people should have to buy a permit from the government to post online.
I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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I bet you believe people should have to buy a permit from the government to post online.
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The more I read his replies to your posts, the more I'm convinced that he is an utter blithering idiot that is suffering from serious delusions of grandeur of having a double digit IQ. I am completely amazed at how he purposefully rewords everything to complete support his point of view which in itself is built on some of the shakiest foundations ever created for any argument in the history of debating. If he ever decides to take you up your offer to pay for his much needed psychiatric help, I'll split the bill with you.
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On the subject of Christian being an authoritarian, abortion and sterilisation loving, eugenicist, he is merely winding Christian up. It is the equivalent of an eight year old's, "I know you are, but what am I?". I have suggested to Christian that he does not take the bait, but it appears to be a point of honour with him to deny that he is what he so obviously is not.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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So you want an enforced one child policy and severe penalties for babies. You are a sicko.
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Hey, I don't make up this stuff. Read John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Envirnment" He calls for mass sterilization and strict population controls managed by a planetary regime. John P. Holdren is Uh'boom'buh's science and technology czar.
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I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
Bob Emmett wrote:
I bet you cannot explain why the majority of the brainwashed and 'subverted generations' of Russians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Hungarians, et al, were so keen to renounce Soviet ideology and adopt capitalism.
They woke up.