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  • C ColinDavies

    Linux has got it's place. "I'll let you work out where" :-) But yeah, I find some of them to be like religious fanatics, who are blind to all but their own belief. Regardz Colin J Davies

    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

    You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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    Oh my fucking god, you actually read the EULA!

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      My neighbor is a linux user, now I have nothing against linux users or linux. However when there only reason for linux being better is "Windows sucks" or "Microsoft sucks" it gets really damn annoying. He doesn't really have anything to back up his "Microsoft sucks" argument. I also find it ironic that he seems to have an "infinite knowledge" (or so he thinks) of how Windows works even though he hasn't by his own admission used Windows since the early days of Windows 98. He also tried convincing me that the XP EULA said that gave Microsoft unrestricted access to your computer even on the hardware level :wtf:, which by the way isn't in there. In fact I quoted several sections of the EULA and he didn't recognize any of it and even accuesed me of lying about it. Does anyone else have to put up with this type of people on a regular basis? -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
      "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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      Shog9 0
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      That used to be me. Keep in mind, i had plenty of time to build of a healthy dislike of everything MS. By the time i started using Linux, i was so disgusted with Microsoft's track record and policies, *anything* was better, even when it wasn't. And it usually was. When i finally got Win2k, my opinion softened, but until i started getting paid to do Win32 dev, i still didn't give a shit what MS did, it was crap. It took a while for me to realize that it doesn't pay to be a zealot for *any* cause, or at least any OS. Sadly, though, now that i'm able to accept and deal with the current state of things, my excitement for the new and incredible, my zeal for learning and going beyond what is accepted and normal... is gone. *sigh* i hope i don't end up working for Rational... :~

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      And on the pedestal, these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains.

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        That used to be me. Keep in mind, i had plenty of time to build of a healthy dislike of everything MS. By the time i started using Linux, i was so disgusted with Microsoft's track record and policies, *anything* was better, even when it wasn't. And it usually was. When i finally got Win2k, my opinion softened, but until i started getting paid to do Win32 dev, i still didn't give a shit what MS did, it was crap. It took a while for me to realize that it doesn't pay to be a zealot for *any* cause, or at least any OS. Sadly, though, now that i'm able to accept and deal with the current state of things, my excitement for the new and incredible, my zeal for learning and going beyond what is accepted and normal... is gone. *sigh* i hope i don't end up working for Rational... :~

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        And on the pedestal, these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings, Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains.

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        Sellout! You'll never reach Linux heaven now. :-D -- Please state the nature of your medical emergency.

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          Sellout! You'll never reach Linux heaven now. :-D -- Please state the nature of your medical emergency.

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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Sellout! You'll never reach Linux heaven now. Neither you ... you FreeBSD freak ;P Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Sellout! You'll never reach Linux heaven now. Neither you ... you FreeBSD freak ;P Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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            Joao Vaz wrote: Neither you ... you FreeBSD freak It's FreeBSD daemon to you. :-D -- Please state the nature of your medical emergency.

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              Joao Vaz wrote: Neither you ... you FreeBSD freak It's FreeBSD daemon to you. :-D -- Please state the nature of your medical emergency.

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              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: It's FreeBSD daemon to you. Nasty, nasty :-D Cheers,Joao Vaz And if your dream is to care for your family, to put food on the table, to provide them with an education and a good home, then maybe suffering through an endless, pointless, boring job will seem to have purpose. And you will realize how even a rock can change the world, simply by remaining obstinately stationary.-Shog9

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              • M Matt Newman

                My neighbor is a linux user, now I have nothing against linux users or linux. However when there only reason for linux being better is "Windows sucks" or "Microsoft sucks" it gets really damn annoying. He doesn't really have anything to back up his "Microsoft sucks" argument. I also find it ironic that he seems to have an "infinite knowledge" (or so he thinks) of how Windows works even though he hasn't by his own admission used Windows since the early days of Windows 98. He also tried convincing me that the XP EULA said that gave Microsoft unrestricted access to your computer even on the hardware level :wtf:, which by the way isn't in there. In fact I quoted several sections of the EULA and he didn't recognize any of it and even accuesed me of lying about it. Does anyone else have to put up with this type of people on a regular basis? -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
                "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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                Anyone who's a zealot for anything has something to learn. Linus is not god, and neither is Bill. In fact there is no god, no black and white -- only shades of grey.

                as long as I live it will be fine / there's nothing what I can do /
                the world will die and so do I / so why should I take care
                'Take Care' Funker Vogt

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                • M Matt Newman

                  My neighbor is a linux user, now I have nothing against linux users or linux. However when there only reason for linux being better is "Windows sucks" or "Microsoft sucks" it gets really damn annoying. He doesn't really have anything to back up his "Microsoft sucks" argument. I also find it ironic that he seems to have an "infinite knowledge" (or so he thinks) of how Windows works even though he hasn't by his own admission used Windows since the early days of Windows 98. He also tried convincing me that the XP EULA said that gave Microsoft unrestricted access to your computer even on the hardware level :wtf:, which by the way isn't in there. In fact I quoted several sections of the EULA and he didn't recognize any of it and even accuesed me of lying about it. Does anyone else have to put up with this type of people on a regular basis? -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
                  "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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                  Paul Riley
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                  I know people who work with Windows, use Windows at home, know Windows intimately and still the conspiracy theories go on (and on, and on, and on). My personal favourite: "But Windows XP sends a hidden signal to Microsoft's server every time you do a search on your own harddrive. Pretty disturbing huh?" Well, no, not really. If you wanted to test for a good internet connection, wouldn't you ping your own server? Believe me, I'm on a 56K modem, there ain't any more than 500 bytes going down that wire. If Microsoft can find 500 bytes of critical data and send them, good luck to them. Maybe that's why the Indexing Service went insane on me a few weeks ago? Maybe it's searching for my credit cards details! :omg::omg::omg: :rolleyes: Paul

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                  • M Matt Newman

                    My neighbor is a linux user, now I have nothing against linux users or linux. However when there only reason for linux being better is "Windows sucks" or "Microsoft sucks" it gets really damn annoying. He doesn't really have anything to back up his "Microsoft sucks" argument. I also find it ironic that he seems to have an "infinite knowledge" (or so he thinks) of how Windows works even though he hasn't by his own admission used Windows since the early days of Windows 98. He also tried convincing me that the XP EULA said that gave Microsoft unrestricted access to your computer even on the hardware level :wtf:, which by the way isn't in there. In fact I quoted several sections of the EULA and he didn't recognize any of it and even accuesed me of lying about it. Does anyone else have to put up with this type of people on a regular basis? -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
                    "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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                    They think because they use something vaguely rarish they are elite. Yes, it takes some skill, but taking the path of maximum resistance just for the sake of it doesn't make you part of an elite, it just makes you silly(IMHO). I use Linux for security, but for dev, MS rocks :-D


                    Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
                    It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!

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                    • M Megan Forbes

                      They think because they use something vaguely rarish they are elite. Yes, it takes some skill, but taking the path of maximum resistance just for the sake of it doesn't make you part of an elite, it just makes you silly(IMHO). I use Linux for security, but for dev, MS rocks :-D


                      Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
                      It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!

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                      Kannan Kalyanaraman
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                      What makes linux more secure.....is it rock-solid...does it not require patches (ok as many as windows...) ...or is it simple tough to hack.. Kannan

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                        What makes linux more secure.....is it rock-solid...does it not require patches (ok as many as windows...) ...or is it simple tough to hack.. Kannan

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                        Linux is more secure because there's less hacking tools and viruses out there for it. A quality hacker could get past that anyway but a quality hacker is less likely to do any serious harm when they get there too. It's also more secure because it's more simple. The less there is to something, the less likely it is that it'll break. Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02

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                          What makes linux more secure.....is it rock-solid...does it not require patches (ok as many as windows...) ...or is it simple tough to hack.. Kannan

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                          Megan Forbes
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                          Sorry, I didn't mean like that. We use it for intrusion detection, and also to try and hack our own systems (if we can hack them, so can the script kiddies). Most crackers have that elitist attitude and use Unix systems for their fun, so it's best to use the same tools they have available to test our systems from the outside. :cool:


                          Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
                          It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!

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                            Linux is more secure because there's less hacking tools and viruses out there for it. A quality hacker could get past that anyway but a quality hacker is less likely to do any serious harm when they get there too. It's also more secure because it's more simple. The less there is to something, the less likely it is that it'll break. Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02

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                            That virus thing is soooo true - seems like all the angry young dudes (dudettes) out there have some vendetta against MS :laugh:


                            Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
                            It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!

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                            • D Daniel Ferguson

                              Anyone who's a zealot for anything has something to learn. Linus is not god, and neither is Bill. In fact there is no god, no black and white -- only shades of grey.

                              as long as I live it will be fine / there's nothing what I can do /
                              the world will die and so do I / so why should I take care
                              'Take Care' Funker Vogt

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                              so you admit that theres "grey" :)


                              "When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."

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                              • P Paul Riley

                                Linux is more secure because there's less hacking tools and viruses out there for it. A quality hacker could get past that anyway but a quality hacker is less likely to do any serious harm when they get there too. It's also more secure because it's more simple. The less there is to something, the less likely it is that it'll break. Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02

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                                something is not more secure because there are less tools for attacking it, just lucky. also more simple does not always mean more secure... :-D


                                "When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."

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                                • C ColinDavies

                                  Linux has got it's place. "I'll let you work out where" :-) But yeah, I find some of them to be like religious fanatics, who are blind to all but their own belief. Regardz Colin J Davies

                                  Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                                  Colin Davies wrote: Linux has got it's place. I agree... Colin Davies wrote: But yeah, I find some of them to be like religious fanatics, who are blind to all but their own belief. ... but this is what bothers me -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
                                  "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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                                  • P Paul Riley

                                    I know people who work with Windows, use Windows at home, know Windows intimately and still the conspiracy theories go on (and on, and on, and on). My personal favourite: "But Windows XP sends a hidden signal to Microsoft's server every time you do a search on your own harddrive. Pretty disturbing huh?" Well, no, not really. If you wanted to test for a good internet connection, wouldn't you ping your own server? Believe me, I'm on a 56K modem, there ain't any more than 500 bytes going down that wire. If Microsoft can find 500 bytes of critical data and send them, good luck to them. Maybe that's why the Indexing Service went insane on me a few weeks ago? Maybe it's searching for my credit cards details! :omg::omg::omg: :rolleyes: Paul

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                                    I know people tell me that and I religiously watch all outgoing and incoming traffic very closely on my computer and the only time it sends anything off I have approved it. Paul Riley wrote: Maybe that's why the Indexing Service went insane on me a few weeks ago? Maybe it's searching for my credit cards details! Most people don't realize how much Indexing Service can compress life threatining personal details and CC numbers. I heard all the way to 500 bytes :) -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
                                    "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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                                    • P Philip Fitzsimons

                                      something is not more secure because there are less tools for attacking it, just lucky. also more simple does not always mean more secure... :-D


                                      "When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."

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                                      Philip Fitzsimons wrote: something is not more secure because there are less tools for attacking it, just lucky. I disagree. If less people can break into one brand of car over another, the first brand is considered more secure. Fact remains that a locksmith can get into pretty much any car. Whether this is due to some bizarre desire on the part of a group of jealous idiots to prove one type of car vulnerable or because it was designed that way is irrelevant. Philip Fitzsimons wrote: also more simple does not always mean more secure That's true, but it's often the case and I think you'll find it in this case in particular. How many security patches for Windows are because of periferal (often unnecessary) parts of the OS? Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02

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                                      • K Kannan Kalyanaraman

                                        What makes linux more secure.....is it rock-solid...does it not require patches (ok as many as windows...) ...or is it simple tough to hack.. Kannan

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                                        Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: does it not require patches It, in my experience, still needs patches but because of the sheer number of people working on linux the turn around rate is a lot higher than any company could handle. Also they definitely try to keep updates low key so they don't catch the eyes of the windows users they just bashed the day before on /. for the latest MS update :) -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
                                        "You can't seriously believe that you could get away with suing someone over quoting text from a message posted in a public forum, can you?" - John Simmons

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                                          Sellout! You'll never reach Linux heaven now. :-D -- Please state the nature of your medical emergency.

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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Linux heaven Nerdvana?:) Word of the day: Rotundacrat
                                          Extra Credit will be awarded for: Quasimobo...

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